File format passed to external editor

I could do with some help understanding how LR4 passes files to an external editor. My files in LR are RAW, and I am using both Photomatix and the Nik SW bundle. In the "External Editing Preferences" dialogue I have set the file format to TIFF.
To access Photomatix I go through the File>Export menu and it seems that TIFFs get exported. This makes sense to get key LR edits (esp camera profiles etc) burnt into the images that Photmatix sees, and to retain 16b resolution in the exported file. Is this correct? I can separately define the output (i.e. from Photomatix) file format in Photomatix itself.
Most of the Nik editors though are accessed through the Photo->Edit In menu though, and this pops up an additional "Specify Copy file" dialogue. I only get the option to pass the "Original with LR edits" as I'm working in RAW, this makes sense as above. I get an additional option to enter a copy file format of TIFF,PSD or JPEG though. Does this specify (a) the exported file format, (b) the file format to reimport, or (c) both? If (a) or (c) and I select (say) JPEG, it must be overriding the settings I have in "External Editing Preferences"..?
Many thanks, Steve

My problem is not the master file name but the random names. Lets say the original file name is _DSC0058 and I have done a rename of this project and the new file name is Jeanne 05. When I send it to CS3 it comes back Jeanne 006.
I am currently rebuilding my library because this problem is not happening in all projects.
Jeffrey

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ericnepean wrote:
Adobe - it just works!
Uh Yeah: http://forums.adobe.com/community/lightroom
photobydc,
Everyone understands your frustration, but we get frustrated when someone throws up their hands and blames the program for a problem that's unique to them.
When you had a problem in the darkroom, did you blame it on Omega or Bessler or Agfa or Kodak? That refrain just makes the contributors reluctant to spend time typing in an effort to help. If your problem were common, this board would be lit up with complaints about it.
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Message was edited by: rtd2870

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Brainbug wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I tried to set the right
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fl2 wrote:
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1. You are a bit confused and I wonder how you can determine a file is a PSD or a TIF by looking at it? Not all print drivers can recognize PSD's, but can recognize TIF ( this means almost all output devices can interpret TIF's no problem ). That said, PSD's can manage layers better than TIF's which add to file size each layer you include in the TIF.
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3. Yes, see number 2 above. There's no such thing as automatic flattening of TIFFs. Again, this all depends on the printer and whether or not it can print while retaining original layers. Some do, some don't. Most of the time, I edit in PSD with layers intact. Then, when I prep the file for printing, I will save a copy as a flattened TIFF so the file streamlines through the RIP and Print process.
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External editor file format

I would like to edit photos within Photoshop CS6 from time to time, the originals are all DNG format.
In the export dialog box within prefernces I have two queries:
1. Which file format is best to maintain quality of the photo?
2. What should teh DPI be set to?
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Petre H

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you are asking about the export pane in the Aperture Preferences panel, right?
What you select there, should depend on the resolution and quality of images you want to export.
All export format are lossless, pick TIFF (8 bit) if you have jepegs with good quality or TIFF (16 bit) if you have high resolution raw images, but this will result in very large files.
If you use Photoshop for graphics composition and want to returen layers to Aperture, use the PSD formats.
The dpi will not really change the quality of the exported image, but will be used when printing the image to compute the dimensions of the image on the paper. Higher dpi will result in a smaller image on the paper, since more pixels will be needed to print one inch of the image.
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I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

People who have Photoshop, but don't have Lightroom, need ACR so that they can use Raw files. Without ACR they could do nothing with those (they may also like having ACR so that they can work on other kinds of image using the same kinds of adjustments and techniques, as are used with Raw files).
People who have Lightroom, can get access to Raw files regardless whether ACR is present or not. They can use Lightroom on other kinds of image also, using the same methods. LR can pass images directly into Photoshop without passing via ACR (or else does so transparently, which amounts to substantially the same thing).
ACR does not, strictly speaking, even need to be installed for this external editing to happen. In fact, not even PS needs to be - since a different image editor can be used instead, while still retaining the Adobe Raw conversion etc.
Lightroom "subcontracts out" specialised external tasks, in this workflow, but is still your "main contractor": the image is otherwise located, viewed, managed, adjusted/presented and output entirely using LR.
So IMO we can divide image processing into:
operations that involve pixels and layers and layer masks and adjustment layers etc (of the kind done inside Photoshop)
operations that involve parametric edits (of the kind done in ACR where you are not using a Lightroom based workflow; otherwise, done inside Lightroom)
When PS is called in, that's because those tasks are impossible or unsuitable to do in Lightroom. But those tasks can't be done in ACR either - by definition, since LR and ACR have exactly the same image processing "feature set".
Lightroom is irrelevant to the Bridge + ACR + PS workflow. This workflow requires both your PS and your ACR to be current enough, to support your Raw format etc.
ACR and Bridge are irrelevant to the LR + (image editor) workflow. It is in this case, only LR which needs to be current enough to support your Raw format etc.
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When I select several photos in Aperture (which are parts of a panorama serie for example) and click choose to open them in the external editor (here Adobe Photoshop CS6), only a random subset are opened.
Aperture warns me if I want the (for example) 14 pictures to be exported for edition, I confirm, but I end up with only (for example) 9 photos in Photoshop. The missing ones can be any photos (not necessarily the first or latest).
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