File permissions -deletions ( Help Big Daddy Paycheck)

I've been looking through the manuals and have been trying to find a way to change the permissions on a file so that it can only be deleted from the server by the administrator.
I have a set of document templates that we use and they have been mysteriously disappearing. I have tried both the "Owner" permissions as the creator or as the administrator.
I have had been able to make sure the documents cannot be changed, but anyone can still delete them.
Is there something I can Do?
g4 Mac OS X (10.3.9) Server is Xserve G5 10.1.9

So you have separate "user" accounts as compared to "administrator" accounts, correct?
Standard 755 permissions should work if you have this separation... as it prohibits write by non-admin users, so long as they're not part of the admin group.
You could also set the sticky bit on the directory, which would prohibit people from deleting files they didn't create. Do a 'man chmod' to see more details on how to set the sticky bit.

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