File Sharing or AppleTalk

So I'm a little confused now with the way things are in Sys Prefs. If under Sharing, File Sharing is enabled, should AppleTalk (which is under Network not Sharing) be enabled also or not? Thanks. I did a search in 10.5 and couldn't find exactly what I was looking for.

Okay, I found these.....
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106461
and
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30822
Although it talks about each, it still doesn't seem clear to me. I'm assuming it doesn't to a lot of people being people are reading this but not commenting. It seems to simply be different protocols, but then why isn't AppleTalk in the sharing section? Should both be used together? Perhaps Apple could make this clear this up somehow in the documentation.

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File sharing network problem

I have an Airport Extreme (G) base station with an Airport Express acting as a WDS extender. I have two client Macs - a 24" iMac (Intel Dual Core) and an iBook (G4). There are a variety of other clients as well - 2 wireless-G tivos, a Win XP laptop, a wireless ethernet bridge serving a slingbox.
My problem is with the two Macs. Using Network browser, from the iMac, I can connect to the iBook just fine via AFP. However, when I try to connect to the iMac from the iBook, it tries to use FTP, then I get the error "unable to find alias." Both macs have AppleTalk enabled and both have File Sharing enabled.
I suspect that the root of the problem may be from the fact that the iMac was set up by copying everything over from an older iMac FP (I've learned my lesson and will not use the Migration Assistant again!). But, I can't figure out how to correct this.
Thanks!

Hi franki, I'm glad those web sites were useful.
Unfortunately I can't advise about your remaining problem because I don't have a suitable Windows computer to try things out on. Maybe somebody else here can.
I'd suggest you give a few more details about exactly how far you get and at which point things get stuck.
Also, if nobody on this board can help then you could try another one. There are several boards here related to networking, of which the Tiger Forums Getting Online & Networking one seems to be the most lively.
MacBook (OS 10.4.8) iMac G4 (OS 10.3.9)

Can I convert a PB 1400's PC card port to a ethernet port for file sharing?

My plan here is to connect a PowerBook 1400cs/133 running OS 8.6 to an iBook G4 running OS 10.4 by means of an ethernet crossover cable, and move my important files (ClarisWorks 4.0 docs and games mostly) to the new computer. But the PB 1400 has no ethernet port! Is there something I can put in the PC card slot that will convert it to an ethernet port?

jpl, Denis, here's my setup:
The PB 1400 is connected to the iBook via a Farallon EtherWave/EtherMac Ethernet PC Card (with a blue arrow, PCMCIA 2.1, PC Card Standard). I have the Farallon software installed and the Farallon extension turned on. A "Farallon EN Card" icon appears on my desktop, and the little light on the cord where it connects to the card is green. I used to use the card to connect to the internet back in the day when the 1400 was my primary computer, so I'm confident it works.
The PB 1400 (name: Ben's PowerBook 1400): AppleTalk, configured to connect via alternate ethernet. File sharing, on. TCP/IP, connected via AppleTalk (Mac IP). I've tried configuring that both "Using Mac IP server" and manually by entering in the iBook's IP address and router address (the 1400 is not connected to the internet). As far as I can tell, Users/Groups is configured; it has "Ben" as "user" and "Guest" as "guest user."
The iBook (name: Ben's iBook G4) is set up basically identical to the way jpl describes his iMac above. Like his, the services panel of sharing on the iBook says "Other Macintosh users can access your computer at afp://x.x.x.6." I also manually entered the iBook's IP address, subnet mask, and router. Under my shared location, under Built-in Ethernet, TCP/IP is configured and AppleTalk is active.
Still, file sharing is not working. When I try to access the iBook from the 1400, I go to the Chooser, click the AppleShare icon, and "Ben's iBook G4" in the file server window. When I select it and click OK, I go to a screen to enter my name (Ben) and password as a registered user. I'm not sure if the password it wants is the file sharing password I set up for the 1400 or the administrator password for the iBook, so I tried them both. I also tried connecting as a "guest." In all cases, after I hit the "Connect" button, I got the error message "The connection to this server has been unexpectedly broken."
No luck going the opposite direction either. When I go to Go: Connect to Server: Browse on the iBook, "Ben's PowerBook 1400" appears in the Network area, but when I select it and hit the "connect" button, I get this error message: "The file server uses an incompatible version of the AFP protocol. You cannot connect to it."

Mac OS 9 AFP file sharing volume not visible under Mac OS 10.5

An old blue-white PowerMac G3 running Mac OS 9.2.2 with file sharing on is not visible on the network for a MacBook Pro running Mac OS X 10.5.5. – However, a PowerBook G4 with Mac OS X 10.4.11 perfectly shows the G3.
Connecting to the G3 works on the new MacBook Pro with OS X 10.5 if I use the server's IP-address (afp://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) but does not work if I use the server's name (afp://<servername>).
All other shares on the network are visible for both the MacBook Pro running OS X 10.5 and the PowerBook G4 running OS X 10.4.
Why does the MacBook Pro with Mac OS X 10.5.5 not show the G3?
Why can't I connect to the G3 using its AFP name?

I think this is because there is no AppleTalk on Leopard.
Ah, I stand corrected........
Go to SystemPreferences > Network
Select your connection in the left column. Advanced > AppleTalk
Enable AppleTalk for your connection.
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File sharing in network

I have just recently started to use Leopard on my new Macbook.
My problem now is to get file sharing with my Imac with Tiger to function.
I can see the shared folders from Imac on my Macbook but nothing else.
How do I get for example the folder Documents from my Imac to show up on my Macbook. And is it also possible to get a connected USB-disk from my Imac to show up on my Macbook.
I managed that before with AppleTalk, but I understand that file sharing in Leopard don't use AppleTalk as the preferred method to connect.
I have John as adminstrator account on my Imac and John J. as administrator on my Macbook. What settings are then needed to get the folder Documents from the Account John on Imac visible when you are logged on as John J. on the Macbook.

Hi Prashanth,
There are multiple ways to move content from fileShares to SharePoint.
Step 1: Create the SharePoint Information Architecture - create a site collection preferably chose a document center template, create document libraries and folders as per the network folder structure in your organization.
Step 2: Map your File Share as Network drive in your client machine, and same way map your SharePoint website document library as network drive too. Drag and drop files.
Note there are 2 issues for this approach,
1) your document metadata will be lost, the last modified by will change to the account with which you have logged into SharePoint while copying, and the last modified time will be changed.
2) Its a tedious manual approach if you have lots of files.
Now for retaining the metadata you will need to depend upon a 3rd party tools ( or this codeplex solution: http://f2sp.codeplex.com/ (I havent verified that this works with Sp 2013 or not).
Using 3rd party tools has the advantage of retaining metadata and any issues with file naming conventions will also be taken care of most of the prominent tools which otherwise needs to be taken care by administrator manually. - Note SharePoint has file
naming conventions - https://support2.microsoft.com/kb/905231?wa=wsignin1.0.
Also In order to reduce the effort in second step you can also create content organizer rules and map your drop off library as the drag and drop location.
finally do read this awesome blog post by Sean Earp and Andre Kieft before starting of with the project. http://blogs.technet.com/b/ptsblog/archive/2013/11/04/migrating-file-shares-to-sharepoint-online.aspx
Hope that helps.

Personal File Sharing: Lost Connection

I'm trying to use my new miniStack external HD attached via Firewire to my Mac mini as a pseudo network drive. In other words, I want that drive available to my mini and my two iBooks. If I can get that working, I'd like it available to my XP box as well.
I have wireless internet via an Airport Express and cable modem throughout the house. All four computers are attached via wireless cards.
I've turned on personal file sharing on the mini using my administrator log in. I've also activated AppleTalk via the Airport settings in the Network preference settings.
I've also activated AppleTalk on my iBook and turned on personal file sharing.
All my Macs are running the latest version of OS X (10.4.7).
I restarted both machines after making the above setting selections. I then used the Finder on my iBook to search for the mini. I clicked on the Network icon, found 'servers', 'library', and the following folders: "home" which has my XP box readily accessible, "My Network" and "Workgroup". Each of these last has an icon for my mini.
When I double click on my Mini, it shows me all volumes on it, including my miniStack. I select one to connect to and get a beach ball followed by an error message saying "Server Connection Interupted: miniStack" and a single button marked 'disconnect'.
After I press the disconnect button (my only choice) I notice that personal file sharing on my mini is now turned off.
This exact same thing happens when I try to access the native internal HD on my mini so it isn't just the external stack that's the problem.
I've searched high and low through the fora here and can't find anything addressing this.
Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks and take care,
Jeff

After much trial and error, I finally resorted to doing a Archive and Install on my mini. After doing so, everything works great. I still have no clue what the problem was but I now have no interest in finding out since it's working great.
Of note, the lost connection problem was unidirectional. I had no difficulties logging onto and accessing anything on either of my iBooks from my mini. Just the other way around.
Take care,
Jeff

File Sharing between Snow Leopard MacBook Pro and Mac OS 8.6 Powerbook 1400

well ok, for some this might sound ridicule. Why should I still be using a 13 year old PowerBook. Let me tell you, this is writing/typing heaven, Zen-like; no distractions at all, no twitter, no internet (although possible), no emails just pure you and your text and if you spin down the HDD, absolute silence. as said before pure Zen writing heaven. and on top of that you're typing on the best keyboard ever on a laptop.
As you might see I love my vintage masterpiece of a laptop and use it on a regular basis. Just one Problem.
Since I Installed Snow Leopard on my MacBook Pro 17" I just haven't been able to establish a connection between the two machines.
I have to admit, I'm not that versed with OS 8.6 but with 10.5 I had absolutely no problems accessing the shared folders on my MacBook Pro and vice versa.
My first thought was to activate Appletalk on the ethernet on my Macbook, which I failed to find anywhere. The Apple Discussions Forums revealed that Appletalk has been dropped with the introduction of Snow Leopard but all the entries where regarding printing issues with shared printers, I didn't find anything about actual file sharing and thus did not get any clues how to share files between my two machines.
My PowerBook 1400cs/166 runs on 8.6 and I use a Global Village Platinum PCMCIA card (modem and Ethernet combi card). this setup worked perfectly with 10.5 but I have not been able to make establish a connection since running 10.6 on my MBP.
I am really desperate since I heavily depend on being able to exchange files between those two machines through an ethernet connection.
So I kindly ask anyone who might be able to help me to please consider posting any solutions or at least ideas which could help me with my problem. I really would greatly appreciate any effort whatsoever.
Thank you very much for your time.
EDIT:
What I forgot to mention: strangely enough, when I enable Internet Sharing on my MacBook Pro (through Airport) to Ethernet, my PowerBook 1400 can connect to the internet without any problems.
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First of all let me thank you very much. It actually works (partially).
There seems to be a problem though. While I can connect perfectly from my MBP 10.6 to my PowerBook 1400, the other way round doesn't work.
My MBP does not show up in the Network browser of OS 8.6 but I could life with that.
The problem is that if I try to connect to my MBP from my PB1400 by entering the IP directly a alert message appears reading that the "User Authentication Method required by this server can't be found, please check the AppleShare folder in the Extensions folder and try again".
Do you have any clues what I'm doing wrong or where the problem may lie?
PS.
Even if you may not be able to further help me with this problem, I ow you a great deal of gratitude and am very thankful for your help so far. At least I can exchange files between the two machines and that's what I needed in the first place.

File sharing with iMAC and OS 9.1 Power PC back-to-back not working

Here's the setup. Any ideas on why it's not working?
Internet ports connected with crossover cable.
OS 9.1: File sharing ON, Program linking OFF, Document file selected for sharing
OS 10.4.8: Personal file sharing ON, Built in Ethernet both computers, GO connect to server-Power PC IP address entered.
Response after a timeout: "Connection failed. Check server name or IP address".
17 iMAC Intel core duo Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Still not working. Here’s what I tried.
OS 9.1: Configured TCP/IP in Control Panel for connection via Ethernet slot. Noted IP address from last DHCP connection. Turned on File Sharing in Control Panel. Selected file for sharing. In Chooser clicked Appleshare icon and Server IP Address button. (Note: Appletalk button active). Entered iMAC IP address in Server Address screen and clicked Connect.
No connection made.
Then opened Appletalk in Control Panel and noted it is connected via same Ethernet slot as TCP/IP. Therefore returned to Chooser, clicked Appleshare icon and clicked Appletalk inactive button. Upon turning File Sharing on in Control Panel, get warning message, “Appletalk must be turned on to use file sharing.”
As before, iMAC connect to OS 9.1 didn’t work either.
Artnum=302784 indicates Appletalk cannot be used, TCP/IP must. Apparently there is no way to disable Appletalk in OS 9.1 maching when file sharing.
It appears I’ve hit a dead end in trying to get operational file sharing between OS 10.8.4 and OS 9.1 machines.
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MBP to G5 file sharing?

i know there is a way to get files from my MBP to my G5 via a local network, i'm just having trouble getting that working, so that i can just get these files from my MBP to my G5...
can someone please help me out?
sorry, i'm just not well versed in networking details and i keep forgetting, cause i don't use it often...
any help is greatly appreciated...

i read through those pages and did what it said, but i still can't seem to connect from one to the other...
i selected where i'm connecting through [airport on the MBP **should MBP be ethernet?** & ethernet on G5], turned on my file sharing, appletalk and it seems like they don't see each other when i go to the network icon in the finder window...
i already moved the files [through external drive], but this is something i've always wanted to make sure i know how to do, so i don't have to keep messing around with settings and i can easily turn it off, on when i want to transfer files between computers...
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File Sharing between OS X 10.4.8 and OS 9.2.2

I have seen a couple of postings on this topic and have tried to do what is suggested without success. I'm setting up a new Mac Pro and need to pull files from an ancient G4. I have the G4 set up for network sharing. I have set up a network called "Home". I have the Built-in Ethernet 2 set such that "Make Apple Talk Active" is checked. When I go to the Finder mode Go:Connect to Server, I type in
afp://140.50.4.24
and smash the Connect button.
this is the IP of the G4
But the Mac Pro can't find it. Any tips on what I'm doing wrong? Please help....
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Did you try it from the G4/OS9.2.2 machine from Chooser>AppleShare>IP of the MacPro?
"AppleTalk issues
Mac OS 8, Mac OS 9, and Mac OS X 10.1 to 10.3.9 support file sharing (AFP) connections over AppleTalk. However, Mac OS X versions 10.0 to 10.0.4 and 10.4 and later can only connect to AppleShare over TCP/IP.
Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X can both connect over TCP/IP without AppleTalk.
Mac OS X 10.4 and later don't support Personal File Sharing (or other AFP) over Appletalk, though by initiating the connection from the opposite direction you could still achieve an IP connection from a Mac OS 8 computer to a sharing Mac OS X computer. The Network preference pane in Mac OS X 10.4 and later still offers the AppleTalk checkbox, but it is for browsing AppleTalk-advertised resources and zones. The subsequent connection must be over TCP/IP."

File sharing between 10.4.3 and 9.1

Because Tiger no longer supports connecting to AFP over the AppleTalk protocol, Apple suggests enabling the TCP/IP protocol on the File Sharing Control Panel in System 9.1.
This doesn't work for me. Since upgrading to Tiger on the 17" PowerBook, connecting to 9.1 on a B/W G3 no longer works. The old Pismo, on the same network, but running Panther, still connects, and to both machines.
Two other customers' networks have the same problem.
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I was having the same problem with the G5 not seeing my OS9 Macs. In Mac OS 9.2.2 you need to access the Control Panel, File Sharing, and in there is a check box called "Enable File Sharing Clients to Connect over TCP/IP". System 8 does not offer this.
If the box is selected but grayed out you are missing some needed extensions. Check your Extensions Manager and make sure that these three extensions are turned on:
File Sharing Extension
File Sharing Library
ShareWay IP Personal Bgnd
Then you might also use Get Info for the OS9 hard drives and make sure that sharing is selected for those hard drives you want to see over the network.
It now works for me, I was missing "ShareWay IP Personal Bgnd" but once enabled everything worked.
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Need help file sharing with a powermac G4 and ibook

I need to transfer files from my G4 to an ibook. I am using ethernet slot B on the G4 and the ibook has an airport card. I also have a router. Does anyone have an easy way to do this? I want to set up a connection between these two computers without using the internet. Appletalk is active on the g4, and file sharing is on yet the activity monitor does not show the ibook as a connected user. I tried to find the G4 on the ibook by connecting to server but it does not recognize the g4 when I either type the name of the computer or browse the network. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Would a CD writer for the G4 be a better option?
Thank you.

I tried to find the G4 on the ibook by connecting to server but it does not recognize the g4 when I either type the name of the computer or browse the network.
If you are running Mac OS before 9 and trying to connect to Mac OS after 10.3, you will not be able to do it without additional software.
If you connect the iBook to the router with an Ethernet cable, you may be more successful, as some routers do not pass AppleTalk packets from wireless to wired.
The FireWire approach will also work, and yes, it mounts the other computer's drives on your desktop.

Cannot use File Sharing Between Two Macs Running tiger

I have a G3 Desktop and a Platinum powerbook connected wirelessly using an Airport Extreme. I used to be able to easily share files between the two Macs but since upgrading to Tiger on both machines and loading the latest software upgrades and Airport firmware, running Disk Utility, setting preferences to turn on AppleTalk and file sharing, file sharing does not work. It worked one time after downloading the new Airport firmware but now I cannot find the other computer on the Airport network. There are only two computers on the Airport network. Does anybody have any ideas?

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Here's my situation. I have two Macs... a MacBook Pro and a Mac Pro, both running OS X 10.5.7. They connect to the Internet wirelessly through an Apple Airport Extreme (N) Base Station. But I also have them connected to each other via Ethernet. AppleTalk is turned on, only on the Ethernet connection.
My problem is that I want to curtail all computer-to-computer communications (file sharing, Airfoil speaker connections for playing iTunes, Chronosync file synchronization, etc.) so that they ONLY occur over the Ethernet connection.
I have both computers setup so that "Ethernet" is first in the sort order for network connections. File Sharing is turned on on both computers.
But... I can tell that, sometimes, the connection between the two computers is occurring over the WiFi instead of through the Ethernet (for instance, I disconnect from the WiFi on the Mac Pro and the music playing through AirFoil stops... or Chronosync can't connect to the laptop to perform a sync).
Am I just up a creek? Or is there some way to ensure that the two computers only "see" each other over the Ethernet connection and not over the shared WiFi? I know that, with "N" speeds on the Airport Extreme (and with N-capable cards in both computers), the "speed" thing isn't that big of a deal. But when running a Chronosync synchronization where several GBs of shared files are being synched, it still puts a crimp in Internet browsing speeds, etc., if that data is going over the WiFi instead of the Ethernet.
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Hi,
I'm not certain of this but whilst you're waiting for a more informed response here goes. OSX uses something called the "default route" which prefers the one with internet access over the order of networks you set in preferences, therefore, the default route isn't necessarily the fastest route. Without editing configuration files or using hardware or software to hard code routing routines, you'll need to switch off Airport and hence the default route will become the network created automatically by your ethernet connected Macs. Apple Talk isn't necessary.
This thread may be of interest to you:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2039622&tstart=0

Extreme blocks out ethernet computers for file sharing.

Gentlefolks,
I am very hopeful I can get a solution suggestion for my issue. I don't know networks very well.
I get on the internet via DSL modem to a 2wire <something> that runs into a internet hub (switch it seems to be called now!) I have three Macs that are hard wired to the hub with the 2wire <something> providing addresses using DHCP. I have an Airport Extreme base station (the dome shaped guy) running connected to the hub using the LAN, not the WAN, connection on the base station.
I use a Macbook Pro on the network fine. When I take it to wireless, it can get to the internet just fine. I can even print using Appletalk. BUT,,, I can not see any of the other computers that are on the ethernet for file sharing. If I just connect up my ethernet on the Macbook then everything works just fine. Using the wireless shuts out the other machines.
Any suggestions?

A switch may or may not have an uplink port. IMHO uplink ports are outdated and not really useful since most devices have auto-sensing Ethernet ports.
A hub routes all traffic to all ports. This means that devices see a lot of traffic which is not for their use. Think of it like the old telephone party lines where you could hear anyones conversation because it was broadcast to everyone.
A switch is an intelligent hub. It knows what devices are connected to what port and routes traffic destined for a device ONLY on the port to which that device is connected. Therefore a switch reduces the traffic on any given port. Think of it like today's (private) telephone lines where you only get the calls which are for you and you can't hear calls made to your neighbor.

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