File Size Improvements in CS4?

I have found someinteresting things in CS4. Doing the same project as last year my total file size seemed much smaller. I opened my catalog from last year. 32 pages/tons of images 1.5 gigs. I saved that file as another name which trims size. The sie went from 1.5 gigs to 1 gig. I then export the file as inx and reopen and save as another file. Now down to 100,000K. Basically a file that is 95% smaller than the original. That is a huge improvent for me. Those on CS3 should try this and see if it helps. I know save as another file and the inx trick does trim file size. As you work on a project you should do this for performance reasons. I am doing this on windows. Not sure if this works on mac.
rob

The 1.5 gig file was a cs3 file from last year all linked images none embedded. Other similar projects ran approx 1 gig or slightly less. The CS4 file this year stared out much smaller and I think the entire file is 100,000K approx.
Rob

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jenryp wrote:
Hi!
I'm having troubles with the size of my files in Illustrator CS4, My files always ends with sizes near 100mb!
I made some tests:
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Embedd the JPG, save: 15mb
I0m using the save with compression option.
If I uncheck the compatibility with PDF, then my file goes from 15mb to 8mb, but it's too big anyway, my image is only 2,5mb!
I don't know, I think I'm doing something wrong or illustrator is the most inefficient program that I ever use.
Why if my file without the image is only 1mb, and my JPG only 2,5mb, when I put them together the .AI goes to 15mb???? that's 500% the real size of my files!
Please I need help with this.
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I just tried it myself and sure enough a 4.1 jpeg place in AI makes the file 13.1 MB the uncompressed image is 15.8 MB
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