File Sizes from Tiger to Leopard?

I am migrating from Tiger on a G4 to Leo on a Mac Pro. When I copy files, the size of the tiger folder is larger than the leo folder. They both have the same # of files. Does anyone know why this may be?
Maybe different HD formats?

Files that are the same size will take up more space on a larger drive that uses the same format due to inefficiencies in the filesystem; specifically, the disk is divided into very small blocks, and if only part of a block is used up, all of it is counted as used. The blocks are larger on larger disks because the filesystem limits the absolute number of them.
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    Macs newer than August 28, 2009 can't run Leopard, and require a minimum of Snow Leopard.
    Dual booting Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X 10.5, check this tip:https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-1757
    Classic is not compatible with 10.5.  10.4.11 on a PowerPC Mac or earlier is needed for Classic.
    Mac OS X 10.5 is the earliest version of Mac OS X that will run iTunes 10.  This is necessary for numerous i-Devices (iPad, iPhone, and iPods).  To find out which require it, see this article
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_version_history
    Should you require only iTunes 9, and are running a minimum of 10.4, backup your data at least twice, check in Apple menu -> About This Mac if you have a G3, G4, G5 (which is PowerPC), or Intel Core (which is Intel) make sure you are running 10.4.11 PowerPC or 10.4.11 Intel (depending on the aforementioned processors), and download iTunes 9.2.1.  The only reason you should upgrade to 10.5 is if some other software is required.
    Boot Camp is only available on Intel Macs with 10.5 and higher.
    Time Machine backup software first appeared in 10.5
    You have several options of installation which are explained here: https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2209
    All of which I recommend you backup your data at least twice before upgrading, and have sufficient disk space to install, and all your third party applications and drivers are known to be Leopard compatible, and after backing up your data you dismount and disconnect all but Apple keyboard and mouse and if there is an external display, that too. And just before you install repair permissions.
    If any of the above terms confuse you, ask on the Discussions board what they mean, and one of the people who knows will gladly assist you.
    You must use the installer disc that looks like *, and does not say Upgrade, Dropin, or OEM, if you choose to upgrade to Leopard.
    Message was edited by: a brody

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