File sort order

I've imported a number of old scanned family photos into Lightroom 2.7 running on Windows XP. There is no metadata except the scan date, so I sort by file name.
The naming convention I use is yyyy-mm-dd.Scan.<unique number>.jpg. If I don't know the precise date then I substitute 'x' for the unknown day, month, or year, so I have a lot of file names that start, for example, with 196x-xx-xx.Scan... because I know the photo was taken in the 60's, but that's all I know.
The problem? Lightroom sorts 198x-xx-xx before 1915-xx-xx. I know it's a Lightroom sorting algorithm because I had the same problem with Windows Explorer and was able to fix it with a registry hack.
Is there any way to turn off this feature in Lightroom?

You're welcome.
Before removing any photos from LR, just be sure to save the metadata to file (Ctrl+S) so you won't loose any work. It sounds like you already have the catalog preference set to automatically write the xmp to your files, but that's not infallible. Better yet, you should explore the renaming tools within LR (hit F2 in the library) and use an outside utility only if necessary. Same goes for moving files & folders around.
You are correct about having a sensible file naming schema, but if you scan enough old stuff, you will eventually hit upon some exceptions, no matter the chosen scheme for file or folder names. To that end, I also include the dates, and comments about dates, in the IPTC Description (caption) of each photo. This field is fully searchable and is another way to keep track of everything. The IPTC Headline field can be useful as well.
Keywords are also metadata, they are stored within each tiff or jpg file with the rest of the metadata. Certainly make heavy use of KWs to identify people and unique, historical events or places. The IPTC County/State/City/Location fields should be used as much as well.
Ultimately, with enough metadata in the keyword & IPTC fields, you will be able to search, sort, manipulate, and present the images anyway you like, from any period of time, including those that are hard to categorize. Hence my comment about filenames being of lesser importance, over time, as you get more and more information into the archive.
Good luck - there is really no right or wrong way, and you will probably change course a couple of times and redo a few things to suit your needs. I've been working the old family history stuff for a number of years now, and it's endless!
Gary

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