Files deleted over network

Hi, some of users over the network accidentally deleted a folder from XServe, and he asked if it can be recovered, when someone deletes a file/folder over network OSX reports that "the item will be deleted immediately", is this true? it wont going to be stored in some "Network Trash Folder"? or ".Trashes"? or "Temporary Items"??
And if it really wont be recovered, is there a way to prevent this in the future? like to tell OSX Server to put all the files/folders deleted over network to be stored in a special folder for a certain time to prevent loosing important files accidentally or by other users??
Thanks

Bertrand> This seems a nice idea, but its not exactly what i need, people still need to delete files from the server, but sometimes they delete important things and im looking for a way that the OSX Server keeps the remotely deleted file for a certain amount of time so it can be restored if needed. many times users accidentally delete files from the server and hit the "OK" button without noticing they just delete an important file from the server and not from there HD, for example, in Apple Share IP on OS9 if you delete a file over the network it would keep it in the user Trash and he empties it, and if he for example restarted his computer, the file on the ASIP would be stored in "Network Trash Folder".. why the mighty OSX Server doest have this great ability?!
Steve> Tapes is great for backup and archiving, but its not what i am really looking for, it has the same problem i have with Time Machine, time machine wont backup a file copied to the server and accidentally deleted within an hour, so Tapes, wont backup a file copied and deleted within a day..
WelshDog2> just a question: if i dont have any partition on my XRAID, how can i make it backup its self on its own HD's?! is this possible?! it wont solve my problem but its good to know if this can be done..
Thank you all guys for your replies, i really appreciate it..

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