Files modified outside of RoboHelp project
Here's an odd problem. Instead of updating files in RoboHelp,
a trainer in my office has been using Dreamweaver to update the
output files directly. (Going into !SSL!\Webhelp and editing those
files instead of editing the files in the project and regenerating
the help.)
In addition, there are a great many new things (documents,
links to external files, etc.) that are linked to the modified
files. A help file that I created ended up being tacked on to the
whole thing via a link on the intro screen instead of being merged
into the TOC like the other help modules. (The person who created
the original help system is not the person who has been maintaining
it for the past two years.)
As a result, the topics in the RoboHelp project do not
necessarily match all of the topics in the current help system.
This is now on my plate. In addition to making sure that my
colleague attends a RoboHelp training class, any advice on the best
way to clean this up?
Hi Cindy
Oh dear oh dear. You have quite a task ahead of you!
I'm sure there will be many folks that will raise their
eyebrows after reading what I'm about to suggest. But I'd have to
say that if you aren't totally sure about what has been updated,
you might be safer by simply copying the WebHelp output files and
overay the project source files. After you do that, there will be
much cleanup work involved. Fortunately, I've developed an article
that should help with this task. You can read it by
Clicking
here.
In my opinion, the only other real option is to methodically
compare each topic with the source topic to ascertain if it has
changed. This could likely prove far more tedious and time
consuming than it would be to do what I suggested earlier.
Regardless of how you choose to proceed, you should ensure
you have a good backup on hand.
After you get it all sorted out, it's time for a really good
lesson for your "helper" about the difference between
source and
output files. Perhaps a human parallel to the old analogy
about feeding oats to horses is in order. You know the one. You
feed oats to the horse. That's like creating WebHelp. The oats go
in one way and come out, ummm, how shall I put this? "Processed".
So as you might imagine, the "processed" oats won't be nearly as
appetizing and nutritious the second (and subsequent) passes
through the horse. Tell the "helper" that if they insist on working
that way, you are going to force them to eat "specially processed"
oats for lunch every day until the activity stops.
Hopefully this helps... Rick
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Seeing "File has been changed outside of RoboHelp... discard changes?"
I'm using: RoboHelp HTML, Version 10.0.1.292
I'm seeing the following message when I make changes within the RoboHelp project and then choose to close my project without saving the changes. It's not consistent behavior - it happens for some help files in the project but not all help files. If I save changes then it doesn't appear.
My steps:
1 - Open RoboHelp (I'm using RoboHelp 10) and make a simple text change to a help topic.
2 - Choose File > Close Project.
3 - Click No when the "Save changes to the following files?" confirmation appears.
This is when I see the message above. The message is confusing for several reasons: 1) I didn't edit the file outside the project, 2) I'm not sure what changes are being discarded if I click Yes, and 3) what's being loaded when I am closing the project.
Full disclosure - The only file I ever edit outside the project is the CSS and I am guilty of editing the CSS with the project open (to instantly see the results of my changes). Could this be the cause even though I haven't touched the CSS in well over a year? Is there old crud stuck in memory for certain help topics? I've never seen this message before and I've worked on this help project for many years.
Further testing - This message is popping up for a help topic added recently so I can't think it's related to any CSS changes made before the file was added. No other files have been edited outside the project that I can think of.
Message was edited by: Tricia TrujilloMaybe with a copy of the project, try deleting the CPD file and then seeing if the offending topic still shows in Project Manager.
Go with Jeff's answer first though.
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I've published Adobe Captivate swf files and then inserted them into my RoboHelp project. I then synced my RoboHelp project with our website and the videos within online help are not functioning in IE8 or IE9. They are only working in IE11.
Thanks,
JaimieHi there
When a SWF plays in IE, it uses the Flash Player ActiveX control. I'm not 100% sure that different versions of IE would share the install. So if you have one version of IE on your machine, perhaps it either doesn't even have the control added in or it's the wrong version.
One thing I would check in the browsers where the content seems to be missing is to right-click the blank area and see if you coax a Flash pop similar to below:
Then note the version number.
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Hi there
Your use of "The Vault" would seem to most certainly describe some form of a Source Control system. Source Control systems offer a combination between a Librarian and a Traffic Cop. Typically you log into these systems with a user ID and a password. That way the system knows who you are.
Typically with these systems the data resides on a coroporate network. And also typically you will have a "working folder" on your hard drive where the files exist. When everything is checked into the Source Control system, the files on your hard drive are flagged as "Read Only".
When you need to work with a file, you perform a process of checking out. The Source Control system then changes the Read Only status of the file on your hard drive to Read/Write. But it also makes a note of the date/time stamp. If the file stored in Source Control is newer than the counterpart on your hard drive, it copies the newer file to your hard drive before allowing you to make changes.
I'd begin with a simple sanity check. Create a totally separate and new project. Add a topic or three. Add an image. Generate. Do things work okay? If not, you have some form of issue with RoboHelp that needs to be resolved before you attempt to troubleshoot what is happening with your project in Source Control.
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Hopefully something here either helped directly or sparked a thought that does.
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Warning - HC4009: The Topic ID "Data_Capture_Operations" specified in the Project files as the Default Topic does not exist.
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Starting compilation...
WinHelp preprocessor 7.01.002
Compiling C:\Documents and Settings\jkmalone1\My Documents\My RoboHelp Projects\CRS On Line Help Individual\DATCAP\!SSL!\WinHelp_4\DATCAP.hlp ...
Preparing to create WinHelp...
Clearing output folder...
Filtering out conditional text...
Processing DATCAP.rtf...
Processing DATCAP.rtf...
Removing watermarks...
Processing DATCAP.rtf...
Collecting Topics' Information...
Processing DATCAP.rtf...
Removing broken jumps...
Finished preparing in 4 sec(s)
Generating WinHelp system...Microsoft (R) Help Compiler
HCRTF 4.03.0002
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp 1990 - 1995. All rights reserved.
Datcap.hpj
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HC4009: Warning:
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0 Jumps
0 Keywords
0 Bitmaps
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You seem to have a multiple segmented question.
I noticed there is the ability to "duplicate a layout". Does
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template for other projects.
In one way, yes you can. You are able to use Windows Explorer
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Cheers... Rick -
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JenPeter, I did draw the correct conclusion, but perhaps I did
not phrase it very well.
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-- Peter, I hope that this aligns with your
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To save $30 a month for a subscription!
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I just upgraded to TC Suite 5.
Now I'm trying to link FrameMaker files to my RoboHelp project. The FrameMaker files are from a document that was done in Frame 9 (TC Suite 3.5) and now has been converted to Frame 11. It's working fine in Frame 11. No errors when opening any of the files in Frame 11.
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