Film noise / lens flare in cs4?

Hi,
Years ago I used to use Premiere 6 - real old school!
It had a great effect, listed in the Quick Time folder within video effects, which allowed you to add film noise (random scratch marks) and lens flare so that your movie looked like it had been shot on an old super 8 or something similar.
I now have CS4 but can't find an the same effect in there. Surely it's possible to do - they can't have LOST an effect in development over all these years?!
Any ideas greatly appreciated!
cheers

Looking at my XP version of WMM (not the more recent Live version), I see Film Age, Old, Older and Oldest, plus Film Grain. All could be useful.
One can also Keyframe the fixed Effect>Opacity to get "flicker." If one wants the "flicker" to go lighter, then just place a Color Matte (white) on Video Track 1 and the footage on Video Track 2, then apply those Keyframed Opacity Effect.
If you are thinking about doing the "aging" in Pr 6.0, you might want to look into doing an Export from CS4 and working on that. Something like DV-AVI Type II should be fine, but maybe even using the Lagarith Lossless CODEC (if Pr 6.0 supports it, and I think that it will), and then Exporting from Pr 6.0 to Lagarith.
If you use WMM, you would do similar, but I rather doubt that it will process the Lagarith Lossless CODEC (might want to experiment), and then Export as DV-AVI Type I. This file should Import into CS4 fine, though it is slightly different than DV-AVI Type II. One possible issue might be Video and Audio going OSS (Out Of Sync), but when this happens, it's usually static OOS, and not dynamic OOS, so it's easy to fix. Another workflow would be to Export as DV-AVI Type I and use a conversion program (plenty of free ones, like Prism) to convert to DV-AVI Type II.
One consideration is that since ultimate quality is not what you want, not even worrying about something like Lagarith Lossless, as a little more degradation might actually help you achieve your goal - Old Film.
Good luck,
Hunt
PS - Also, the Effect>Strobe might be useful?

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