Film rolls are missing

One of my iPhoto libraries has film rolls missing and rebuilding thumbs and database did not help. I can see the original photos in the iPhoto library on the hard drive though, so I would not want to reimport. Is there a way to show the film rolls again without re-importing?
Thanks,

Since the original photos are still in the iPhoto
library, (even if I drag the folder to the desktop),
how do I avoid having a second set of the same photos
when I re-import them into that iPhoto library? Can I
select Preferences-Advanced and tick NOT import
photos into iPhoto library? In this way, it will give
me an alias pointing back to the existing library,
give me my film rolls back, but no dupes?
After dragging to the desktop it is necessary to go in iPhoto and delete the remains from there. I was going on the assumption (correct me if I am wrong) that the photos from the missing rolls have either thumbnails or empty boxes in the iPhoto window. Delete them in iPhoto, then empty iPhoto trash before you reimport. Otherwise, iPhoto won't recreate their thumbnails and the reimport will not work.
I don't believe that creating an alias will help, because it won't fix the link that has been broken. Plus, it will add more confusion to your library.
Thank you all for your help. Thing is that I
understand that they will have to be re-imported if
the rolls are missing, but WHY are the rolls missing?
I don't know. It usually results from user activity in the iPhoto library folder from within Finder. The simple act of renaming a roll's folder in Finder will cause iPhoto to be unable to access all of the files stores inside that roll. If you haven't done that, then it's a mystery. [I had gremlins that rearranged my files during my upgrade from iPhoto 5 to iPhoto 6. Modified files traded places with Originals, some files were missing from Originals but present in Modified-it was weird. I used this method to sort everything out and haven't had a problem since the upgrade.]
I use iPhoto Buddy to select my iPhoto libraries (I
have about 10 libraries) and one of those libraries
was corrupted (due to overloaded photobook I think),
but the iPhoto library in question, that I was not
using, has film rolls missing when I opened the
library. (I'm afraid this is going to get contagious
and affect my other iphoto libraries too!)
I haven't seen other reports of iPhoto Buddy breaking connections like this, but I don't use it so I can't really speculate. I would expect to see lots of complaints if this happened very frequently at all.
For the future, keep a current backup of the Library6.iPhoto file for each of your libraries. It is located inside the iPhoto library folder; Duplicate it in Finder and move the copy. This is the database file which contains the metadata about albums, rolls, keywords, etc. If your database fails in the future you can simply replace this file with the backup to restore your library. I take this advice from Old Toad and backup the file every time I close iPhoto.

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Some film rolls are named "originals" - why?

I'm still a fairly new user of Macs as well as anything like iPhoto. For quite some time, I only imported my photos into iPhoto for fear of breaking something.
Well, I'm getting over that fear, and I have noticed that some of my film rolls have a name of "orignals", but some (which do have edited photos in them) don't have that name.
This might be due to some photos possibly being imported more than once (again, possibly from concerns to be certain I could back up my photos), but I'm not 100% certain of that. Is it possible to either get rid of these rolls (but not delete the photos), or to completely rebuild my iPhoto library, without loosing the edits, and metadata I've already configured?
Mac mini 1.25/512 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi Lew,
At one time you probably used the "add to library" and pointed to another iPhoto Library folder to import.
If you did that, then what you would get is:
Your images will be imported in nice dated rolls. (make sure your view is set to sort by rolls to see it) There are a couple of caveats to this. You will get rolls named "Originals" These rolls will contain your video clips and your original images that you had edited. If you had RAW files they would be in those rolls too (I don't do RAW, so I don't know for sure) Delete what you don't want from those rolls. You will also get the jpeg pointer files to your video clips imported. They will just be jpegs and will not point to the video clips anymore as iPhoto made new ones when the clips were imported again. You can delete those. they should be in a roll right next to the newly imported video clips so they are not hard to find. The thumbnail files don't get imported as iPhoto makes new ones when the images are imported.
So, if you don't want the images that are in the Original rolls, as they are the originals of edited or rotated images, then just delete them. If you still want a copy of them for safe keeping then drag the images or the roll called Originals out of the iPhoto library window to your desktop, then delete the roll within iPhoto. You can burn the ones to disc on your desktop if you'd like.
Or:
you can combine images from that roll to another roll with the edited images in them if you like.
To create a new film roll, command click each image or roll of images or combination of both, then go to File>create film roll.
This will create a new film roll containing all the images you selected.
Lori

Iphoto 6 - photos in my various film rolls are mixed up.

I take a lot shots for my residential home insurance business. My work flow is as follows.
Take many shots of many home during the day. up to 100 for each home
Then at my computer
- create a separate new film roll for each home.
- drag each new film roll to the side bar creating an album of each home
- working in the album delete photos not required and edit the few that i need.
- then within each album i use the photo>batch change>title>text.. adding a suffix of A, B, C and so on as i need so that the end result is the first 10 shots are titled A-1 to A-9 and then next are B1 to B9 and so on until the home is done and then i repeat for each home.
The result is that my library of photos has many many shots labeled A1 or A2 or C3 etc.. but this has not been a problem since the shots are contained within separate film rolls never confusing the shots.
But now when i look back at older film rolls, they seem to have shots mixed up from various other film rolls.
Any thoughts? Would appreciate the help.

Ok. after first panicking and not reading further on how to fix iphoto, i calmed down and did the reading i should have done first. Seems that holding down the option and command key at iphoto boot-up initiates a rebuild command.
I did a complete rebuild and all the photos are back in order. Not sure why this occurred but I'm happy that it was fixable.
Iphoto rules.

Film rolls missing

Hello
I have recently upgraded to Tiger and iLife 05 Many of my film rolls are missing. Does anyone know if there is a way to find missing film rolls? It is curious that some of my old rolls are in the library and some newer ones but many of my rolls from earlier this summer a now gone.

Hi Frozen,
Let's see if iPhoto can find them again with a rebuild of the library.
Try this:
Before doing a rebuild make sure iPhoto's trash bin is emptied. You can do this by control clicking on the trash bin, or from the menu bar under iPhoto.
Close iPhoto
Duplicate the iPhoto Library folder
Drag the duplicate to the desktop (hopefully you have enough room on your hard drive for the duplicate.)
Launch iPhoto holding down the Command and Option keys until you see the rebuild options screen.
Choose the first three options. If you were missing photos in your library, also choose the last option. Be advised that you will get a roll of orphaned photos and it might be quite huge. Most of them will already be in your iPhoto library, but use caution when deleting anything from this roll until you are sure the photos are still in your library in another place. It might be a good idea to share/export this roll of photos just in case you need to import them again.
Back to the rebuild, depending on the size of your library it might take some time. When it is done, hopefully your photos will be there.
You might see some unexpected results as I did when I did a rebuild. Photos had been moved to wrong dates, video clips had lost their duration info and some were even orphaned from the jpg pointer file. It took me some time to straighten it out again.
This is the reason to make a duplicate before you rebuild, in case you do not like the result. If you don't like the result, close iPhoto, then delete the rebuilt library and drag the duplicate back into the Pictures folder making sure the name is iPhoto Library. Launch iPhoto and it should open the library in the Pictures folder.

Expanding/Shrinking film rolls

I'm working on backing up my iPhoto Library. I'm wanting to select groups of film rolls until the disk is shown to be full. I have 12,000 photos at present and all the film rolls are currently expanded.
I've been going along and clicking on the down arrow next to the film roll icon to shrink the roll up so that it is just the roll # showing. I've been doing this for every individual roll.
There has to be a better way.
Any ideas on how to 'batch process' (like in iTunes) where I can expand/shrink an entire library, year, or huge selection of film rolls in one smooth move?
Once I get the discs made, I'll want to re-expand all the rolls.
Thanks for ideas
PowerMac G4 1.42 duel Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Kraftsims:
Remember if you keep all your rolls open when closing iPhoto it will take a lot longer to open iPhoto the next time, depending on the size of your library of course. One of the tips to speed up iPhoto is to keep the rolls closed except for those you're working with.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've written an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

How to re-number Film Rolls

I understand how to change the title and date of a Film Roll, but I would like to re-number the Film Rolls in my library to have them in the same order as their dates. Does anyone know how to do that?
(Reason for me to change the Film Roll numbers: In smart albums, if "View>Film Rolls" is clicked on, the Film Rolls are sorted by roll number, not by the date assigned to the roll. I know that I could sort photos by dates, but then the Film Rolls are not displayed).
Thanks!

Yes, that's what I did and it did not solve the problem. It seems to be a bug.
Again, here is what I did, step-by-step:
1. Added 1 picture, created 1 Roll "Roll 1"
2. Added another picture, created a second roll "Roll 2"
3. Addes a third picture, created a third roll "Roll 3"
4. Called Roll 1 "1980", Roll 2 "1982" and Roll 3 "1981" (Order is now: 1980, 1982, 1981).
5. Changed date of "1980" to 1/1/1980, of "1982" to 1/1/1982 and "1981" to 1/1/1981 (Order is now: 1980, 1981, 1982 in LIBRARY).
6. When I create a smart album, the order is 1980, 1982, 1981.
So while everything is fine in the library, smart albums don't show the rolls in proper order. They seem to ignor the date assigned to the film roll and keep sorting by the initial order of the film roll as they were created.

Multiple film rolls in source library

Belated thanks to those who helped me create new film rolls (in August!) Your advice was accurate, but my source library shows no film rolls except 'last roll'(although there are many rolls shown on the hard disk). When I create a new selection of photos in a new film roll it simply makes that selection 'last roll' and I can't rename it.

Yes, Film Rolls are very flexible. You can drag selected photo(s) into another roll. Don't release the mouse until the roll header is highlighted, and then the photos will drop into that roll. Command-click to add photos to your selection; that's the easiest way to select photos from different rolls at once. When they are selected, drag any one of them to the header of the roll to which you want them added. Or make your selection and do File > Create Film Roll to bring them into a new roll.
Film Rolls only list chronologically, in ascending or descending order. So if you'd like to tweak the order of your rolls a bit, you can edit the film roll date. It's independent from the dates of the photos, so it doesn't hurt anything to change it.
Have fun.

How to put photos back into two film rolls which are now emply.

For a few months my iPhoto has been unable to do things it should be able to do according to iPhoto documentation, such as put slideshows in a folder.
Yesterday I titled about 50 film rolls that previously were unnamed and deleted quite a few slideshows. Now, when I look in two very important film rolls in my iPhoto 6.0.4 Library, their over 1,000 photos are no longer there. My iPhoto trash is empty.
I have 3 recent backups. One, a zip backup is (along with my iPhoto Library) in my pictures folder. A backup iPhoto Library & zipped Library are on an external drive.
Can I get just the missing photos from one of these backups into my current library? ______ How? __
1 Ghz PowerPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7) iPhoto 6.0.4
1 Ghz PowerPC G4 Mac OS X (10.4.7)

I was under the impression it was there so you can back up all your files.
iCloud is not intended as a backup, but rather as a central storage for your documents and data, so you can keep them up to date and accessible on all devices.
For your photos in iCloud you will need iCloud Photo Library. This is still a Beta version, and has not yet been released for the Mac, but is already available on iPads and iPhones with iOS 8.
See this support document: iCloud Photo Library beta FAQ
You can enable iCloud Photo Library beta on your iPad, and then your photos will be stored in iCloud. Your Mac can see these photos using the Photos Beta app on the icloud webpage at www.icloud.com .
In a few weeks or so, when Apple will release MacOS X 10.10.3, the new Photos.app on the Mac will be able to migrate your iPhoto Library to iCloud Photo Library, as described here: Apple - OS X - Photos Preview
Just wait a bit longer, until iCloud id ready for your Photos library.

I've made a film, and I'm at the point where I export it to post it, and I get the error message that "2 clips are missing"?

So my film is all done, very excited to share it. It's a short thing at about 4:20 minutes long with music with video from several different cameras, 2 types of gopros, and my buddy's nikon DSLR. It plays back fine in final cut but gives me the error message when i try to export.
How do i 'find the clips that are missing' or figure which ones are the ones that are 'missing' ? And the how do i 'find' them ?

Do you see any of your clips in the Browser have have been replace by a red icon? Those are the missing clips.
You can also go to File -> Relink Files. It'll bring up a window showing the missing files when the "Missing" radio button is selected. There's a button to help you locate the files. Once you have located the missing files, click the "Relink Files" at the bottom of the window.
I had to do this for 339 missing files...it's a long story...last weekend. It worked perfectly.

Iphoto slow problem - photos are organised in folders not film rolls

I'm suffering from the iphoto slow problem and have been trying to find a way to stop iphoto from loading all the photos every time.
My photos are arranged in folders, so I don't seem to have the option to stop the photos being loaded by film roll.
Does anyone have any other ideas ?

I'm not sure what that means. Whether you have albums or not, iPhoto still considers a single import batch as a roll. If the rolls are not collapsed, then everytime you launch iPhoto, it assumes you want to be able to see your entire library, and it goes about the job of making all the thumbnails available.

Orphaned photos (whole film rolls) not found

After a pretty bad crash (whole computer hung), forced restart, a lot of applications have lost their preferences and/or other settings files. For example Mail behaved like on its first run, asking me if I wanted to learn about new features, inbox was empty, but fortunately I could restore com.apple.mail.plist and all was fine.
iPhoto was a little bit more difficult though. First it presented me with an entirely empty library, no folders, nothing, just as if I had started iPhoto on a new computer for the first time. I quit iPhoto and restored "com.apple.iphoto.plist", "AlbumData.xml" and "Library6.iPhoto" from a backup. Then I ran iPhoto again... hurray, everything was the way it used to be... last week. But the photos I had imported since then (about 500) were nowhere to be seen.
Then I learned about iPhoto's feature for recovering orphaned photos. I launched with a bunch of modifier keys pressed, got the dialog, and rebuilt everything (thumbs, database, look for orphaned photos,...). Result: the orphaned photos were still missing. I suspect iPhoto will only find orphaned photos in folders (film rolls) it already knows about, not entire orphaned film rolls.
I located the photos in the FInder ("Filmrol 201" through "Filmrol 230") and tried copying them to the iPhoto window, hoping they would be added in. Nope, iPhoto actually complains it cannot add them to the library because... the files are located inside the library folder?!
I tried screwing with the "AlbumData.xml" file to add entries about the missing rolls, but that did not seem to help, and the entried were simply removed on the next run of iPhoto.
The only possibility seems to be moving the photos to a different location, then importing them into iPhoto from there (which actually makes a new copy of every file). Or maybe I will just import one photo to create a new film roll, then move all the other photos into that film roll folder, then let iPhoto look for orphaned photos.
Any other ideas? What would be the best, cleanest and safest way of making these orphans re-appear?
Also, does anyone know what exactly caused the preferences and other files to be corrupted like that in the first place? Just about any app that was open at the time of the crash, has lost its preferences and sometimes other files completely. I've heard of the same problem happening to other people too. It would be really nice if apps like Mail and iPhoto would keep backups of critical files. I am using FileVault, by the way.
Thanks,
Michel Colman
(pretty seasoned Mac user and programmer, so don't feel afraid to send difficult details and procedures)
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Michel
Or can iPhoto "know about" a picture but not display it in the library? That doesn't seem to make sense.
It's for when something has gone wrong, but the first condition is that the pic must have been imported.
In your situation, following the restoring to the earlier db file, these pics were not imported, iPhoto did not know about them, they were not orphans.
iPhoto NEVER looks for photos anywhere. It simply reads it's database. If the file isn't in the database, then , as far as iPhoto is concerned, the file doesn't exist. The ONLY way iPhoto can be introduced to iPhoto is by importing it. Simply having files in folders won't work. Period.
At the very least, the description of the checkbox is misleading.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html
As for not importing pics that are in the iPhoto Library folder being a "sensible precaution", well, if these are photos that are not currently included in iPhoto's database, I think it should import them (by updating its library file, obviously not by making new duplicates of the files). But I guess I'm just being too logical now
See the link above.
However, if you read this forum you'll see that when issues arise the inexperienced user will try to re-import the iPhoto Library Folder to iPhoto, on the basis that the pics are "lost". If iPhoto did allow this you'd get libraries populated with thumbnails treated as full sized pics, plus, multiple copies of the fullsized pics on a rather common basis. Personally, I think that's sensible.
Regards
TD

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

Since you're using the term Rolls you must be running iPhoto 6 or earlier. For future problems be sure you post in the iPhoto 6 or forum.
For this problem the View File rolls will only Be sure you're clicked on the Library. That menu item is not available in an album or other item. If you have clicked the library icon first and it's still grayed out close iPhoto, delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder and then try again.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

Will Not Display by Film Roll

I can't figure this out: When I am on the "library" selection, I used
to see a display of all the film rolls, listed separately. Now all I get is a scroll of photos with no indication of what film roll they are on.
How do I set the view so I can view the photos grouped by film rolls?

Hi Bill,
Actually the same thing happened to me under different circumstances.
I was dragging a group of five images to a keyword in the keyword panel.
I dropped them on the keyword and in front of my eyes the library images were shifting. (I have my view set to rolls). When I was done being shocked I discovered all my images were in one roll. This was not acceptable to me as I really like my dated roll organization.
I had recently done a backup so I dragged out the messed up library and dragged my backup into the Pictures folder.
I no longer use that keyword panel for keywords. I use the "get info" pop over window to keyword my images.
I really don't know what your iPhoto Library looks like in the Finder. If you can navigate there and tell me if your images are still in their dated folders, I can tell you what to do from there.
This is a view of how the iPhoto Library looks in the Finder.
It is organized by Year folders. Inside the Year folders are Month folders. Inside the Month folders are the days of the Month. Inside the day folders are the photos you took on that day. If you imported video clips and RAW files on that day they will be in an Originals folder. If you have edited any photo imported on that day, the original will be in that folder also.
If your images are still in their dated rolls in the Finder, then you can get those rolls back, but will lose Albums, keywords, slideshow...basically everything , but you will get your roll organization back.
You would follow the instructions on Page 2 for the "add to the library" method.
iPhoto Help
iPhoto Help 2

Create Film Roll - greyed out

I wish to create some Film Rolls, to better organize my photos....
As the title indicates the option under File 'Create Film Roll' is greyed out.
As extra info:
I have checked that all ticks are set under Library, no entry in the search box bottom right, and no filter bottom left.
I have recently imported the files, when I first swapped from WindowsXP, and they weren't put into film rolls which I would like to do now!

orchis
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
To create a film roll you must be in the Full library
and
Have at least one pic selected.
Every pic in your Library is in a Roll, they have to be. Rolls in the iPhoto Window (View -> Film Rolls) correspond exactly with the Roll Folders in the Originals Folder in the iPhoto Library Folder.
Regards
TD

How can I change the order of photos in a film roll?

I've scanned in images and then imported them to i-photo and they are not in order on the film roll in i-photo. Does anyone know how I can re-order them within the roll?
Thanks
Ruth

There's only two way to arrange photos in the roll itself while having the rolls visible in the organize window. They are last file created first or last file created last.
You can create an album of that roll and then arrange them manually, by date, by file name. If by date or file name and you want them sorted alphanumerically or chronologically you'll have to make sure the check box, "Place most recent photos at the top" is unchecked in the iPhoto Preferences/Appearances pane.
OT

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