Filter by keyword bug?

Has anyone else noticed this bug in iMovie '09...
After adding some keywords try to use the 'Filter by Keyword' feature, you'll notice that it's impossible to turn the topmost green light on. In other words it's impossible to 'only show clips that are tagged with whatever happens to be the first keyword in the list'.
You can only 'omit' the topmost keyword from view (red light).
Dave

I've noticed this as well - surely this can be sorted in a software update? What are your plans Apple?

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Smart Album Keyword Bug

I have a library of 17,440 “Referenced” photos, grouped across multiple projects, none of which contain more than about 400 photos. Prior to importing these images into Aperture, I had already keyworded all of them; the keywords are embedded within the image files.
707 of these images have the keyword “Cruise_Ship” (photos of or on a cruise ship). I then created a smart album with a SINGLE filter, “Keyword = Cruise_Ship”. I have no other filters selected, I have no other keywords selected in the keyword filter, and at the top of the keyword filter, I have selected “Include ALL of the following”.
However, instead of the 707 expected images, this smart album actually displays 5336 images. I have verified, via the metadata browser that in fact most of these images DO NOT contain the keyword “Cruise_Ship”.
So, I tried the following (in order). After each step, I once again checked the contents of the smart album, and in each case it displayed 5336 images instead of the correct 770:
Repair Database
Repair Permissions
Rebuild Database
Reboot Computer
Rebuild Database
As one last attempt, in the Keyword HUD, I renamed the keyword “Cruise_Ship” to “CruiseShip” (no underscore). The HUD correctly indicated that that keyword was used in 707 versions. I then in fact changed the keyword in those versions. I then created a NEW smart album, with the only filter being “Keyword = CruiseShip” (again no underscore) and once again the smart album incorrectly displayed 5336 images.
I am using Aperture 3.0.3.
I’m out of ideas...

I can't say I have the same bug. However, I do have one that might be worth checking on.
On my Aperture 3 here the keyword panel padlock works back to front, i.e. if it's displaying an open padlock icon, the keyword panel is actually locked, rather than unlocked as it should be, and vice versa.
This stumped me for a while, as I also kept finding unauthorised changes happening to my keywords. Now I know to operate the padlock opposite to what I expect, it does stop any unauthorised changes.
(yes, I submitted a bug report).
Cheers.

Library Keyword Bug - Another example

Lightroom v 3.3
iMac OSX 10.6.7
Here is another example, a pretty egregious example of the keyword bug.
Keyword: Linda shows 811 photos
The Library Filter Shows 801 photos
LR opens 599 in the grid view.
What gives?

I hit Photo > Stacking > Expand All Stacks before taking the screen shot. I brought in 15 more photos. But there still is a big discrepancy between the keyword count, and the filter count on top.
Any experient or suggestions. I DO NOT want to rebuild everything, it will take me weeks.

Filter by keywords

Does anyone know if it is possible for the filter by keywords list of keywords to be organised in an hierarchical structure as is the Keywords HUD. I find it a pain that if I want to filter by a number of subordinate keywords within one main keyword they are all spread about alphabetically and not grouped together as would be the case within the HUD.

Keywords are flat structure, I believe.
The HUD gives you visual hierarchy but its only for organizing the list of keywords. The associated keywords in the image files are list of keywords as you've indicated.
There are other search fields you can use (with smart albums) to collect images into a single grouping of your choice.

Keyword Bugs and Some Keywording Improvement / Feature Suggestions

Tagging Bugs and Some Improvement / Feature Suggestions
Please excuse where I should use the word Tag or Keyword or vice versa!
1.       BUG?    If a tag synonym is added or changed then all affected photos should be marked for re-publish. I do not think this currently happens.   Should this possibly be considered a bug?
2.       BUG?    When viewing a smart collection in a Flickr publish service and a new tag is added to a photo it is correctly moved to the “requires re-publish” section.   However … the thumb selection in the grid moves to the next photo, the loop view remains on the photo just tagged and the key wording still reflects the just tagged photo.    The selection shown in the grid appears to be wrong.      When working quickly this can result in tagging errors as the user looking on the grid believes he is working on the next highlighted photo in the grid.      This is surely a bug?
3.       BUG?      A minor point and I realise this is probably not the correct way to do things … but a double word synonym entered with quotes for example “Ice Climbing” will create two tags “Ice” and “Climbing” at the flicker end of things.    Removal of this synonym and forcing a re-publish does not delete these two tags at the flicker end of things.    I may have miss-understood, but perhaps it is best for LR not to allow quoted tags?
4.       SUGGESTION      An easier and more powerful way to review tagging of current photos should be provided whereby it is possible to clearly see the current tagging of a photo and have immediate access to the keyword list at the same time to make corrections.    Having both the Keywording and Keyword List panels open in Library mode results in a lot of up and down scrolling for me and is a slightly inelegant UI in my opinion.   I would suggest it should at very least be possible to have the tags viewable in Loop info as an option - so long as no truncation is made and all tags visible.    Ideally a better way should be sought.
5.       SUGGESTION      It would be very useful when reviewing tagging to select to show all photos in the currently selected folder or set which do not contain the selected tag.    Note, I don’t think this can be easily achieved by using a keyword filter and selecting all keywords and unselecting the tag of interest as the pictures may have many tags.    The same might be performed by textual based searches but this is inelegant and its slowness precludes a browsing approach.     For example – for me it would be useful to look at all my mountain shots in a trip which have not been tagged with “Glacier” and it will be immediately visually apparent where I need to make tagging corrections.    I would suggest a “Not” checkbox is made available on the top of each column in the library filter – this may also provide a great deal of power for other situations.
6.       SUGGESTION      It would be useful to allow a means of showing all pictures with a certain tag but which have not been tagged yet with any children of said tag.   For example all pictures tagged with Glacier which I have not yet named the glacier by introducing a relevant child tag or selecting an existing child tag.    A similar situation occurs for wildlife and potentially many other scenarios … I would like to use a tag “Butterfly” which I can quickly use on my first pass… and then do the identification and child tagging on a second pass using appropriate filtering.   This allows for a step wise or “top down” approach to tag classifying things in a workflow.    I appreciate this can be achieved (as I do now) by using a child tag called “Unnamed butterfly” or “Unnamed Glacier” but it seems more powerful, elegant and generically applicable to be able to filter on a “not tagged with a child” basis.
I apologise if I have missed the point on some existing functionality on any of these points and welcome any suggestions.

This is a great post.
I couldn't have written it myself better.
I'm also in dying need of Korean input as I can't communicate with my Korean friends.
But I second every point.
I hope the tech teams are reading this.

Can't filter on keywords when having ca +300 keywords

I'm trying to filter my photos (ca 30.000) on keywords (having ca +300) but run into problems because all my keywords won't show up on the screen when doing Search->Keywords. Screen shows ca 200 of them and I can't scroll the list, so I'm unable to filter on the keywords not showing up in the list.
Any ideas? Except deleting a lot of keywords, that is

KeyWord Manager is end of life and is no longer working nor developed.
I can't believe this glaringly obvious fault still exists in iPhoto. It makes keywords and thus iPhoto now unusable for me to manage a large library.
I have also added a feedback bug to Apples support site - not that I expect to ever hear anything back...

LR4.4 - Library filter by keyword - unable to select keyword.

Lightroom version: 4.4 [891433]
Operating system: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition
Version: 6.1 [7601]
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64
Logical processor count: 4
Processor speed: 2.6 GHz
Built-in memory: 6087.8 MB
Real memory available to Lightroom: 6087.8 MB
Real memory used by Lightroom: 523.6 MB (8.6%)
Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 551.5 MB
Memory cache size: 1012.7 MB
Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 2
System DPI setting: 106 DPI
Desktop composition enabled: No
Displays: 1) 1600x900
If I am in Library module, select filter Metadata, select Keywords from dropdown (no other filter panels selected), and start to scroll down the list of keywords, I can select keywords by mouseclick, and see the matching photos as thumbs in the main window.
However as I scroll further down, I can no longer select keywords - the mouseclick no longer highlights or selects. This happens rather incosnsistently - by which I mean, the point in the eyword list where the select stops working is not always the same place in the keyword list.
If I click several times on the same non-selecting keyword, LR4.4 jumps to taking 50% (exactly) of processor time (shown in task manager) , and the memory usage climbs steadily until all free RAM is consumed.
This is a small (~8000 image) catalogue, with ~2500 keywords, entirely non-hierarchical.
The catalogue is set to optimise on backup, weekly.
I've tried deleting and recreating the preferences file btw to no avail

LR on Windows starts choking when you have more than about 1500 keywords. It's a longstanding bug from at least LR 3 that still isn't fixed in LR 5 (hard to believe, but true).
Please add your vote to this official bug report:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/i_cannot_access_the_whole_keyword_li st_to_edit
That thread also has a couple of workarounds.

Aperture Keyword Bug!!?!?!?

Wow, I've just spent hours assigning keywords in Aperture and the Smart Album I've created and re-created does not accurately reflect the selected keywords.... OUCH! Is this a known bug? Please, is there a solution???
I have noticed that one KW: "Debbie" seems to show all of the images that are tagged with another KW ("Wine"). Some KWs seem to be accurate.... for others there is no explanation--it's just wacky.
AP 3.0.3, MacPro, 30" Monitor.
Thanks,
Robert
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Also make sure to give Aperture some processing time. With thousands of photos and changes, it can take a minute or more for everything to percolate through the database. I've noticed this especially with mass keyword changes. Close and re-open Aperture to force all changes to take effect.
In case you don't know, "{Option}+click" on a keyword in the keyword list of the Keyword Filter Rule will deselect all other keywords and select only the clicked keyword. This can be useful for troubleshooting Smart Albums which aren't behaving as expected.
You should also check that you don't have duplicate keywords with the same name at different levels of your keyword hierarchy. ("People/Friends/Debbie" is not the same as "People/Debbie" even though each shows as "Debbie".) Aperture has yet to correct this unhelpful behavior.

Does Bridge only Filter/Search Keywords in one folder at a time?

It seems the "Filter" feature in CS6 Bridge will only search keywords in a single opened folder. What if I have multiple folders for image downloads, one per day, in a parent folder for the month, or even a year? Can I use Bridge to filter images in a folder containing other folders?
If not, is there another search strategy I can use to quickly filter images in multiple folders? Thanks.

You can select a root folder, and then select Show Items from Subfolders from the View menu. That adds all contained files to the Content panel, from which you can filter.
If you need more control, you can use Find instead, where you can also do AND/OR operations too, but takes a little more patience.

Automator - Filter Finder Items bug?

I've only started using Automator a few months ago, but now I ran into a problem, which I think is not my fault, but is a bug in Automator.
Here's the scenario:
What I have is a Folder Action on the Downloads folder, and the following list of actions in order:
Get Finder Items: how.i.met.your.mother.s04e05.srt (this is for testing purposes)
Filter Finder Items - if ANY of the following are true:
Name contains "big.bang.theory"
Name contains "how.i.met.your.mother"
Name contains "fringe"
etc
I managed to find out that the same kind of container (here: Name) could not be used multiple times, because it gives no result in case "Any" of them are true. There is no way to test if any of these strings are present in the file name. I thought I could use this action like a function with "OR"-separated boolean parameters, but apparently that only works if I change the container type, e.g. I use Kind instead of Name. Meaning, if there is only one Name container, then it outputs the correct result (the .srt file, if the statement is true).
So, did I do something wrong, or is this really a bug in Automator? If you have an alternate suggestion on how to solve this, please don't hold it back

I have the same problem.
I am trying to select ANY of the following extentions: JPG, PNG, TIFF and I get no output. While if I only select one extention I do get the right output for the extention selected.
ANY of the following are true
               File extention          is          JPG
               File extention          is          PNG
               File extention          is          TIFF
     ~~~no results produced~~~
ANY of the following are true
               File extention          is          JPG
     ~~~001.JPG, 002.JPG, etc..~~~

Library Keyword Bug?

I am not sure if this is a bug, and if it is not, then I suppose this will be a feature request.
Background: I am using Lightroom 1.3.1 on a MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz on OS X 10.5.1 with 4GB of RAM.
Expectation: When in the Library Module, I'd like to be able to select multiple files from the thumbnail bar at the bottom, type in applicable keywords and then save them to all of the ones selected regardless of whether my main screen is in fit mode or thumbnail mode.
Actual Experience: When the main screen is in fit mod and I save my keywords, they only save to the actual image being displayed in fit mode despite the fact that I have multiple images selected below in the thumbnail bar.
Thanks,
Stephen

Searching in this forum defaults, unfortunately, to the thread you've just been perusing. Just check the other box.
BTW, if we were to vote on it, I'd go with the way it's set up currently. But then, for whatever reason, I hardly ever use the strip. Much prefer grid for multiple ops, and for me, I need to check just how many are selected, anyhow!

Filter on keyword across multiple "folders"

It is clear that I can filter for specified keyword within a "folder."
This does not provide much convenience, it seems to me. I want to locate images with a given keyword across a large number of "folders" including even my entire C: drive. I must be missing something, because there is little advantage if filtering for a specified keyword is limited to what you might see in the thumbnails on the Bridge screen.
I nearly always store my images by date, with the "folder" name being the date taken. I plan to use Bridge to assign multiple keywords to all my images stored on my computer, a tedious chore, but one that I can do a bit at one time; say one day's shooting per day until I eventually catch up with several years of shooting.
There must be some functionality that I am ignorant of which allows the user to filter on all, repeat all, images tagged, for example, "Sarah." I have tried searching the FAQs and have failed to find the answer. I have tried highlighting a couple of "folders" but the "filter" functionality is not available as far as I can tell. Please tell me what I must do to exploit the Filter functionality across multiple "folders."

I much appreciate the very useful information from Sergei Urlof, and I am using it. But I could use even more information, to speed up what I am trying to do. I want to know some efficient work flow procedures for using the keyword functionality.
I want to tag every appropriate image file that I have in storage with the name of the persons pictured. I see that when I open a folder in Bridge, and follow the File/File Info route, I can assign a keyword to the file, or more keywords if I use a comma. I see that the keywords I assign are shown on the bottom right side of screen. I see that if I open a different folder, the keywords are carried over, and I can locate/highlight other files with a particular person pictured, and can assign a keyword by clicking in the box by the keyword. This saves me the steps involved in File/File Info and typing in a keyword that is already in the list shown bottom right.
HOWEVER, as soon as I close that particular Bridge session, I lose that list, or at least so it seems to me. How do I recover the list of all keywords that I have assigned previously and make them available for clicking, for use with a folder newly opened? I can imagine using variations of names for a given person as keywords, and that would lead to poor filtering. That is, I do not see a keyword-name for an image of a certain person, so I type in a name in the File/File Info Keyword box. But it is a slight variant of one I have used before; e.g., Victoria instead of Vicki. I would not use a variant if the list of previously assigned keywords were displayed.
So, how do I bring up the previously assigned keywords, for use in a new Bridge session?

Filter by keyword problem: can I type the keyword anywhere?

I hope that I have explained myself sufficiently clearly.
I have assigned a few keywords to a few clips. Is there an easier way to search for a keyword than what I am doing?
Click the small loupe button,
That opens the filter window,
The first line is Text, which I uncheck (but Text cannot be removed) from the window,
Add a second line (keyword),
At that point, the existing keywords appear below, ready to check or uncheck,
That does the search as desired.
My question: is there a faster way, by just typing the known keyword into a field?
Am I correct that the only way to do a keyword search is to check the existing words, and not type them anywhere?
I can do this for Text, (for the clip name) without even opening the Filter Window--just typing the clip name into the field.
Thanks,
Sonny

I don't know of a way to search keywords by typing but if you click the disclosure triangle next to the Event name, that shows your keyword collections for that event. Click one of them and all the clips assigned with that keyword are displayed.
In the search box, you do not need to uncheck the Text search. Instead, click the small button with the down arrow and choose Keywords.
When all the keywords appear, they are checked but you can choose to uncheck them all, then select the ones you want. Not as quick as simply typing a word into a box, but an imporvement on what you described (I hope).
Andy

Possible Keyword Bug

Okay,
I think I have found a possible bug with keywords, or maybe just an incositancy. It's kind of a messy situation so I'm hoping someone can help me out or maybe point me in the right direction to send this feedback to Apple.
I had a bunch of jpeg files from my older cameras that had already been tagged with keywords (in the IPTC keyword field I believe). Once I imported all of these into Aperture I stripped the keywords from all the images. That worked fine.
Before I get into the actual issue let me give a little bit of information on my Aperture library layout: I have folders created by year, then 1 project per month. So I have something like this:
2002
01 Janurary
02 Feburary
2003
01 Janurary
What's weird is if I create a new smart album at the folder level, the keywords listed in the search box are appropriate (only those actually added to images). However if I click on Library and create a new smart album (so that it searches the whole library) it lists all of my current keywords, plus all of those that I had removed (from the original files).
Anyone else run across this? Anyone know how to fix it? It's just a minor inconvience, but it does make it a bit of a pain to have a whole ton of keywords to select from in the search box (most of them no longer having any images associated with them).
Also I have searched for images that match the old keywords and it doesn't find any.
Thanks,
Mark

She suggests..
"Go to Window > Show Keywords HUD, and see if they are there. If so, you should be able to delete them from there."
Hopefully, they will then disappear from the Library list.
if not, it does seem like a bug.
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Semicolon Keyword Bug

I just submitted this as a bug to Apple:
I have keywords set to have people's names listed last name first. So to keep Aperture from treating the last and the first name as separate keywords I format them as "Smith; Fred" instead of "Smith, Fred". This works most of the time, if "Smith; Fred" is not the first keyword to be added to an image.
I've discovered though that if "Smith; Fred" is the first keyword and I add a second. say "Friend", (it doesn't seem to matter what the second keyword is), Then "Smith; Fred" gets split up into two keywords. So in the metadata viewer it is listed as "Fred, Friend, Smith", but if I click on the Keyword tab below the Metadata Viewer, it is still listed as "Smith; Fred" and whatever hierarchy structure listed to the left.
When I try to remove all the keywords by pressing Shift 9, all the keywords in the Keyword tabs are removed including "Smith; Fred", but in the Metadata Viewer "Fred, Smith" remains. I have to either manually remove "Fred" and "Smith", or use the Batch Change function to clear the lingering keywords.
If I add "Friend" as a keyword before I add "Smith; Fred", then "Smith; Fred" stays intact, and I can continue to add keywords without "Smith" and "Fred" getting separated.
If I add "Smith; Sally" as the first keyword, then "Smith; Fred" as the second, I get "Sally, Smith, Smith; Fred" as the result in the keyword viewer, instead of what I should get "Smith; Fred, Smith; Sally"
I can only reproduce this when using commas or semicolons. So adding "Smith, Fred" or "Smith; Fred" gives you these results. I understand that because commas are the delimiter for keywords they should be avoided.
All of these combinations do not reproduce these results and can be used without "Smith" and "Fred" becoming separated:
Smith Fred
Smith: Fred
Smith. Fred
Fred Smith
I can use "Smith Fred" or "Fred Smith" in my keyword HUD and arrange them alphabetically by last name, but I find listing last name first separated by something other than a space (preferably a comma and failing that a semicolon) much easier and better suited for my purposes. I would appreciate a fix at least for the semicolon so that I don't have to be careful about the order that I add keywords in.

To easily remove a keyword from multiple photos at one time do the following;
1 - select the photos you want to work on.
2 - bring up the Keyword pane (type Commande+K)
3 - find the keyword you want to remove (it will be in blue) and click on it. When it turns grey the keyword will be removed from all of the selected photos. You can add keywords the same way.
See if this method will permanently remove the keyword(s) from the photo.
If that doesn't help make a temporary, backup copy (if you don't already have a backup copy) of the library and try the following:
1 - delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your
User/Home()/Library/ Preferences folder.
2 - delete iPhoto's cache file, Cache.db, that is located in your
User/Home()/Library/Caches/com.apple.iPhoto folder.
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3 - launch iPhoto and try again.
NOTE: If you're moved your library from its default location in your Home/Pictures folder you will have to point iPhoto to its new location when you next open iPhoto by holding down the Option key when launching iPhoto. You'll also have to reset the iPhoto's various preferences.
If still not working launch iPhoto with the Option key held down and create a new, test library. Import some photos and check to see if the same problem persists.
OT

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