Final Cut Pro X compared to FCE4, any thoughts?

I have been using FCE4 for a while, but now I see Final Cut Pro X has been intrioduced. Is it similar to FCE, and a natural upgrade, or is it different in what it can do? Has anyone had a chance to compare them yet please? Thanks, Keith

when you say "the curent OS" do you mean Lion?
The current OS is 10.6 Snow Leopard. The next OS is 10.7 Lion.
So, maybe in a year or so you foresee that FCE will not be supported?
The upgrade cycle of the OS is lengthening as it matures. I doubt very much that 10.8 (or whatever it will be called) will turn up within a year after the launch of 10.7
The longer an app goes without an update the chances that it will not run on a new OS increses. But there is no certainty that FCE will not run on 10.8 or 10.9 or 11. Just it becomes more likely.
For the next approx two years - which will be the lifetime of 10.7 - FCE will run. There is no certainty beyond that.
But it will not be updated.
Regards
TD

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