Final Cut Studio 2 and OSX Lion issues

I tried to upgrade to Lion on my Mid-2009 MacBook Pro, but afterward I tried to startup Final Cut Pro 6 (which is part of FCS 2), only to be told that FCP6 is a PowerPC application and it wouldn't run. I don't understand this, since I have Shake 4.1 installed on the same computer, and both applications are Universal Binary; after the lion install Shake still continued to work (Shake is older than FCS2, and Motion replaced Shake) while FCP didn't! I had to wipe my haddrive and downgrade back to Snow Leopard, just to use FCP6! What gives?

Pardon the snarky reply, but from a professional editing point of view, one NEVER updates a working machine, unless something is offered in the new OS that one needs right then and there. And when one does update, one needs to do a boatload of research first, to make sure that every application they rely on is compatible with the new OS. Because if it isn't, it means the edit station cannot function properly, and that means that one cannot work and make money with that station. So ALWAYS look, and look well, before you leap.
You want to make use of iCloud, when it is "finally rolled out." OK, why not wait to update the OS until it is rolled out? You don't need it now, you need it when a feature comes available. SO use what you have until it comes, and then research to make sure things work. And if you really need iCloud, can you not just get another computer with Lion to access all of that? So that your current system can run under the OS that it works well? And yes, Studio 2 might have worked under all those previous OSes, but support for the old software will stop at some point, because Apple looks back only so far. So this might be the point where it doesn't work.
But really, FCP 6 and LION might be an issue. I do know that the INSTALLER for FCS2 is PowerPC based, and requires Rosetta, and Rosetta isn't included in Lion. Lion not working with Apple's own software? Well, yes, it does, the NEWER ones. The older software? As I said, they extend support only so far...they can't keep looking back if they want to look forward. If you want things to always work with the latest OS, then you need newer software. You cannot expect the older software do always just work...it won't.
Especially since FCP X is out...Apple doesn't give a hoot about supporting the older versions.

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I don't have the time to re-install the whole FCP shebang. But I would like to upgrade to Mountain Lion.
Ben

Thank you mishmumken ...
I remember how long it took to do the last install. And my FCP is running sooooo smoothly. And my discs are sitting in another city ... a two day drive to fetch ... or a border to cross if I have them shipped. Tsk tsk tsk.
Maybe I'll do the Mountain Lion on my laptop, to try it out ... and see if my currently installed FCP will still run properly (you do say 'it is recommended', but maybe not absolutely required, my risk). And not touch the tower, where I do most of my work anyhow.
Very much appreciated mish,
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Final Cut Studio and Mountain Lion 10.6.8 Problems

I recently upgraded to Mountain Lion 10.6.8. on my Mac Pro (upgraded from Snow Leopard).
I now realise, looking at various forums that trying to run FCP7 on ML is not straightforward, or maybe not even possible!
I have found that after updating to ML, Final Cut Pro 7 (Studio 3) would appear to run pretty much fine, but the main problem is constant 'dropped frames' warnings when running HD ProRes projects. The frequency of these 'dropped frames' freezes (every few seconds!) makes FPC7 unuseable. These HD ProRes projects ran perfectly well under Snow Loepard. In fact FCP7 was totaly stable and reliable despite constant daily hammering.
There is a lot of good ideas and information on the forums, largely talking about FCP being incompatable because ML no longer supports Power PC type installers, but there doesn't seem to be very much overall agreement.
Now that ML has been around awhile, can anyone share any definite information about FCP7 working with ML? Apple themselves maybe?
I suppose it's my own fault for not doing my homework properly before trying ML. I rely on FCP7 for my work. So I'm going to spend today clean-installing my MacPro back to Snow Loepard and re-installing everything. Oh joy!
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In reply to Maurice, yes, Mountain Lion is 10.8. In my post I mistakenly typed 10.6.8 which is Snow leopard.
For now I'm sticking to Snow Leopard. Did a ground-up reinstall and my FCP7 set-up runs perfectly again. Happy, happy!
If I had time (which I don't) it would be interesting to try a complete re-build of a Mac Pro with Mountain Lion, then install FCP7 and FCPX from scratch. I suspect that may work. Some people are saying they have no probs, but when I tried it as a upgrade (rather than a re-install) it was a mess.
Another problem with 10.8. was that my Blackmagic Intensity card would not output pictures from FCPX to my monitor, despite trying the latest drivers from BMD. This was my main reason for upgrading to Mountain Lion in the first place - I wanted to try out FCPX, but monitor output apparently only works with 10.7 onward.
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i wish to buy final cut studio and was going to buy from the apple store but they recently stopped selling i have found on amazon two final cut studios one call final cut studio and the other called final cut studio upgrade the upgrade one is cheaper so this makes me think is this just like an expansion and do i need the original but both have the same pictures, descriptions and specs so are they the same thing just with different names or what? please help

Final Cut Studio is the full install...where the UPGRADE means that it requires you to have a previous version. It is cheaper because it only works if you have a previous version.

Exporting scoring markers in Final Cut Studio and importing to Logic Pro

I want to export my scoring markers with the movie in Final Cut Studio and see them as markers in Logic Pro 7.2.x. I need to use the markers as "hit points" to calculate my tempos and effectively lay out my score based upon the action in the picture. I'm exporting the Final Cut Studio project to a Quicktime movie and choosing audio and video + "scoring markers". Thanks for your help.
TG

Don't bother rendering a movie out of LiveType, simply save the project file and import it into FCP.
LiveType outputs in the Animation codec only, so you will always have to render. Using the project file has another advantage -right clicking and choosing "Open in Editor" will drop you back into LiveType where you can quickly make adjustments, save and return to FCP with the changes in place.
To set project properties, you can use the Place Background Movie function in LiveType. Drop a short clip in and it will automatically adjust the properties to match. You can delete it once you have the settings. If you have Anamorphic video, you will still need to adjust the pixel aspect ratio -exact settings depend on the format, you haven't told us that yet.
Again, depending on the format, you might have to set the Anamorphic flag in FCP's Item Properties for the LiveType file.
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Typefaces in video:
Avoid using small, thin, delicate and Serif typefaces. They never work well.
A well known example of a Serif font is Times, which you should avoid at all costs in any case -it makes it look like you made the titles in MS Word. Stick with San Serifs with clear, bold strokes. Helvetica is a popular example of a San Serif.
If your titles are white, reduce the brightness to around 90%. Apply a shadow or border to distinguish them from the background. While it might sound counter productive, applying a tiny amount of blur can help too.
One more thing: Don't put your email address in the body of your post. The forums are open to anyone who wants to read them and by extension, web bots. They will harvest the address and bombard it with spam. We don't do personal email on the forums anyway -we share information amongst all users.

Final cut studio and space

i see that final cut studio and all the content within takes up a lot of space...can the various templates and content from motion, live type etc be installed on a separate external drive? and if so the pros and cons?
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Templates and libraries (such as for Motion, DVD Studio Pro, Soundtrack Pro, Livetype, etc.) can be installed to an external drive during the install process. We do that for laptop installations.
It's best to always keep the applications in the Applications folder according to Pro support, but you can move the libraries anywhere you want or not install them at all.
If you do move them manually you can go into each application's preferences and set the location for the moved content. It won't harm them at all.

Final Cut Studio and Snow Leopard

Does anyone know if the Grand Central Dispatch ability has been programmed into Final Cut Studio for activation after the release of Snow Leopard on 8/28?

>Those dimensions didn't come from DV. Nor did the codec. The provenance of the material seems very murkey.
That's most likely JVC's HDV flavor...it's 720p, and HDV is MPEG-2.
Yeah, that's a big issue hitting a lot of people who captured HDV, and then upgraded to LION. The files were unreadable...
http://forums.creativecow.net/thread/8/1140902

Trying to install Final Cut Studio on my Lion Notebook

Hey guys,
I bought a MacBook Pro with Lion on it but I can't seem to install Final Cut Studio 2 without Rosetta. I have the Final Cut Studio 3 upgrade discs which are universal but I cant install FCS3 without first installing FCS2. Anyone have any ideas?

> Will I run into any issues if I install Final Cut Studio 3 to run in conjunction with Final Cut X?<
That's been a running topic and I've found the posted discussions to be mutually exclusive. Maybe it depends on the hardware platform. Dunno. Might search the FCPX forum too.
Please post back if you figure it out with your own experiences.
bogiesan

Final Cut Studio 2 / Mountain Lion

Hi!
I've spent most of my day reading through several posts and I am now totally confused. Here's my issue. I just purchased a new Mac Book Pro with Mountain Lion. I also purchased Final Cut Studio 2 / FCP 6. I was unaware that this version needed Rosetta to be installed on my new mab Book Pro. I'm trying to find the simplest way to get up and running. Can I just buy an upgrade to FCP version 7? Or will I run into the same problem? I figure that since I am buying the upgrade, I may not have to even install FCP 6...as long as I have the Serial. I also understand that Apple only supports FCPX on Mountain Lion, but from what I understand, the issues seem to be just installing. Any help with this?
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>Can I just buy an upgrade to FCP version 7?
If you can find one on eBay, Amazon etc. Apple discontinued FCS 16 months ago.
>Or will I run into the same problem?
FCS 2009 (with FCP 7) has an Intel installer.
>I may not have to even install FCP 6...as long as I have the Serial.
Correct.
>I also understand that Apple only supports FCPX on Mountain Lion,
I run FCS 2009 without issues on ML. You will get better support on this forum than any offered by the iLife experts staffing the Genius Bar.

Final cut studio and leopard

i need to know if final cut 5 (final cut studio) will run with leopard os x

While I think that Leopard is a fine new OS, and I love it, I CANNOT RECOMMEND that you install it on a Production machine. There are just too many reports of issues, and really, Leopard adds nothing to the Final Cut Suite. New versions of the OS are notorious for not working with everything...and currently it DOES NOT work with many Adobe products. There are also many third party devices that may need to be checked into, like ATTO cards, eSATA cards, Firewire cards, capture cards....many many things.
If you have a good working machine, stick with Tiger. The new OS is nice and slick, but has YET to get a clean bill of health for any version of Final Cut Studio.
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Is Motion 3.0 compatible with Final Cut Studio-7 on Lion?

I was just wondering if the Motion on Final Cut Pro works on Lion for the iMac because it seems to freeze when I open it and when I try to reinstall I can't locate it. Does anyone know what the problem is, or have a solution for me? thanks for the help.

It is Final Cut Studio 3 or Final Cut Pro 7 and yes it woarks fine in snow or lion

Final cut 6 on osx lion?

Ok so i have brand new MacBook Air 13". i have final cut x but i really want to install my disc copy of final cut studio 2, is there anyway to either reinstal snow leopard or install final cut studio 2 on osx lion? i have tried installing on lion using remote disk on my imac, but it doesnt work.

I would do a search on this, there are so many threads. Basically if you want to use FCS2 with Lion you will need to install Rossetta from your SL disc. I believe you will also have to put your FCS apps into a seperate folder in your applications folder as there will be a conflict with FCPX.
As I said, do a search.
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Final Cut Studio 2 / OS Lion

I just bought a new iMac anticipating that I would be able to use my employer's copy of Final Cut Studio 2.
This evidently is not the case at all.
The end result I am seeking is really to have a decent editing program along with compressor or something comparable with which to export. Motion would be great, but I wouldn't be torn up, as long as I had something better than iMovie with which to edit.
My question is in my situation what would be the most cost effective plan (without purchasing Final Cut Studio X or spending more than the cost of the new 21.5'' iMac I purchased)?
- Return the computer and look for a used Mac with Snow Leopard?
- Would a FCS 3 upgrade even work, if I could find one?
- I don't necessarily understand the specifics of the PowerPC dilemma, and is this a hardware problem with new iMacs? That is, if I used a different operating system, such as linux on the new iMac would I be able to load FCS 2?
I have looked around a few times through Message Boards, but haven't seemed to find anything on a user who has purchased a new iMac with the factory preset as OS Lion.
Any suggestions or leads would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!

Cool Nick. I came across your post later. I'm not really a big tech guy so I was hoping there was an easy fix but at least you're providing an option.
I'm shocked that Apple would do this (not allow FC6 to work on Lion). For a company that prides itself on being very consumer friendly and making life simple....this *****. I spent $1,800 + CDN thinking ya, let's go the legit route and actually buy software that will last me a few years but now I have this cool looking Apple box which I may end up using as a foot stool!
Hope you tech guys can figure something out or even better....maybe someone at Apple will fix this!
Love
Jazz

Final Cut Studio 5 on Lion

Hi Everybody,
A few years ago I bought the very expensive complete Final Cut Studio 5.
Is it true that this can not be installed on the latest Lion 10.8.2 ?
If so what a waste of money as I find Final Cut Pro X pretty basic and definitely not as professional as FCP5 and later versions.
Thanks for your insights.
Abyss Images

Thoughts....
FCP 5 being expensive: Back when it was sold, it was one of the cheapest professional options out there. Cheaper than Avid...cheaper than Adobe Creative suite.
Age: FCP 5 is 6+ years old. First off, in terms of monitary return, you should have easily made up the cost of the application by now, if you use it to earn a living. Recouped your cost.
Second...6+ years in terms of software is VERY old. Asking it to run on current OS software...no matter what app and OS we are talking about...is asking a lot. This is one reason many software companies don't upgrade their OS...to remain compatible with the software they need. This will run perfectly fine on an older machine running 10.3, through 10.6. And if it is FCP 5.1, it will work on Intel macs. If it is 5.0...it will only run on PowerPCs, so you will be stuck needing to use a G5 or other PowerPC mac.
Options:
- Find a copy of FCP 7 (Final Cut Studio 3) on ebay. Sorry, it won't be cheap either...the asking price I'm finding matches what it initially sold for. Very in demand app.
- Look at Adobe CS 6...Premiere Pro CS6 if you only want the app. You don't need to shell out $1700 all at once if you want, there's the Creative Cloud that enables you to rent it for $50 a month. That's $600 a year...and all the upgrades are free as long as you do that.
- Look at Avid Symphony or Media Composer. There is crossgrade pricing for FCP users.
http://community.avid.com/forums/t/114517.aspx
- Stick to an older machine and older OS if you insist on sticking with FCP 5. It will work fine. It just won't be state of the art, and won't work with a majority of newer cameras.

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Please, sorry for my english.
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¿Any Solution?
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Cinema Tools is crashing on my brand new MacBook Pro as well. I can reinstall everything but FCP. However, reinstalling Cinema Tools has not solved anything. It still won't open.

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