Final Cut Studio 2 on a MBP

I have a couple questions regarding the MBP capability and performance when working with all the programs in FC studio 2. Thanks ahead of time to any and all of you who reply, your knowledge is greatly appreciated.
Please keep in mind all of these questions are in regards to performance or capability with final cut studio 2.
I am very set on a MBP as opposed to the mac pro desktop, but does the MBP have any hick ups when trying to work in any of FC studio 2?
From what I have read most people say the 2.4 to 2.6 upgrade is not worth it is this still true if you plan on working in FC studio 2?
I plan on purchasing a 2 gig model and adding 2 more gigs my self, any recommendations as far as a company or site or both is again greatly appreciated.
15 inch or 17 inch, and why or why not?
160GB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm or 200GB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm, again why or why not?
From what I have read you want to go with antiglare as opposed to glossy because it throws off the true color, is this correct?
Is the higher resolution upgrade for the 17inch worth it?
thank you again,
John

hi lots of questions hope this helps
i have the MBP 2.4 15 inch
i have not found any problems with my MBP so far except the size of the hdd once ive installed all my apps i found with a lo o customizing out 0f my 160gb i have about 40gb left after i installed everything including the full FCS-2
the speed is great not as good as a mac pro tho but it is a portable compatible tho.
i have upgraded my 2gb to 4gb you will need to buy 2x 2gb sodimm sticks i found mine on ebay quite cheap and a decent make aswell. it does help with booting up and FCP running.
i have the 15 inch as it is easier to carry round to uni and clients, 17 inch is big and bulky
200gb would be better but 160gb will do, use a external hdd as a scratch disk the bigger the better and firewire 400 atleast 800 is better
yes the glossy screen will do funny things with the picture and shine in day light, glossy is great for watching dvd's but not editing.
the higher res would be great but you can get away with a 15 inch res but FCS color does work best with a HD res screen
all in all i hope that helps
have fun

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Thanks for your quick response and for the reassurance, my responses back...
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What sorts of things did you want to work on?
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Music videos, small projects to start with. I've come from working with Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 on Windows XP on a 30minute documentary that took 18months part and fulltime to produce with 3 staff (http://www.youtube.com/mediamotioninvision for a clip of it). I feel the next level up would be to work with what many professionals are using: Final Cut Studio, as I was told at Cannes Film Festival in 2009. So to progress my craft I want to develop the skillset of the professionals.
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You also have to consider the i/o issue. How will you get footage in and out of the machine to an external drive and from a firewire camera if you go that route?
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Many film/video cameras, both low end/entry level consumer prosumer and higher end professional are recording onto solid state flash memory cards, e.g. SD. So transferring from that into the notebook is straightforward. This used to be more of an issue with tape-based cameras, as the footage transfer was real time and dropped frames could occur if the host recieving notebook could not handle the amount of data be sent from the camera, e.g due to slow hard drive/bus.
That said, even though solid state media eliminates the problem of dropped frames due to real time transfer of tape, it is a profound crying shame of a misguided decision that Apple decided to omit the ExpressCard34 interface (and therefore block high-speed eSATA/RAID hard drive options) from the 'Pro' range of 13" and 15" MacBookPros and reserve it for the 17", when the equivalent Windows notebooks have this for half the price.
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