Final Cut Studio & Logic Studio upgrade issue

I am mainly audio based but have been working on projects more recently with Final Cut Studio 2 to deal with the video. As I use both Logic Studio 8 and Soundtrack Pro 2 a lot, and Final Cut Pro less, I plumped for the upgrade to Logic Studio which also contains STP 3 and Compressor 3.5 which seemed the right thing to do.
However the install info and dvd doesn't want you to install STP 3 or Compressor 3.5 if you have Final Cut Studio 2 as they "contain updated components that are incompatible with Final Cut Studio 2 or earlier. If the Logic Studio installer detects Final Cut Studio 2 or earlier on your system, it automatically deselects the checkboxes for Soundtrack Pro and Compressor in the Custom Install pane."
Personally I didn't want to run to the expense of upgrading Final Cut as I don't use Motion, Colour or Cinema Tools and although I am working heavily in DVD Studio Pro they haven't done anything to upgrade that application (boo!)
So what's the deal? Am I unable to upgrade ST Pro to version 3 and also unable to benefit from the upgraded Compressor even though I've actually paid for an upgrade that promised me these options, and no mention until I'd opened the package that there would be any incompatibility issues with Final Cut Studio 2!
Anyone know what these 'incompatible components' are?
Sounds like sharp practice and bad product integration to me...

I just spoke with someone in Apple Reseller Channel Sales and he told me that what is shipping now is strictly the Universal version. So, if you order a Final Cut Studio Upgrade from FCP HD ($699 retail, IIRC), you will receive the FCS Universal version in the big box with all the docs.

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Final Cut and Logic Studio

I have a MacBook with:
Processor-2.1 GHz Intel Core Duo
Memory-1 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM
Question: A) Can I run Final Cut Studio 2 and/or Logic Studio
B) If not, will a timecapsule or mimi mac give me the power needed?

First of all, you'd need to install more RAM to run either program. Both programs require a MINIMUM of 1gb of RAM, so if you run either program, there'd be no RAM available for the OS or any background processes. So yes, it would slow your computer down to a crawl ... if not a crash.
There is no way to connect any Firewire device to the new MacBooks. So no FW control surfaces for Logic Studio and no way to connect a tape based camcorder or FW hard drive for external storage.
Motion and Color probably wouldn't even install due to the weak graphics card and shared RAM.
Also, keep in mind that Apple officially doesn't support FCS on the MacBook at all. Essentially, the MacBook is not designed for editing. But hey ... it's your money.
-DH

I had downloaded and used Final Cut Pro 7 (studio 3) on my mac, but it died. Can I download it to my new computer without buying a new copy? I'm not sure of the number of installations for academic copies. How would I do this?

I had downloaded and used Final Cut Pro 7 (studio 3) on my mac, but it died. Can I download it to my new computer without buying a new copy? I'm not sure of the number of installations for academic copies. How would I do this?

AH...good.
There is no limit on the times you can install it from the DVDs. There's just a limit as to being able to run it on multiple machines AT THE SAME TIME. If your old computer dies, or you sell it (please reformat the drive so they don't get FCP for free), then you can install on a new computer fine. And you are allowed to install on (1) desktop and (1) laptop at the same time as well...but only use it on one machine at any given time. Meaning you can use it on the desktop at work, and then when away from the office, on your laptop.
Long story short...you can install it fine without any issues.

Final Cut Pro 2 Studio CORPORATE EDITION ???

i am looking to buy final cut from someone on craigslist - they say that it is a CORPORATE VERSION of FINAL CUT PRO 2 STUDIO - i asked if it was transferable and they said that i could not register it in my name but i would be able to upgrade it - is this true ?? - should i stay away

'Corporate' is a code word among warz dudes and dudettes. It's supposed to mean you can install it and not get caught for using an invalid serial number.
In this case, I suspect the seller is trying to give the impression the SN is a Volume License, usually purchased by corporations. That's why you would not be able to register it, and also the why you would not be able to upgrade it.
Run away from this one. It's a scam.

I have a newer MacBook Pro and I am trying to download my Final Cut Pro 7 Studio 2 on it. Is that possible or does the new MacBook Pro not support anything other than Final Cut Pro X?

I have a newer MacBook Pro and I am trying to download my Final Cut Pro 7 Studio 2 on it. Is that possible or does the new MacBook Pro not support anything other than Final Cut Pro X?

As Tom said the FCS forum is the better place to post the question.
Here is Apple's best practices doc for installing both on the same system.
BTW, FCP7 is part of the FCS 3 suite of apps.
Russ

Final Cut Pro 5 Studio Installation

Is there a work around to install Final Cut Pro 5 Studio to another drive other than the Applications folder on the Start-up Disk? I have 2 LaCie 500 Gb hard drives available via Firewire 800.
Between the operating system with iLife, Final Cut Pro 5 Studio, and Garage Band Rythem Pack, 60 Gb of this laptops 100 Gb hard drive is already used.
And lastly, if not possible to load in another hard drive, is the content for each application (such as templates) where most of the space is being taken up? I see that when loading, I had the option to load these to a custom location.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thank You

/Users/Shared contains all the templates and media for Motion (5.91 GB). /Library/Application Support/ contains folders for LiveType (10.93 GB), DVD Studio Pro (8.7 GB), and Sound Track Pro (315 MB).
Patrick

Pro App Serial Problem - Final Cut Studio Logic Studio and Soundtrack

Installed Logic Studio 8
then
Installed Final Cut Studio - Academic
both include Soundtrack.
now Soundtrack has the academic splash screen.
If i wanted to... how can i assign soundtrack to my logic studio serial?
would i have to reinstall soundtrack? is there any situation where this would matter?
i don't know.
thanks everyone.

If i wanted to... how can i assign soundtrack to my logic studio serial?
would i have to reinstall soundtrack? is there any situation where this would matter?
I wouldn't worry about it. The program is exactly the same whether it thinks it's an academic version or not, and I can't think of any other reason why this would make any difference.
If you really wanted to see whether you could get it connected back to Logic, go to HD/Library/Application Support/Pro Apps, and dump the file that says 'Logic Studio System ID.' This is the file that holds your Logic serial number. Next time you load Logic, put your serial number in again and it will create a new Logic Studio System ID file. When you do this it will make the Logic System ID file newer than the FC System ID file, and maybe Soundtrack will be connected to this one instead of FC's. But again, don't worry about it - it really makes no difference at all.

Final Cut missing from Studio 5 installation

It took over an hour to install Final Cut Studio (purchased 5 academic licenses) and lots of disk shuffling. At the end of it all, the Final Cut application itself is missing. Or is it me that is missing? Something?

quite possibly. I would think if it's greyed out the app that checks your system to see that it can be installed is saying no it can't. However if it allowed "motion" to be installed it might not be the gfx card but a ram or other issue. Motion does its work via the gfx card as do the fxplug plugins in FCP Studio. since you bought so many licenses I'd call apple and try to resolve the issue. It's gonna cost you something above that which you budgeted however it's a great set of tools

Aperture and other Pro Applications ( Final Cut, Motion, DVD Studio Pro )

Hi folks,
I have bought Final Cut Studio a while back, and have been working with all the tools for a while now ( FCP, Motion and DVD Studio Pro ). Recently I also switched to Aperture to manage / capture / organise my digital photographs ( previously I used iPhoto ).
Now I was wondering how I could use the pictures from my Aperture library in Motion or DVD Studio Pro. When I look at the file Browser, I can easily use some iPhoto pictures, but apparently I can't seem to find anything for Aperture.
What I would like to do is use some pictures from Aperture in a Motion project and also include an Aperture album in DVD Studio as a SlideShow.
What would be the best way to do this ? Do I have to export the pictures I want to use ? Or am I missing something ?
Regards,
Stefaan

Stefaan,
Unfortunately, that type of integration between the Pro Apps is not there (yet). It would definitely be a nice feature to have. We should all send feedback to Apple asking for this feature. For now, you will need to export photos for use in these other apps.
Along the same lines, I would also like to see integration with Aperture and the "iLife" programs. Since Aperture will likely replace iPhoto for at least some of us, it would be nice to be able to use Aperture photos in these apps as well.
--Joe

Major Problem with audio from Final Cut to DVd Studio Pro

I am posting this problem again because no further responses have been received regarding my first post. I purchased an MR-HD100 Firestore device from Focus Enhancements. When I use clips from it alone or with other clips created by digitizing from min DV tape on a sequence or timeline the audio works fine in Final Cut. When I import any type of file and believe me I have been trying all kinds of suggestions and wasting almost a dozen DVDs. Whether it be a Final Cut QT file, going straight to compressor and producing an MPEG-2 file and a dolby audio file .ac3 importing them into DVD SP and making the adjustments that MR. Harbsmeier suggested DIAL NORM at -31dbfs and COMPRESSION MODE to NONE, as well as the suggestion to make an aif file with the audio and importing it into DVD SP as well as the video. I get the same result with every try, the clips made with the firestore are so low you cannot hear them. NOTHING WORKS!!!!. And yes I have tried making a DVD with just digitized footage and yes it turned out fine. I called Apple support today and that gentlemen basically told me I am out of warranty so phone help was not available. However, he made a suggestion of changing sequence presets in Final Cut which has now developed into another problem. I have messed up my settings so bad I don't know where I am I can't LOG & CAPTURE in the manner I used to ???? Could someone please advise as to why this problem exists and the correction to resolve it. I do not understand why the audio works fine playing the sequence on the timeline in Final Cut. It plays fine after making a Final Cut QT file. AND it plays fine in simulation mode in DVD Studio Pro. However after you burn a DVD the audio from the firestore clips are not to be heard unless you crank up the speakers or TV to it's maximum level and you can barely make it out. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP ME Projects are stacking up and was really hoping to go tapeless

Try building the project to your desktop and then open the Video_TS in the Mac DVD player application.
How does it play/sound? This application is the best way to see and hear how your burned DVD should play vs. just using simulator and burning.
Just to clarify- are you taking your FC QT file into Compressor and creating a MPG-2 and AC3 file or are you bringing your FC QT directly into DSP?
What codec are you exporting from FC? ProRes422, DV, H264?
Open the FC QT in QT and apple+I to see this.
What does it say for audio?

How to import subtitles made with Final Cut in DVD studio Pro?

Hello!
I made subtitles for a movie directly on a track of my final cut timeline. How can I import now this into DVD studio pro to make an independant subtitle track?
thank you.

DVD Studio Pro can work with STL subtitle files. they are nothing more spectacular than a plain text file.
There's a ton of information in DVDSP's online manual, under the Help menu bar item.
search that pdf for "Creating an STL Format Subtitle File".
This file can be configured to display when the user wants to see it or made permanent with the "Force Display" option.
If you export your FCP Timeline the subtitles on it will be burned into the video permanently.

FINAL CUT AND DVD STUDIO PRO 4

One quick question is it alright to transfer a project into final cut pro while you have a project in dvd studio pro 4 doing the asset incoding, It seems to be working ok but wasnt sure if that would mess up anything in the encoding,
thanks Bill

It shouldn't make a diifference in the encoding. I usually use Compressor instead for a few reasons I can explain if you are interested. But in answer to your question, the encode should be fine under these circumstances. The only iissue you might expect to encounter would be dropped frames during playback in FCP, because the encoding process might be using the same drive, both reading and writing, and perhaps even the same files, as the media FCP is trying to play back. Shouldn't hurt anything, though.
Hope this helps -
Max Average

Please, suggestion about final cut x, dvd studio pro, sound track and color

what to do now, final cut studio cannot exist in same partition of fc x, but at same time fcx does not have anymore dvd studio pro, color and soundtrack, is it replacing the 3 programs? are you really satisfied of it?

Try building the project to your desktop and then open the Video_TS in the Mac DVD player application.
How does it play/sound? This application is the best way to see and hear how your burned DVD should play vs. just using simulator and burning.
Just to clarify- are you taking your FC QT file into Compressor and creating a MPG-2 and AC3 file or are you bringing your FC QT directly into DSP?
What codec are you exporting from FC? ProRes422, DV, H264?
Open the FC QT in QT and apple+I to see this.
What does it say for audio?

Re-installing just final cut... (studio 2)

hello,
I just did a full format of my machine last night. installed final cut and did all the updates.
Final cut doesnt have the right icon and I tried to put in the disc to reinstall just final cut and it doesnt give me an option to uncheck everything else... or select just FCP...
any ideas?

I used a program called pacifist to reinstall parts of the packages.
I got pretty much everything working...
just one more issue...
I cant install Quicktime 7 Pro because Quicktime X is already present...
That also means I lose all the QT Pro features.... any idea how to fix that?

Final Cut Pro / Logic Pro Don't Work with MacBook Pro

I think it's pretty bad public relations that Apple would knowingly sell a new product that does not work with Logic 7.1 or Final Cut Studio, and not bother to tell you.
We found out the hard way when after a post-production editor spent 3 hours trying to reinstall the discs and called an Apple Support center. They informed us that because of Intel Chips we needed to replace our software completely and pay Apple a fee of $50 per title for this benefit.
I can live with spending $100 for software which is less than 1 year old (although I think Apple will be sued over this one if not their pathetic support of iPod batteries) but why is so hard for Apple Computers as a company to advise customers when software doesn't work?
For Apple to call this product a "Pro" product and support it with such pathetic disdain for the client and to not advise their so-called 'geniuses' of this (dare I use the word) "glitch" is really hilarious.
To 'fix' this problem, go to
http://www.apple.com/universal/crossgrade/
G5 1.8GHz / G4 17" 1.67GHz / MB Pro 2.16GHz +2GRAM Mac OS X (10.4.7)

I don't know what's worse, the fact that some of the replies here are completely immature and stupid, or the fact that some of you have hundreds of posts meaning that you don't seem to do anything else all day except stare at the Apple website and look for things to pick at.
I have a right as a consumer to complain, and no, this doesn't equate to buying beachfront property or the number of children I have relative to rooms in my house, it equates to whether or not Apple, as a company, feels it is important to notify customers in a meaningful way of changes within their product offerings.
I'm happy you all seem to have nothing else to do all day except stare at the Apple website, I personally would rather stare at that beachfront property in Big Sur.

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