Final Cut Studio or Adobe Production Premium Suite - which should we buy?

Hi all
Upfront, I'm not trying to start any flame wars here. My design studio is for the first time investing in video hardware and software. Most of the stuff we'll be doing will be for use on the web or DVD.
I'm not an expert on video so I'm just trying to get some useful opinions on the relative merits of Final Cut Studio and Adobe Production Premium Suite. We're entirely Mac based, so we have the choice of either.
Any thoughts and recommendations most welcome.
PS I'll be posting this exact question on the Adobe forums also.

hey there mpjx,
since this is an Apple Discussion, i'm inclined to say FCS.... it's less expensive & is complete solution start to finish for movie making, but you may want/need to get After Effects & other Adobe products to work w/ Flash media. however Adobe CS includes After Effects, Illustrator & some other things for working w/ Flash media. so get what may provide the most bang for your budget.... if you don't need everything in Adobe CS, go FCS & get the Adobe products(Illustrator, After Effects, etc...) you want/need as it occurs.
good luck.

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