FInal Cut X and 3rd Party Plugins from Previous Versions

will they be compatible?
i've got plenty of 3rd party plugins i've normally used with fcp 6.
will i be able to use them with fcp x ? or is it a completely new platform?
cheers.

I've said it elsewhere, but using FCX is like being asked to carve a roast and being handed knife purposely dulled to keep me from hurting myself.
However, while it is not a viable tool for the broadcast professional, I am sure there are many professionals who can use it to do their job.
To the OP, FCP 6 plugins, will work in FCP 7.
BenB wrote:
...snip...
As for plugins, FCP X uses a whole new underlying framework, totally, radically different technologies under the hood than legacy FCP 7 versions. So those plugin developers will have to port their wares over to the new platform.
...snip...
This is in fact, largely untrue. FCX effects are Motion wrappers, often interfaces directly to FxPlug plugins that have been around since Motion started. The FxPlug plugins developed for earlier versions of the software need to be rebuilt with the new frameworks and Motion wrappers constructed, but FxPlug 2 is not radically different technology from FxPlug 1.2.5.
Patrick

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When the plugin windows are closed, there is no delay.
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Sometimes the MIDI notes get stuck and continue playing until they are pushed again.
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Hey Rob,
I opened up the Activity Monitor, and CPU usage in Logic Express is 35-40% with the plugin window open and between 16-20% with it closed.
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Perhaps there is something off with the CPU meter in Logic Express 7, though.
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