Find/change using end of paragraph marker /p

Folks,
We are attempting to remove a space at the end of a paragraph in unstructured documents. If I enter ' \p' in the Find text field in the Find/Change dialog FrameMaker finds the the appropriate paragraphs. If I then enter '\p' in the Change text field in the Find/Change dialog and click Change the space is removed. However the target paragraphs style is also applied to the the following paragraph. This occurs in FrameMaker 8,9 & 10.
If the Find/Change scenario above is followed with these two paragraphs the first paragraphs style is applied to the second paragraph.
paragraph 1 with a trailing space and using Heading 1 style
paragraph 2 using Heading 2 style
Any thoughts?
regards
Jon

JonEBe wrote:
Arnis,
Thanks!
Yes why bother indeed! I am at the end of a rather lengthy process to convert the creation and output of Framemaker documents into a database with a web front end. As part of this the existing documents are imported to save lengthy keying/rekeying. The output from the system is then compared against the originals. As a matter of course I stripped of leading or trailing spaces (it is amazing how many there are in a manually created/updated document) so we therefore have noisy comparison documents as a result.
BTW the trailing spaces are apparently a legacy of the conversion from WordPerfect.
My choices are to re-import without stripping the trailing space and remove them at a later date or create a script using the FDK, which I am very familiar with, and is the likely outcome!
Jon
Just a wild thought - a real GREP processor, not the mild imitation in FrameMaker, can find a construction like a space followed by a paragraph marker and delete the space without affecting the marker. The technique is a form of the "lookbehind" or "lookahead" feature. I'm zero-skilled at actually doing this beyond just mentioning it, but the technique might work in a MIF, or text conversion, of the file. Search Google for terms like "GREP lookbehind lookahead," without quotes.
Another possibility is that once the FrameMaker file is converted to the database, it would be possible to use a database command to remove the space.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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You are correct but the problem is there are three rows, One row is 100% black, the second is 60% black and the third is 40% black. I want to change the black to blue, the 60% black to an orange and the 40% black to a light shaded blue. In the find/change option you can select the tint you want to find and replace but yea.. does work on table cells.. oddly enough.

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