Finder sort issue

I seem to be having a sorting issue.
This order seems odd to me, but like to get your opinions about it.
(This folder is sorted alphabetically by file name.)
2008 01.doc
2008 02.doc
Activiteit_oktober.doc
af 200802 - groen reserve.rtf
af 200802 - groen.rtf
af 20071130 - groen-geel.doc
af 20080126 - groen.rtf
af 20080216 avond - leiding WE.pages
af 20080704 avond - groen & oranje.pages
af 20080709 avond - bezinning.rtf
idee spel.rtf
In my logic the file 'af 20071130 - groen-geel.doc' should be before the two files beginning with 'af 200802' and not after. Or is this just me?

In my logic the file 'af 20071130 - groen-geel.doc' should be before the two files beginning with 'af 200802' and not after. Or is this just me?
OS X Finder sorts strings of digits according to their value, not digit by digit. 200802 is less than 20071130. Here is a note on the issue:
http://homepage.mac.com/thgewecke/sorting.html

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