Finding pantone colors numbers

Is there a way to get the pantone color from AI that matches with tehe pantone flip book?

cj,
The Pantone libraries should load when you install (which depend on which version).
Have you just installed?
It may be worth considering uninstalling, running the Cleaner Tool, and reinstalling.
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

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Finding Pantone Colors By Number In The Palette

I just upgraded to CS3 and have a question. In CS1 when I needed to find a specific pantone color I would go to the pantone solid coated palette and at the top there was a box labeled "find" where I could type in the number and it would bring me to the color I needed.
In CS3 there is no find box and I have to scroll through to find the number I want. Am I missing something here? I want to be able to quickly find them by typing in the number, not by scrolling through a list.
Any help would be appreciated.
Paul W.

In that same palette, there should be a flyout menu. One item should be Show Find Field.
(I'm on CS2 which does indeed have this item. I'm guessing CS3 has the same?)

Finding Pantone colors

I just got a new Pantone swatch book but can't figure out how to add some colors in InDesign. Most of the colors are available, but some (for example 7726U and nearby numbers) do not show up in the swatch libraries in the software. I've tried CS3 and CS4.
Any ideas how to get these colors?

If you're adding it as a Spot colour - then you're most likely getting it printed on a printing press.
A spot colour will use a different press. If you select a very similar colour the one you want - but in the Swatches rename it to Pantone 7726U
All this does is make it a separate spot colour - which will output on a separate plate.
If it's going to be printed digitally or as a 4 colour job (no spot colours) then use the CMYK equivalent of the Pantone 7726U
But for a spot colour that will be printed separately - you don't have to have the exact colour - the Spot colour name will appear on the separations.
You can communicate this to the Printers and make it 100% clear what colour you want and what you have done.
The reason for picking a similar colour is in case you need to publish this digitally also.
But for printing all that matters is that printer know what Ink to use when they're printing it.

How to find out color numbers

Hey everyone
Just wondering how to find out the color number codes in iweb?
Thanks
Bevan

Bevan are you talking about the Hex values? Like #3C3C3C?
I have to know those values as well when I'm creating stuff in Photoshop. I use Art Director's Took Kit to do that. I use the magnifying glass to capture the color from iWeb and then copy the hex value it gives me.
I'm not sure if iWeb's color picker gives hex values - haven't found it yet if it does. But that's how I do it. Art Director's Tool Kit came with my Mac so you should have it as well.

Pantone Matching numbers (how to find them???)

Printer is asking for PMS numbers She says..... In Illustrator. Pantone Matching numbers. Your art department has to know what those are.
I can't figure out how to get them... Do all colors have a PMS number? I'm using a red and a blue color and I can only seem to get CMYK values on them...

Pengh,
Have a look here:
Jacob Bugge, "PMS Codes - Color Codes" #15, 4 Mar 2008 9:13 am.
If you have CS3 or CS4, look at post #4 in that thread.

Can I replace Pantone color books in InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop?

These new Pantone + books are a pain in ...well... you understand. In my years as a designer, I have just clicked on the correct book and color swatch, but now...
I am using Windows 7 and the CS6 suite of products. We have a company logo in which both main colors have dramatically changed with the new books. I won't go into all of the tricks we've tried to be able to place it in new documents without the color changing. I now think the only answer is to replace the color books as Adobe recommends. I do have two questions, though.
First, can I change the books in all of my products? Adobe only gives instructions for Illustrator and InDesign, but I regularly have to change vendor logos into our company colors in photoshop, and I am finding the color in Photoshop isn't the same when I bring that logo into Illustrator, even though they have the same number.
Second, what are the end results if I do change the books when I send a document to a printer? We usually do our printing in-house, so I am wondering when we buy PMS 2955 if it will be what I see in the old books or the new books. And what will an out-of-house printer be using?
My main two concerns are (1) seeing the correct color on screen and (2) printing the correct color. I don't really care how I get there, but I'd like it to be a permanent fix so I don't have to go in and manipulate swatches every time I add a logo to an item.
Thanks for any help!
BTW - haven't been to this new forum format and don't know if I am posting this in the right place. If not, please help me find the correct location. Thanks!

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Its very informative but somehow i felt it lacks the punch and fun factor in a video. I need something which captivates and entrances the audience, not a speech kind of a thing.
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Illustrator CS4, new Pantone color books, color channel issue

Since I installed the new Pantone color books, I've been running in a major issue which will affect our whole production line.
If an Illustrator CS4 file contains a Photoshop CS4 image which is using an "old" Pantone color in a color channel, it cannot be opened and I get an error message "File is unreadable". If I replace the "old" Pantone colour with its new equivalent in the color channel in Photoshop, the file can be opened normally.
In our work environment, this means going through all our images to check which one is using a color channel. A painful and time wasting procedure. Furthermore, if one of our suppliers doesn't have the new color books, they won't be able to open any of the files, both Photoshop and Illustrator, so they have no way to revert back to the old Pantone.
Is there another way to fix this?
Thank you

More on the Pantone PLUS saga, hoping to get some input from the users of this forum. I find their silence deafening, to say the least. This is a serious issue, that will cost our agency hours and hours of work if it isn't addressed. And we've already wasted hours of troubleshooting and discussions on how we could resolve it.
We're actually testing a workaround: using both the old and the new libraries in Illustrator. After consulting our suppliers, we've learned that this is what they also do. For them, it's a one shot to get the file to print. For us, it means cheating with files that will get edited again in the future. And the Pantone installer removes the old Pantone books from the Adobe folders for a reason which is mentioned on the download page:
The reason that the PANTONE Color Libraries that had been built into Illustrator need to be removed and replaced with the PANTONE PLUS Color Libraries is that, in Illustrator, a PANTONE Color can only have one data point with which it is associated. In the short term, in order to benefit from the new colors and data associated in PLUS, the PANTONE Libraries that are installed with Adobe Illustrator are removed and replaced with the new PLUS Libraries.
http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1
I worry this may lead to another bunch of issue, knowing how easily AI files get corrupted. What I need to know is:
What is the exact meaning of the Pantone warning about the "one data point per color?
What are the long term implications of using both Pantone libraries in an Adobe file? Or in the Adobe app?

Illustrator CS6 / CC and previous Pantone color books

Hi all, I've understood that Illustrator CS6 / CC has the new Pantone+ color books, those color books doesn't have CMYK values so the default of rIllustrator CS6 / CC is to use the Lab values when I add a Pantone swatches to my document. One of my customers, that is a print industry, need to have the old Pantone with CMYK values to maintain the same color rendition on old and continuative jobs. Adobe says that I can load the old Pantone color books from CS5 and change the swatches option so that Illustrator use the CMYK values: http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.html The problem is that this doesn't work for me and for my customer, even if I change the swatches option Illustrator continue to load only the Lab values from the older CS5 Pantone color books... anyone of you has a solution?

I am running into the same issue. Both links suggested did not work for me. In a document I created in CS4 (the old document) and opened in CC there is a square with the color Pantone 519U in which it converts to C:67% M:100% Y:30% K:10%. These are the numbers to be expected. If I copy the square that is 519U in the old document and paste it in the same old document the color remains the same.
I create a new document in CC (the new document). From the old document I copy the Pantone 519U square and paste it in the new document. The resulting square in the new document is a washed out purple. The new document square converts to C:57.27% M:68.83% Y:35.06% K:13.06%.
Again I followed Workaround 1 in the link. I obtained the old Pantone Libraries from my CS4 machine so it is not a library issue. I have also created a new Document Profile where I set the Spot Color to be "Use CMYK values from the manufacturer's process books". I am seeing the same problem before and after the workaround.

How to find the Color Space name for a PDEElement

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after the code. I belive the color spaces should be something like CMYK, DeviceRGB,DeviceGray..etc.
How can I know the actual color space name coresponding to these numbers printed in Debug statements.
Kindly please help me..
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                             element = PDEContentGetElem(content, i);
                             ProcessElementDetails(element);
Debug statements with color numbers:
====================================
ProcessElementDetails
PDE Image type
Color Space :700
ProcessElementDetails
PDE Text type
Number of Runs for PDEText :63
Color Space :388
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :388
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :388
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
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Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
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Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
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ProcessElementDetails
ProcessElementDetails
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Color Space :389
Color Space :700
Color Space :390
Color Space :388
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Color Space :388
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
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Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
Color Space :390
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Color Space :700
Color Space :700
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Pantone color not included in Illustrator?

Hello,
I am looking for a Pantone color close to #303030.
Every converter I found gives me Pantone 29 as the closest match which is #332E2E but in Adobe Illustrator I can't find this Pantone.
I am not sure how to be sure of a Pantone color close to #303030.
This is to be used on a Logo.
Could someone please help me out?
Thank You,
Miguel

Miguel,
A search on the Pantone site for Pantone 29 returns nothing, http://www.pantone.co.uk/pages/SiteSearch/SiteSearch.aspx
I have found Pantone 29 mentioned on a few sites with slightly different CMYK/RGB/hex values, see below, but it seems to be a ghost colour. Or where/when has it been used?
And the muddy CMYK values seem to imply conversion from RGB, not something from a formula guide.
http://www.worlddiabetesday.org/files/WDD_logo_guidelines_08.pdf (page 7)
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Hi, I loaded the Pantone colors but am missing so many from the library! Even using the find tool they are not there. I read another forum but the link they suggested no longer works. I am using CS5.
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Ande S.

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Pantone Color Changes

I have a series of Illustrator documents created over 2 - 3 years. They are artwork for labels of multiple sizes of the same product. It is important that the colour is consistent. In the period concerned I will have used CS5, CS5.5 and CS6.
I have just added to the range and the client came back to me saying that the "blue has changed”. Sure enough it has. When I compare, Pantone 652 on one it is darker than Pantone 652 on a newer one. Apparently it prints differently as well. When I copy and paste blue items from one document to another (either way) they change colour. In other words PMS 652 is not consistent from one document to another.
When I check the CMYK numbers on the two documents they are very different: 50/25/0/10 and 47/24/7/0.
I have read that Pantone wished to 'improve' some things, and I know I can change the colour book in CS6, or just work some projects in older Illustrator versions. But they all seem to me to be cumbersome work arounds. Surely Pantone 652 should always be Pantone 652.
What am I missing?

Dear Monika:
I wanted to clarify part of the issue here.
PANTONE 652 is a color that was added to the PANTONE MATCHING SYSTEM back in 1991, one of a palette of 'light, dirty shades' that was introduced at that time. As a solid ink, the color and formulation have not changed at all since the color was introduced.
What has changed over the years are the paper stock on which the colors are printed, as well as the CMYK simulation data contained first in the PANTONE solid to process guide, and later in PANTONE Color Bridge.
The current version of PANTONE COLOR BRIDGE, launched in May 2010 as part of the PANTONE PLUS SERIES, was re-engineered with a globally-compatible, G7-based workflow to produce a single version applicable worldwide, in replacement of the previous North American and European versions with separate workflow and CMYK values. This in part explains the change in CMYK data. However, in most cases, confusion about CMYK values occurs because users typically access the colors from the PANTONE solid color libraries, and 'convert' to CMYK which provides conversion data which vary from the explicit data contained within the PANTONE COLOR BRIDGE libraries. It should be noted that the PANTONE PLUS SERIES products include a license for PANTONE Color Manager, allowing users to update the digital PANTONE libraries within their Adobe applications with libraries consistent with the PANTONE PLUS SERIES products.
Best regards,
John Stanzione
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Pantone, LLC

Pantone Color 5615 Coated Won't Print On 1 of 2 Identical HP DesignJet 5500s

Hi,
We've run into an odd problem where we have 2 locations with identical setups: Creative Suite Design Premium 4, Mac Pros, and HP DesignJet 5500s. The same InDesign file prints fine in one location with a DesignJet 5500, but when we print the same ID file at the second location that has a second DesignJet 5500, the only color that doesn't print correctly is Pantone 5615 Coated. We're using same printer driver version for both printers. I haven't yet checked Firmware versions for both printers.
On the printer that won't print Pantone 5615, the printer doesn't print it correctly in any of our Creative Suite applications. We tried creating completely new files in ID, PS, IL and the color won't print. We've checked color management in Bridge and ID and they seem OK. We're not currently having any other color problems printing with any other Creative Suite files with this printer. Colors are accurate all the way around.
I read the forum and saw a lot of posting about Pantone colors, so I will try some of the suggestions related to Pantone issues. At the moment, I'm not at the location with the problem printer and can't try the suggestions until next week.
When I was at the location yesterday, we tried printing Pantone 5615 from Quark 7.5 and the color printed fine. Obviously, we don't want to use Quark on an ongoing basis for this project. It seems likely that it isn't a printer hardware problem since the Pantone color prints out fine from the Quark file. There seems to be a setting somewhere in Creative Suite that the printer at our one location doesn't like, or there is some setting on the printer that is different than the other printer. I don't think it's a network problem with the one printer versus the other printer because I would think Quark would then run into the same problem.
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Jason

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I tried to roll back the drivers with no success. If I make a solid black rectangler file and try print it nothing at all prints. If I scribble in Photoshop with white paint brush in the middle of that same file the printer skips the left edge of the black rectangle and then prints the middle scribbnle and right egde of the rectangle folowing the contour of the scribble on the left.
Had me baffled and still does, the printheads are in good working order. I print large canvas photos with 1.5" black borders used to cover the sides of stretched canvases. The only way I have found around this issue is to add an inch or so to the canvas size all the way around in photoshop and make it white. That seems to fool the printer into printing the file with the full black border. Still this is not a real fix, but at least it keeps my printer running.
Let me know if you find a solution to this. HP support doesn't help as they only give support to in warranty printers. Maybe Apple could help with the drivers?
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Pantone conversions to cmyk don't match pantone color bridge

We are having issues at our plant with adobe not converting colors properly. Program using to send to our rip for a di press is Indesign cs6, tried cs5.5 and get the same values.
Example pantone color is 293. We have the latest pantone + bridge and the color break down is 100c 69m 0y 4k but if you let adobe made all spots to process we get a value of 100c 80m 12y 3k.
Any idea what is causing the incorrect values or what I can update to use the correct values?
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HI,
In order to get the best CMYK values from InDesign, set your CMYK working space (color settings or Assign ICC to your document) to your DI Press ICC profile.
This way, InDesign will convert from Pantone’s Lab valur to the presse ICC profile’s CMYK values.
CMYK numbers from Color Bridge + are made for european TVI (ISO standard), which is lower that North American standards.
Hope this help!

How to turn of specific spot (pantone) colors before i export the document to pdf and these selected colours will not included in pdf...

Hello, i have one question. Please help me with indesign... i have prepared photoshop document with pantone color in channel pallete... This photoshop file i have imported in indesign document and when i export it from indesign to pdf so color (pantone) overlay over cmyk... i have pantone color just for parcial paint not for proof for customer.
For example: i need to disable all pantone colors before i export document into pdf file. It is very clear process what i need to do but without find some solution. I know about pallete preview in window/output/... in indesign but this do not fix it! Please help.

Ok... i understand to overprint process... i have spot color (pantone) in imported image because of preparation to partial varnish... but i'm wondering how can i export the indesign document to pdf without the spot color which recolores my design recolored and i can't it send to customer...
Only way how can i figure out is to delete spot channel in photoshop? This is very annoying and useless prosess
i look at this threat:
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