Finding Pantone colors

I just got a new Pantone swatch book but can't figure out how to add some colors in InDesign. Most of the colors are available, but some (for example 7726U and nearby numbers) do not show up in the swatch libraries in the software. I've tried CS3 and CS4.
Any ideas how to get these colors?

If you're adding it as a Spot colour - then you're most likely getting it printed on a printing press.
A spot colour will use a different press. If you select a very similar colour the one you want - but in the Swatches rename it to Pantone 7726U
All this does is make it a separate spot colour - which will output on a separate plate.
If it's going to be printed digitally or as a 4 colour job (no spot colours) then use the CMYK equivalent of the Pantone 7726U
But for a spot colour that will be printed separately - you don't have to have the exact colour - the Spot colour name will appear on the separations.
You can communicate this to the Printers and make it 100% clear what colour you want and what you have done.
The reason for picking a similar colour is in case you need to publish this digitally also.
But for printing all that matters is that printer know what Ink to use when they're printing it.

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I just upgraded to CS3 and have a question. In CS1 when I needed to find a specific pantone color I would go to the pantone solid coated palette and at the top there was a box labeled "find" where I could type in the number and it would bring me to the color I needed.
In CS3 there is no find box and I have to scroll through to find the number I want. Am I missing something here? I want to be able to quickly find them by typing in the number, not by scrolling through a list.
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In that same palette, there should be a flyout menu. One item should be Show Find Field.
(I'm on CS2 which does indeed have this item. I'm guessing CS3 has the same?)

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cj,
The Pantone libraries should load when you install (which depend on which version).
Have you just installed?
It may be worth considering uninstalling, running the Cleaner Tool, and reinstalling.
http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

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I am using Windows 7 and the CS6 suite of products. We have a company logo in which both main colors have dramatically changed with the new books. I won't go into all of the tricks we've tried to be able to place it in new documents without the color changing. I now think the only answer is to replace the color books as Adobe recommends. I do have two questions, though.
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Second, what are the end results if I do change the books when I send a document to a printer? We usually do our printing in-house, so I am wondering when we buy PMS 2955 if it will be what I see in the old books or the new books. And what will an out-of-house printer be using?
My main two concerns are (1) seeing the correct color on screen and (2) printing the correct color. I don't really care how I get there, but I'd like it to be a permanent fix so I don't have to go in and manipulate swatches every time I add a logo to an item.
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HI this is good. But i have already seen this.
Its very informative but somehow i felt it lacks the punch and fun factor in a video. I need something which captivates and entrances the audience, not a speech kind of a thing.
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Illustrator CS4, new Pantone color books, color channel issue

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If an Illustrator CS4 file contains a Photoshop CS4 image which is using an "old" Pantone color in a color channel, it cannot be opened and I get an error message "File is unreadable". If I replace the "old" Pantone colour with its new equivalent in the color channel in Photoshop, the file can be opened normally.
In our work environment, this means going through all our images to check which one is using a color channel. A painful and time wasting procedure. Furthermore, if one of our suppliers doesn't have the new color books, they won't be able to open any of the files, both Photoshop and Illustrator, so they have no way to revert back to the old Pantone.
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We're actually testing a workaround: using both the old and the new libraries in Illustrator. After consulting our suppliers, we've learned that this is what they also do. For them, it's a one shot to get the file to print. For us, it means cheating with files that will get edited again in the future. And the Pantone installer removes the old Pantone books from the Adobe folders for a reason which is mentioned on the download page:
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http://www.pantone.com/pages/Pantone/Pantone.aspx?pg=20721&ca=1
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What is the exact meaning of the Pantone warning about the "one data point per color?
What are the long term implications of using both Pantone libraries in an Adobe file? Or in the Adobe app?

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Hello,
I am looking for a Pantone color close to #303030.
Every converter I found gives me Pantone 29 as the closest match which is #332E2E but in Adobe Illustrator I can't find this Pantone.
I am not sure how to be sure of a Pantone color close to #303030.
This is to be used on a Logo.
Could someone please help me out?
Thank You,
Miguel

Miguel,
A search on the Pantone site for Pantone 29 returns nothing, http://www.pantone.co.uk/pages/SiteSearch/SiteSearch.aspx
I have found Pantone 29 mentioned on a few sites with slightly different CMYK/RGB/hex values, see below, but it seems to be a ghost colour. Or where/when has it been used?
And the muddy CMYK values seem to imply conversion from RGB, not something from a formula guide.
http://www.worlddiabetesday.org/files/WDD_logo_guidelines_08.pdf (page 7)
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.digitale-infop rodukte.de/logos/&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522pantone%2B29%2522%26start%3D30%26hl%3Den%26sa%3D N&rurl=translate.google.dk&usg=ALkJrhhJ9QAh3PoiPvmvg8yfNemVHsNbLw

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Thanks so much
Ande S.

Have a look art this thread:
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Hi,
We've run into an odd problem where we have 2 locations with identical setups: Creative Suite Design Premium 4, Mac Pros, and HP DesignJet 5500s. The same InDesign file prints fine in one location with a DesignJet 5500, but when we print the same ID file at the second location that has a second DesignJet 5500, the only color that doesn't print correctly is Pantone 5615 Coated. We're using same printer driver version for both printers. I haven't yet checked Firmware versions for both printers.
On the printer that won't print Pantone 5615, the printer doesn't print it correctly in any of our Creative Suite applications. We tried creating completely new files in ID, PS, IL and the color won't print. We've checked color management in Bridge and ID and they seem OK. We're not currently having any other color problems printing with any other Creative Suite files with this printer. Colors are accurate all the way around.
I read the forum and saw a lot of posting about Pantone colors, so I will try some of the suggestions related to Pantone issues. At the moment, I'm not at the location with the problem printer and can't try the suggestions until next week.
When I was at the location yesterday, we tried printing Pantone 5615 from Quark 7.5 and the color printed fine. Obviously, we don't want to use Quark on an ongoing basis for this project. It seems likely that it isn't a printer hardware problem since the Pantone color prints out fine from the Quark file. There seems to be a setting somewhere in Creative Suite that the printer at our one location doesn't like, or there is some setting on the printer that is different than the other printer. I don't think it's a network problem with the one printer versus the other printer because I would think Quark would then run into the same problem.
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I have the same issue with my 44" Z3100ps GP Photo, but it is when I print from Photoshop CS5. I am running OSX 10.68 and since the last Apple/HP printer driver update this last Summer my printer will not print solid black strokes or borders around an image, yet the image prints perfectly.
I tried to roll back the drivers with no success. If I make a solid black rectangler file and try print it nothing at all prints. If I scribble in Photoshop with white paint brush in the middle of that same file the printer skips the left edge of the black rectangle and then prints the middle scribbnle and right egde of the rectangle folowing the contour of the scribble on the left.
Had me baffled and still does, the printheads are in good working order. I print large canvas photos with 1.5" black borders used to cover the sides of stretched canvases. The only way I have found around this issue is to add an inch or so to the canvas size all the way around in photoshop and make it white. That seems to fool the printer into printing the file with the full black border. Still this is not a real fix, but at least it keeps my printer running.
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For example: i need to disable all pantone colors before i export document into pdf file. It is very clear process what i need to do but without find some solution. I know about pallete preview in window/output/... in indesign but this do not fix it! Please help.

Ok... i understand to overprint process... i have spot color (pantone) in imported image because of preparation to partial varnish... but i'm wondering how can i export the indesign document to pdf without the spot color which recolores my design recolored and i can't it send to customer...
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and there is some answer to my question!
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Hi !
I have a problem: the recently released 336 pantone colors are not included in the latest CS6 InDesign pantone color libraries.
Does anybody know how to get thes new colors integrated in InDesign?
kindly, Jes

To all:
I have read with interest the 'thread' here concerning the 336 newest PANTONE colors, and thought I would take the opportunity to set the record straight.
The 336 newest PANTONE colors were introduced in April 2012, subsequent to launch of the PANTONE PLUS SERIES products in May 2010.
While Adobe CS6 is the first version of the Adobe suite to provide native support for the PANTONE PLUS SERIES libraries, this does not include the 336 newest PANTONE colors from April 2012. These colors are supported within PANTONE Color Manager software.
PANTONE Color Manager was conceived in 2010 as a vehicle through which customers of Pantone could keep their digital PANTONE libraries fully up-to-date. The software is distributed free of charge with purchase and registration of updated PANTONE color guides and books. Each PANTONE publication has a unique serial number which when registered, becomes the activation key for a single-use activation of PANTONE Color Manager. Thus, Pantone does not charge any additional cost to a customer for the libraries, over and above the cost of the PANTONE publications themselves. Customers who choose not to purchase updated books, or who may need additional licenses over and above the quantity of books that they own, can purchase PANTONE Color Manager for $49.00 per additional user license
The current release of PANTONE Color Manager, version 2.1, contains support for the 336 newest PANTONE colors in separate libraries, and allows users to export these for Adobe CS6 and earlier versions. Customers who have PANTONE Color Manager installed but are missing the 336 newest colors, can either auto-update the software, or log into their myPANTONE account and download the latest installer free of charge. Running the latest installer over the current installation will update the software to the latest release.
For detailed information pertaining to your personal situation, you may contact Pantone directly via e-mail to [email protected].
I hope that the community at large will find this information helpful.
Best regards,
John Stanzione
Manager - Technical Support
Pantone, LLC

8 steps to load a Pantone color in Illustrator - What?

Hi There,
Illustrator's way of specifying Pantone colors has driven my colleagues and I to distraction.
Firstly we go through 4 menus to select the book color, then view the swatch library as a small list, then show the find field, then search for the color, then finally load the color - 8 steps in total.
Then if you need to specify an uncoated color, you have go through all 8 steps again.
what is the proper way to load a Pantone color in Illustrator?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers

I'm on CS2 and I've been using Illy since it started.
I have always found that the quickest and easiest way of making a Pantone colour is to use Pantone's Solid to Process Imaging Guide. Make a CMYK colour using the CMYK values given up in the guide, make a swatch of it and then edit the swatch to a spot colour with the appropriate Pantone name and number. It's really far less trouble than using Illy's ready-mades. Believe me :-)
As for CS3, there is apparently little to recommend it. It seems to have far too many bugs. I'm awaiting a version that works properly and it looks like it may be a longish wait. I occasionally have to revert to Illy 6 and 9 (6 was brilliant) on an old computer for special effects and filters that "improved" versions can't cope with. Illy has somehow got far too complicated and unintuitive for basic run-of-the-mill vector work. The bottom line: if it wasn't busted why did they mend it?
And yet again, where did Dimensions go to? Illy's 3D is total junk.

Pantone colors

Hey,
If I want something to be printed with the exact Pantone color, is it possible?
I mean, when getting a Pantone color online, you get a false reference because of the screen's colors.
And when getting a color via Pantone bridge, you can't test it properly at illustrator because again, the screen differs the colors.
In short, how should I work with Pantone color while making a design for a printing house?
Furthermore, there are some colors missing using Pantone, am I wrong? I tried getting a very Dark Blue, and couldn't find any Pantone color for it.
Thanks in advance.

Illustrator has many swatch libraries built in, with the names and colour values already defined. Just select Windows > Swatch Libraries > Color Books, then the appropriate swatch book. A new panel will appear and you can select the correct swatch there. To get an accurate preview of the swatch you should use a no-shît dead tree Pantone swatch book, which is not cheap, but cheaper than one reprint because you picked the wrong colour.
You probably want PANTONE solid coated, PANTONE solid matte, or PANTONE solid uncoated.

Mixing Pantone Colors - Just like CMYK channels???

Hey Everyone,
I just signed up to the forum and had a look around. Hello everyone and I'm glad forums like this are around!
So, my question is hopefully one that is possible. I've looked elsewhere but can't find any difinitive answer or perhaps I haven't worded the question right but here it goes...
What I'd like to do [in photoshop] is treat 4 pantone colors just like CMYK channels. What I mean by that is that I would like to replace Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black with my own colors [pantone colors] and have them mix and act exactly like those channels. As in, when I open a full color image, and my pantone [or any color] channels or color profile is active, the full color image will react to those colors [with the blending of the colors].
Instead of 45% Cyan, 55% Magenta, 83% Yellow, and 2% Black in a given spot, it would be a mix of the 4 chosen colors [example: 45% pantone A, 55% Pantone B, 83% Pantone C, 2% Pantone D].
or to put it another way, if I were to color the background in, say, a blue, I would be able to use the "Info" panel to see how much of each pantone color was mixed to create that color. Obviously there would be a limit to the colors I could create based on the pantone colors I select.
I don't want to do anything printing wise with this technique. I am looking at it solely as an onscreen viewer or perhaps use it in some manner for screen printing.
Anybody have any ideas on how to achieve this?
Many thanks in advance.

Beyond setting up a multichannel document there is no magic. And it is still merely an approximation because some colors can neither be simulated on-screen nor actually printed that way. That ultimately is the whole point - PS can't simulate anything that is impossibole in the "real world" and expressed as a color profile. Anyway, I have the feeling that you have a wrong understanding what spot colors actually are/ are meant for. They simply won't respond like the basic CMYK channels because their actual inks don't behave that way. Your ink percentages will never represent anything equivalent to a mathematical mixing formula as when using RGB or CMYK, instead they are the inks color multiplied by the opacity. In case of an on-screen simulation/ proof they would not even necessarily include effects that happen due to spectral absorption when light travels through the inks or the inks mixing chemically/ physically at the pigment level. It really doesn't exactly make sense for what you have possibly in mind due to the aforementioned specifics and limitations of the simulation. One could even go so far as to craft everything in red on screen and then swap the color for green during the printing process, assuming only 100% opacities are used. That is to say spot colors are often more considered like masks that constrain the actual ink to certian areas and when you think of it that way, you may begin to understand how and why your grand plan may fall apart. Of course we don't know what your artwork looks like, so it may work, after all, but I realyl think you are heading in the wrong direction, dreaming up something that doesn't exist.
Mylenium

Pantone Colors with CMYK Colors?

Dear all!
I am LUCK. I am wondering about Pantone Colors with CMYK Colors. It's that I got 1 Pantone Color from my customer and then I changed it to the equivalent CMYK Color. Will I get different colors when changing from Pantone to CMYK because I will print with CMYK Printing Process? Anyway, I am wondering whether the Pantone color is the fix and specific color or not. I mean when I print the Pantone Color, I will get the same result as I print before. Is it right?
Please help to explain to me whether Pantone Colors will keep their colors the same and stable or not. Or would you mind telling me what kind of colors that can produce the same color every time I print, especially for the Formal Uses?
Sorry for being unaware of my knowledge here. Thanks a lot and best wishes to all!
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
My best regards,
LUCK

Pantone is a company, not a color. Pantone produces spot color inks, process color inks, and color references.
Understand first: Five color printing ("process plus one") is not uncommon, because six-color presses are not uncommon. When a project is printed on a 6-head press, it does not dramatically affect the costs, because the job can still be printed in one pass. Brochures and other marketing collateral are often printed in 5 inks when a company specifies a spot color as its identity color. When done right, the company's identity specifications also provide a CMYK mix to use in lieu of its spot color(s) when restricted to only CMYK (as in magazine placement ads).
So I'll assume your customer specified a Pantone spot color, and does not provide a preferred CMYK substitute, and your project is restricted to four color process (CMYK) printing.
CMYK mixes do not exactly match spot color inks; they can only approximate. How closely they can approximate depends upon which spot color you are dealing with.
Pantone provides its recommended CMYK values for approximating its spot color inks. That's why Illustrator provides a Pantone solid to process Swatch Library. But such lookups are recommendations; they are not absolute equivalents. There are many many colors in nature (and in spot ink pigment) which simply cannot be matched in CMYK. And any time you try to convert between color models (spot to CMYK, RGB to CMYK, etc.) you encounter ambiguities, because there are multiple algorithms that can be used to generate four values from fewer values.
I often find Pantone's spot-to-process recommendations to be unsatisfactory, and use my own CMYK approximations instead. This is not necessarily due to any failure or shortcoming of the Pantone libraries, but just differences that exist in specific printing houses and workflows. The printing process is full of variables.
Will I get different colors when changing from Pantone to CMYK
Yes, the colors will be different. But whether the difference is noticable depends upon the specific spot ink you are trying to match. It also depends upon the specific use of the color. Fact is, human color perception is very adaptive. Colors that are "mathematically" equivilant according to some colorimetric algorithm are not necessarily perceived as equivilant by human eyes, because much depends upon environment (adjacent colors, etc.)
You can refer to a printed process color reference against which you can compare a printed spot color swatch book and judge for yourself which CMYK values best approximate the spot color. Or, you can set up simple test sheet of your own, and have it printed to determine a "best match" in a particular printing environment.
All the above is just one reason why contract proofs are still important. If your customer is very picky about his spot color, then he needs to understand that converting it to CMYK is merely an approximation, and perfect matching is simply not possible. That's one reason why spot inks exist in the first place. If he is not willing to pay for five-color printing, then he will likely have to settle for a minor compromise.
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