Fire Wire and Power PC

Hi everyone
Just bought a 500GB La Cie HDD from Apple store to use with Time Machine on my 2011 MBP with OS X Lion 10.7.2.
Several cables included: FireWire 400, FireWire 800 and USB 2.0. I tried them all, but all I get is this annoying message: "Lion does not support Power PC"
So, no power to the disk and no Time Machine. I find it a bit strange that Apple Store sells this HDD without a single word of warning that the device will not run under the newest OS X. Or, am I missing something ? Is there a way out of this ?
Thanks in advance!

Hi m,
I don't recall exactly what the issue is/was, but there have been other similar posts about La Cie HDs not being compatible (that's difficult to believe these days). According to them, it's a firmware issue which they were going to fix (that was weeks if not months ago). Bottom line: contact La Cie tech support (and if you're still in the time window in which you can get a refund for it, I'd run, not walk, to get rid of the La Cie; any company whose chief advertising ploy is bragging about some supposedly famous designer who created the rectangle to house the HD has their priorities ALL mixed up, as evidenced by this firmware issue; ymmv).

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