Fire wire hub vs. express card.

I have a 2.16 GHz core duo macboook pro(bought it summer 06'). It has 2 GBs of ram and operating on 10.5.3.
I have a motu 828mk3 recording interface, and a lacie 500 GB ext drive w/ FW-400, 800 USB 2 and eSATA ports on the back. Problem is, I only have one FW-400 slot on the macbook. Apple tells me to get a FW-hub. Can this handle recording audio from the interface directly to the ext. drive?
the only other thought i have is to get either a FW-800, FW-400, or even the eSATA ExpressCard for my computer, and hook this up to my external drive.
Any help/advice/opinion would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Ben

I use a Sonnet Express eSata card in my MBP, connected to a 500 GB Lacie. Works great for video editing because I connect the camera to my FW 400 port. It was my understanding at the time that the 400 & 800 FW ports were on the same bus, so that's why I went the the eSata card. I edit HD video from time to time, and It imports straight from the camera, through the computer to the external hard drive at full time speed.
Matt

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Fire wire hub ?

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Hi
i recently daisy chained two lacie external hhds and noticed that the second was playing up -
I checked various threads here & the general feeling was dont daisy chain
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This proved right because the brand new lacie just died three months after i bought it & i trace the erratic behaviours back to when i daisy chained.
So i'm reduced to swapping fire wire cables into ports, depending on which external drive i want to power up - this is because i only have a limited amount of ports and people generally felt i should do it this way and not use a fire wire hub.....
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1. my issue with firewire hubs is that i want to
transfer data between external hds - i was advised
not to use a firewire hub to do this.
The hub shouldn't cause a problem.
The general
advice is that the safest connections are direct into
the computor.
A properly designed device should have no problems with a properly designed hub, but not everything is properly designed. Manufactures like to blame hubs when their products don't work.
However you've got me thinking....I've got three
firewire ports,
Are you sure? eMacs have two FireWire, and three USB ports.
so maybe if i use two for two
external hd's and the third with a firewire hub for
my printer & scanner
You have a FireWire printer and scanner? FireWire scanners are rare, and I haven't seen FireWire printers. USB is more common for printers and scanners.
2. when you say go in backwards, you mean upside down.
A FireWire plug is rectangular, with a pointed end, so it will only fit one way. If the socket is worn, it can be forced in the other way, and cause daage.

Which pci express Fire Wire card uses TI chipset?

Hi all
could anyone tell me which PCI express Fire Wire 400 card uses the Texas Instruments chip set? Have been looking all over but could not find one so far.
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I use an Aaxeon, but there are many others, including SiiG, Nitro etc.
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X220i Express card with Fire Wire 400 adaptor

I'd like to know if there is a suitable Expresscard for the x220i that has a Fire Wire port. I already bought one but it didn't slot in properly although it does fit an older IBM laptop that I have. I need to download stuff from a video camera and don't want to buy the wrong thing again. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Hello,
My understanding is that the X220i (like my X220) has an ExpressCard/54 slot, that is, an ExpressCard slot which is 54mm wide. Any 54mm or 34mm wide ExpressCard should fit in there, but older 16-bit PCMCIA or 32-bit CardBus cards will not, as they have different connectors.
OWC, Rain Computers, SIIG, Sonnet, StarTech and SYBA all make FireWire ExpressCard adapters which should work fine with your X220i.
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Connecting AirPort Express using Fire Wire

Hi, can't see this posted anywhere else. Have been running my MacBook Pro off my AirPort Express quite happily for some time. However recently purchased a Sonos S5 that needs to connect to my wireless router via ethernet. Only problem is the Airport Exp. only has the one ethernet port. So figured I could use the FireWire connection for the Airport/Modem and then the ethernet for the Airport/Sonos.
Only problem is I need to configure the FireWire in System Preferences and despite my attempts at guessing configuration I have no idea what I am actually doing. Not sure if it's an easy answer, but if anyone can help with config I would be very grateful.

Hi, thanks for the response and sorry that I am unclear - not my area of specialty.
Currently I have my airport express router that connects to my modem via ethernet.
I purchased a sonos unit that streams music over the internet and plays it through the unit. It uses its own base station/router to connect to my wireless network so the main unit then becomes wireless and I can move it any where in my house.
As I understand this base unit needs to connect into my router via ethernet. The problem is the Airport Express has one ethernet port and one fire wire port. I was hoping to get around this by using the fire wire to connect to my modem, and then that would leave the ethernet port free for the Sonos base unit.
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"fire wire" video capture cards for mac pro

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Your question doesn't make much sense.
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Possible to install fire wire card on Envy j157cl laptop

I have a HP Envy 17 j157cl laptop that I plan to use as adedicated video editing platform. The only problem is that it doesnot have an I.link (hot wire) connector, only usb connectors. I have found a cable with USB terminal at one end and fire wire at the other. will this work? On the other hand, is there a fire wire board (card) than can be installed in the Envy 17?. The clips that I need to process now are in tape and can only be transferd to the computer via a vidio8 SOny vIdeocamera model DCR-TRV 520.

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Installing the 3 Port Lacie Fire Wire PCI Card

Hello all
After acquiring 2 external Lacie Fire Wire HD's, and wanting to have the ability to connect my Camcorder as well, (without dazzie chaining everything), I decided to get the Lacie 3 Port Fire Wire PCI Card:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10173
It's my understanding that this will work fine in my 1.8 Single Processsor G5 Desktop.
Correct?
It's my understanding that the Card will be Plug n Play - no drivers neccessary
Correct?
It's my understanding that this will now enable me to select any of the 3 devices plugged into the 3 port card, without having to depend on ONE of them being turned on (as in dazzie chaining them)
Correct?
This will also enable me to continue the use of the other 2 Fire Wire Ports built into the rear of the G5 motherboard?
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System Preferences?
Thanx
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It's my understanding that this will work fine in my
1.8 Single Processsor G5 Desktop.
Correct?
correct
It's my understanding that the Card will be Plug n
Play - no drivers neccessary
Correct?
correct
It's my understanding that this will now enable me to
select any of the 3 devices plugged into the 3 port
card, without having to depend on ONE of them being
turned on (as in dazzie chaining them)
Correct?
You should put the camcorder on your G5 internal FW 400 port
and the drives on the LaCie card (FW 800 card I assume).
This keeps the camera on one bus and the HD Drives on their own bus.
This will prevent getting dropped frames on capture.
This will also enable me to continue the use of the
other 2 Fire Wire Ports built into the rear of the G5
motherboard?
Is there anything else I need to know?
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ESata express card. - opinions wanted

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Got this when I shut the card off while in iTunes :
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 884281 sec
Panics Since Last Report: 5
Anonymous UUID: 4D3C2F74-EB9D-4CF3-BE39-C54C41DBEA4D
Wed Dec 15 20:03:20 2010
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x2aab55): Kernel trap at 0x002993d6, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x8001003b, CR2: 0x00000008, CR3: 0x00100000, CR4: 0x00000660
EAX: 0x00000000, EBX: 0x088e6000, ECX: 0x0096973a, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x00000008, EBP: 0x58b6bee8, ESI: 0x00000001, EDI: 0x0000415e
EFL: 0x00010206, EIP: 0x002993d6, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x58b60010
Error code: 0x00000000
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x58b6bd08 : 0x21b50c (0x5d42fc 0x58b6bd3c 0x223974 0x0)
0x58b6bd58 : 0x2aab55 (0x59616c 0x2993d6 0xe 0x596336)
0x58b6be38 : 0x2a09a8 (0x58b6be50 0x0 0x58b6bee8 0x2993d6)
0x58b6be48 : 0x2993d6 (0xe 0x48 0x10 0x10)
0x58b6bee8 : 0x969752 (0x0 0x87fc000 0x58b6bf68 0x227259)
0x58b6bf08 : 0x54c4db (0x88e6000 0x88e2f00 0x1 0x29f54e)
0x58b6bf58 : 0x54b50c (0x88e2f00 0x886191c 0x58b6bf88 0x2272c4)
0x58b6bf88 : 0x54b966 (0x88f5880 0x8861900 0x0 0x0)
0x58b6bfc8 : 0x2a06cc (0x88f5880 0x0 0x2a06db 0x88033d4)
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dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIParallelFamily(2.0.1)@0x94d000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6)@0x956000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
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10H574
Kernel version:
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System model name: MacBookPro5,2 (Mac-F2268EC8)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 104372700576
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loaded kexts:
com.deepseasoftware.driver.CDSDAudioCaptureSupport 1.2.1
com.roxio.BluRaySupport 1.1.3
com.SiliconImage.driver.Si3132 1.2.3
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 2.2.05
com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor 1.9.3d0
com.apple.filesystems.autofs 2.1
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Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-868
SCSI Device: SCSI Target Device @ 0
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USB Device: Hub, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x9136, 0x26200000
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USB Device: CanoScan, 0x04a9 (Canon Inc.), 0x2220, 0x26220000
USB Device: Hub, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x9137, 0x26240000
USB Device: Display iSight, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8508, 0x26242000
USB Device: Apple LED Cinema Display, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x9236, 0x26243000
USB Device: Display Audio, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x2912, 0x26241000
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x0237, 0x04600000
USB Device: IR Receiver, 0x05ac (Apple Inc.), 0x8242, 0x04500000
USB Device: BCM2046A, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x2046, 0x06100000

How can i download video hdv minicassette footage from my sony video camera with no fire wire port?

How can I download video HDV minicassette footage from my sony video camera with no fire wire port?

Hi,
Are you talking about your computer which has no firewire port ? If YES you can have one of two options:
(a) Use FCI - Firewire card like this (preferred)
You can buy from this:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-Ports-PCI-Express-PCI-E-IEEE-1394A-Firewire-Adapter-Cable-Card-/1507023...
(b) You can also use USB-Firewaire adapter like this:
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Importing Help from fire wire hard drive

Hi
I have a Canon HV20 and a My Book 500 Gig Hard drive and I'm using a Ibook G4.
Here's my Problem , I only have one Firewire Input so I Plugged My Book In it and Put the Cameras firewire in the Hard drives fire wire out and When I try to Import Final cut Express can never find that it is plugged in to my Hard drive but when I go to Imovie It Finds it Easy.
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hey there Michealbak, welcome to Discussions,
i've used a Belkin Firewire hub for 5 years w/ no issues because i needed more Firewire ports on my G4 iMac connecting FW audio, Sony cam & ext FW HDDs. then i used it briefly on my MacBook for the same purpose as you, needed to connect a FW HDD & my video cam. as Tom states Canon cams can have issues w/ multiple devices on the same FW buss. the hub may or may not help, as others have reported issues w/ the MyBook line of HDDs.
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Fire Wire 800 VS eSATA interfaces

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For the formats you work in using FCE FW800 is sufficient.

HT201180 What type of Fire Wire cable to use to connect MacBook Pro 2009 to tape-based Sony TRV720 camcorder

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USB/eSata express card not working on stock kernel

Hello everyone,
I have a weird problem and I don't seem to find any solution by myself. Let me give you some background info on what I plan to do.
I purchased an express card to eSata/USB 3.0 adapter and want to make it work on my laptops. Precisely, it is this card: http://www.amazon.de/Notebook-Express-C … B007F8TXZ8
1: Lenovo X200s (1,6GHz) running Ubuntu 14.04 amd64
2: Lenovo X200s (1,6GHz) running Debian 7 amd64
3: Lenovo X200T (1,6GHz) running ArchLinux amd64
The card does work fine only on the Ubuntu machine. I would like to make it run on the two other ones as well. I thought I might get help here getting it to work on machine 3 and then transfer the results to machine 2. What really matters to me is eSata, btw, I do not even have a USB 3.0 device to test with.
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user@1-ubuntu:~$ uname -r
3.13.0-39-generic
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[ 1953.576472] pciehp 0000:00:1c.3:pcie04: Card present on Slot(3)
[ 1953.728077] pci 0000:05:00.0: [1b21:1042] type 00 class 0x0c0330
[ 1953.728119] pci 0000:05:00.0: reg 0x10: [mem 0x00000000-0x00007fff 64bit]
[ 1953.728304] pci 0000:05:00.0: PME# supported from D3hot
[ 1953.736062] pci 0000:05:00.0: BAR 0: assigned [mem 0xf0000000-0xf0007fff 64bit]
[ 1953.736087] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: PCI bridge to [bus 05-0c]
[ 1953.736092] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: bridge window [io 0x2000-0x2fff]
[ 1953.736098] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: bridge window [mem 0xf0000000-0xf1ffffff]
[ 1953.736104] pcieport 0000:00:1c.3: bridge window [mem 0xf2900000-0xf29fffff 64bit pref]
[ 1953.736133] pci 0000:05:00.0: no hotplug settings from platform
[ 1953.736143] pci 0000:05:00.0: enabling device (0000 -> 0002)
[ 1953.736398] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI Host Controller
[ 1953.736406] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 9
[ 1953.743621] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: irq 46 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 1953.743629] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: irq 49 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 1953.743635] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
[ 1953.743784] usb usb9: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002
[ 1953.743788] usb usb9: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[ 1953.743791] usb usb9: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[ 1953.743794] usb usb9: Manufacturer: Linux 3.13.0-39-generic xhci_hcd
[ 1953.743796] usb usb9: SerialNumber: 0000:05:00.0
[ 1953.743973] hub 9-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 1953.743990] hub 9-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 1953.744147] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: xHCI Host Controller
[ 1953.744153] xhci_hcd 0000:05:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 10
[ 1953.744218] usb usb10: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0003
[ 1953.744221] usb usb10: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1
[ 1953.744224] usb usb10: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[ 1953.744227] usb usb10: Manufacturer: Linux 3.13.0-39-generic xhci_hcd
[ 1953.744229] usb usb10: SerialNumber: 0000:05:00.0
[ 1953.744366] hub 10-0:1.0: USB hub found
[ 1953.744383] hub 10-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
[ 1954.447851] usb 10-1: new SuperSpeed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[ 1954.460505] usb 10-1: Parent hub missing LPM exit latency info. Power management will be impacted.
[ 1954.461215] usb 10-1: New USB device found, idVendor=174c, idProduct=5106
[ 1954.461219] usb 10-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1
[ 1954.461222] usb 10-1: Product: AS2105
[ 1954.461225] usb 10-1: Manufacturer: ASMedia
[ 1954.461228] usb 10-1: SerialNumber: 00000000000000000000
[ 1954.463146] usb-storage 10-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[ 1954.463279] scsi7 : usb-storage 10-1:1.0
[ 1955.460385] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access ASMT 2105 0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[ 1955.465099] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[ 1955.466483] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
I wouldn't know of any attached disks, and neither does it show up. Note that it is only the card I plugged in, no hard drive attached to it.
hburg1234@packrehsel:~$ lspci -k
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20e0
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20e4
Kernel driver in use: i915
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20e4
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset MEI Controller (rev 07)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20e6
Kernel driver in use: mei_me
00:03.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset AMT SOL Redirection (rev 07)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20ec
Kernel driver in use: serial
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20ee
Kernel driver in use: e1000e
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f1
Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f2
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f0
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f1
Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M-E LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f5
Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f8
Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 20f9
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
Subsystem: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 AGN
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
05:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB Host Controller
Subsystem: Device 174c:2104
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
The last one seems to be important to me, so here's a verbose output on that one.
user@1-ubuntu:~$ lspci -v | tail -n 8
05:00.0 USB controller: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1042 SuperSpeed USB Host Controller (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
Subsystem: Device 174c:2104
Physical Slot: 3
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
user@1-ubuntu:~$ sudo udevadm monitor -k
monitor will print the received events for:
KERNEL - the kernel uevent
KERNEL[2585.956558] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0 (pci)
KERNEL[2585.972086] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb9 (usb)
KERNEL[2585.972116] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb9/9-0:1.0 (usb)
KERNEL[2585.975736] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10 (usb)
KERNEL[2585.975763] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-0:1.0 (usb)
KERNEL[2586.689218] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1 (usb)
KERNEL[2586.690935] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0 (usb)
KERNEL[2586.695723] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9 (scsi)
KERNEL[2586.695757] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/scsi_host/host9 (scsi_host)
KERNEL[2587.692633] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0 (scsi)
KERNEL[2587.692667] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0 (scsi)
KERNEL[2587.692691] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/scsi_disk/9:0:0:0 (scsi_disk)
KERNEL[2587.692708] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/scsi_device/9:0:0:0 (scsi_device)
KERNEL[2587.692824] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/scsi_generic/sg1 (scsi_generic)
KERNEL[2587.692898] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/bsg/9:0:0:0 (bsg)
KERNEL[2587.699636] add /devices/virtual/bdi/8:16 (bdi)
KERNEL[2587.699771] add /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/block/sdb (block)
KERNEL[2587.703694] change /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/block/sdb (block)
KERNEL[2587.709178] change /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.3/0000:05:00.0/usb10/10-1/10-1:1.0/host9/target9:0:0/9:0:0:0/block/sdb (block)
Apart from the supposedly found block device (can't judge) I am not sure if there is anything that is really eSata specific and not USB 3.0 related.
So far what I think I can tell from the output is that the modules
pciehp pci pcieport
seem to be dealing with the express card as such whereas
xhci_hcd
takes care of USB 3.0. I cannot see any clear reference to the eSata connector, which might not be surprising if the bus is just passed through (again: not sure).
For completeness' sake here comes the output of
user@1-ubuntu:~$ lsmod | tee before
Module Size Used by
ctr 13049 1
ccm 17773 1
pci_stub 12622 1
vboxpci 23194 0
vboxnetadp 25670 0
vboxnetflt 27613 0
vboxdrv 339502 3 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt,vboxpci
cuse 13445 3
dm_crypt 23177 1
btusb 32412 0
cdc_ether 14351 0
usbnet 43913 1 cdc_ether
cdc_acm 28803 0
mii 13934 1 usbnet
cdc_wdm 19053 0
rfcomm 69160 8
bnep 19624 2
bluetooth 391136 22 bnep,btusb,rfcomm
binfmt_misc 17468 1
coretemp 13435 0
kvm_intel 143148 0
kvm 451729 1 kvm_intel
thinkpad_acpi 81013 0
nvram 14411 1 thinkpad_acpi
serio_raw 13462 0
arc4 12608 2
snd_seq_midi 13324 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14899 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_hda_codec_conexant 57441 1
iwldvm 232285 0
snd_hda_intel 56451 3
mac80211 630653 1 iwldvm
snd_hda_codec 192906 2 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 13602 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_rawmidi 30144 1 snd_seq_midi
lpc_ich 21080 0
iwlwifi 169932 1 iwldvm
snd_seq 61560 2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi
snd_pcm 102099 2 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
mei_me 18627 0
cfg80211 484040 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm
snd_page_alloc 18710 2 snd_pcm,snd_hda_intel
mei 82276 1 mei_me
snd_seq_device 14497 3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer 29482 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd 69322 17 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,thinkpad_acpi,snd_seq_device,snd_seq_midi
soundcore 12680 1 snd
parport_pc 32701 0
ppdev 17671 0
mac_hid 13205 0
tp_smapi 28367 0
thinkpad_ec 14449 1 tp_smapi
lp 17759 0
parport 42348 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
i915 783961 2
psmouse 106714 0
ahci 25819 3
libahci 32716 1 ahci
i2c_algo_bit 13413 1 i915
e1000e 254433 0
drm_kms_helper 55071 1 i915
drm 303102 3 i915,drm_kms_helper
ptp 18933 1 e1000e
pps_core 19382 1 ptp
video 19476 1 i915
wmi 19177 0
and a list of the newly loaded modules:
user@1-ubuntu:~$ diff before <(lsmod)
1a2
> usb_storage 62209 0
Now, on my Arch machine the situation is as follows when the card is plugged in:
user@3-arch:~$ uname -r
3.17.2-1-ARCH
user@3-arch:~$ sudo udevadm monitor -k
monitor will print the received events for:
KERNEL - the kernel uevent
user@3-arch:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
sr_mod 21903 0
cdrom 47479 1 sr_mod
hid_generic 12393 0
usbhid 48603 0
hid 102220 2 hid_generic,usbhid
cdc_ether 12564 0
usbnet 34978 1 cdc_ether
cdc_acm 30362 0
cdc_wdm 17427 0
mii 12675 1 usbnet
ctr 12927 0
ccm 17534 0
fuse 87410 3
joydev 17063 0
wacom_w8001 12706 0
serport 12842 1
mousedev 17272 0
iTCO_wdt 12831 0
iTCO_vendor_support 12649 1 iTCO_wdt
coretemp 12820 0
kvm 417429 0
pcspkr 12595 0
psmouse 107214 0
evdev 21544 20
mac_hid 12633 0
serio_raw 12849 0
i2c_i801 16965 0
snd_hda_codec_conexant 21835 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 63126 1 snd_hda_codec_conexant
arc4 12536 2
iwldvm 184847 0
mac80211 604456 1 iwldvm
i915 905750 2
lpc_ich 20768 0
iwlwifi 156837 1 iwldvm
snd_hda_intel 26387 0
snd_hda_controller 26938 1 snd_hda_intel
cfg80211 445286 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwldvm
thinkpad_acpi 69074 0
e1000e 215686 0
snd_hda_codec 108536 4 snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
drm_kms_helper 80934 1 i915
shpchp 35210 0
snd_hwdep 17244 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 88487 3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
ptp 17692 1 e1000e
pps_core 17225 1 ptp
snd_timer 26614 1 snd_pcm
wmi 17339 0
drm 259106 4 i915,drm_kms_helper
nvram 13034 1 thinkpad_acpi
thermal 17559 0
snd 73436 8 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,thinkpad_acpi
soundcore 13031 2 snd,snd_hda_codec
led_class 12859 2 iwldvm,thinkpad_acpi
rfkill 18867 3 cfg80211,thinkpad_acpi
ac 12715 0
hwmon 12930 2 coretemp,thinkpad_acpi
acpi_cpufreq 17218 1
battery 17452 0
i2c_algo_bit 12744 1 i915
mei_me 17900 0
tpm_tis 17182 0
i2c_core 50152 5 drm,i915,i2c_i801,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit
tpm 31467 1 tpm_tis
mei 75079 1 mei_me
intel_agp 17432 0
intel_gtt 17848 3 i915,intel_agp
video 18043 1 i915
processor 27777 3 acpi_cpufreq
button 12953 1 i915
sch_fq_codel 17343 6
tp_smapi 27621 0
thinkpad_ec 12813 1 tp_smapi
ext4 497696 3
crc16 12343 1 ext4
mbcache 17171 1 ext4
jbd2 86417 1 ext4
sha256_ssse3 25692 2
sha256_generic 16804 1 sha256_ssse3
ecb 12737 0
cbc 12696 1
algif_skcipher 17051 0
af_alg 12988 1 algif_skcipher
dm_crypt 22551 1
dm_mod 93490 15 dm_crypt
sd_mod 44398 3
crct10dif_generic 12581 1
crc_t10dif 12431 1 sd_mod
crct10dif_common 12356 2 crct10dif_generic,crc_t10dif
atkbd 22254 0
libps2 12739 2 atkbd,psmouse
ata_generic 12490 0
ahci 33291 2
libahci 27158 1 ahci
pata_acpi 12771 0
uhci_hcd 43507 0
ehci_pci 12512 0
ehci_hcd 69939 1 ehci_pci
libata 181518 4 ahci,pata_acpi,libahci,ata_generic
usbcore 199381 9 uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci,usbhid,usbnet,cdc_acm,cdc_wdm,cdc_ether
usb_common 12440 1 usbcore
scsi_mod 147543 3 libata,sd_mod,sr_mod
i8042 18002 1 libps2
serio 18282 9 serio_raw,atkbd,i8042,serport,wacom_w8001,psmouse
Sticking to my suspicion that this might just be a USB related issue and eSata might still work due to some sort of passthrough, I attached the very eSata drive that I could mount on Ubuntu. It did not work.
I then researched and found this blog post: http://okomestudio.net/biboroku/?p=1360
So I downloaded the pkgbuild for the arch linux core kernel and checked the config. It matched the recommendations.
Another hint I found was to unload acpiphp and force-reload it. However, this tip does not seem to apply to the arch kernel:
[user@3-arch:~$ sudo rmmod acpiphp
rmmod: ERROR: Module acpiphp is builtin.
Anyone any idea on how to make the card work?
Thank you!
Last edited by archery1234 (2014-11-15 10:46:35)

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