FirePro W7000 or Quadro K4000

I am about to buy a graphic card
I am between FirePro W7000 and Quadro K4000
I know that Adobe is supporting the OpenCL in it's latest products so the AMD solution is an option.
But I have problem.
I am not entirely sure whether the 3DRay tracing Rendering in After Effects benefits from the openCL or it is only CUDA accelerated
since I've read that OpenCL doesn't fully support certain plugins and functions.
So what do you suggest?
I am not interested in buying a consumer gaming card so pls dont tell me about GeforceGTX or HD products
Thank you in advance for your response
Best regards
Dimitris

> I would like to know if Adobe is planing to support OpenCL for these kind of tasks in the near future
The ray-traced 3D renderer in After Effects is built on top of the Nvidia OptiX library, which relies on CUDA. This will never work with OpenCL. Keep in mind that this is only one feature, though, and there are other ways to work with 3D in After Effects, including the more recent features to integrate After Effects with CInema 4D.
> So... you recomend the Quadro K4000...
I don't see where anyone said that. That card isn't on the list of tested and supported in the current version.
> thats why I need a more professional card.
I think that it's incorrect to refer to the Quadro cards as "more professional". They provide different features. If raw CUDA computation is what you're after, the GTX cards do very well. Part of building a "professional" system is only spending what you need to on the features that you'll actually use (and then using the savings on other components, like RAM and SSDs, whoch make a huge difference in performance).
We spend a lot of time talking with our partners at Nvidia about this, and they are happy to recommend cards like the GTX 690 for use with applications like After Effects.
Of the four cards that they asked us to test next, three of them are GTX cards, since these are the ones that they know (and we know) suit the use of After Effects and other creative software well. (The other is the K6000, which is a mighty nice card.)
I'm not trying to tell you that you must get one card or the other. I'm just trying to make sure that you don't dismiss an entire category out of hand without doing more research of your own.

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Problème AfterEffect avec une Nvidia Quadro K4000

Bonjour à tous!
Nous avons récemment acquéri une Carte Graphique Nvidia Quadro K4000 pour le graphiste de ma société.
Il tourne sur un PC HP Z400 avec 6 Go de Ram et un processeur Xéon série 3600.
Voir fiche sur le site HP : http://h41111.www4.hp.com/new_workstations/fr/fr/z400_tech-specs.html#tab-nav
Depuis l'installation de la carte graphique et de la mise à jour des pilotes (ainsi que ceux de sa machine), il a perdu en performance.
Ma question: y a t'il une configuration/paramétrage à faire pour exploiter la pleine puissance de la quadro k4000 sous CS5.5 ?
Merci d'avance pour vos réponses

Alors la release de pilotes actuellement installé est : Quadro/NVS/Tesla/Grid Desktop driver Release 331 (officielle de Nvidia)
Le site de nvidia ne fait aucunement référence à des pilotes CUDA pour les systèmes Windows (uniquement proposé pour Mac)
Les opérations les plus lentes les plus flagrantes sont les prévisualisation dans after effect et les temps de rendu plus long qu'avec l'ancienne carte.
L'anciennne carte graphique est une ATI FirePro 3D V3800
Perso je sèche
Merci d'essayer de m'aider

Regarding certified GPU's: Why is the older AMD Firepro W7000 certified and not the newer W7100?

Regarding certified GPU's: Why is the older AMD Firepro W7000 certified and not the newer W7100?

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this is just one video, but i've seen others where they use quadro and gtx together. he runs davinci resolve in video, but not premiere. there is an icon for premiere in the taskbar, so they probably do use it. with nvidia, its possible to go into the control panel and assign only one of the video cards to be used for cuda processing. if just need 10bit out, there are dedicated cards that are designed specifically for display only and shouldn't conflict with a gtx and premiere. some of these display out cards are cheaper than an old cheap quadro or firepro too. ADK has several different kinds, so they should be able to set it up.

PS CS6 10bit with Quadro K4000 and 30" Dell U3011. My experiences...

Hello everyone. I had searched quite extensively when looking into a solution for my color banding on an ancient Apple 30" cinema display which was on it's last leg. That search led me to 10bit and it's surprisingly obscure implementation in PS. Allow me to share my experiences so others doing google searches can potentially be helped, and also pose a few questions that Nvidia could not answer for me.
First, I am running Windows 7 x64, latest drivers/patches on everything. Everything includes:
PNY Quadro K4000
Dell U3011 via Displayport
Windows 7 x64
Photoshop CS6 x64
2560 x 1600 Desktop resolution
So the long story here is that I did not think my combination was working. I tried the ramp.psd from AMDs website, and saw absolutely no change. Frustrated, I hit the internet, and unfortunately, found a plethora of AMD/ATI based help, but very very little Nvidia Quadro support, msot likely due to their "it just works" mentality (http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3049/~/how-to-enable-30-bit-color-on-wi ndows-platforms). The help files say that the Quadro and PS will just detect the ability to use 10bit color depth and use it, but there is no way to confirm that that combination is in fact compatible without actually seeing the result. No screen overlays, no checkboxes in the driver (as far as confirmation goes). You can force 10bit in the quadro driver, but that doesn't tell you it's actually working.
So I got on the live support with a helpful tech from Nvidia and eventually got to the bottom of it. Things I learned:
- with Photoshop maximized at 2560 x 1600, 10bit did NOT work with any of the flyout panels open. This was the number one hair-puller, and why I thought this was not working at all the entire time. I had my history panel out. At some point while chatting with the Nvidia rep I decided to take photoshop off of full screen so I could see both PS and the chat window at the same time. The PS window then occupied maybe 70% of the screenspace and poof.. the bands disappeared. I slowly drag the corner of the screen out to make it larger and at some point the bands pop back in. Odd. So I maximize but close the flyout history panel and poof, bands disappear. If I'm fullscreen and hit tab to hide shelves and panels, smooth as butter as well. The Nvidia rep summized that it had to do with OpenGL overlays interfering, but had nothing to offer in the way of the resolution/screen size issue.
So I either have to view 10bit as a toggle, or not use my pallets as flyouts in the main PS window, or not maximize PS.
So, I'm sure there are other people running this combo, so I'd love to hear your results. ATI/AMD cards are clearly a different driver set, and thus, probably totally different results. Nvidia claims there is NO resolution limit to 10bit written into their driver, so the resolution being the problem did not make sense to them. That laid the blame purely on Photoshop. I'd love to hear from Adobe on the matter.
In any case, hopefully this helps someone struggling as to why they see no difference on that gradient image. It is literally night and day, so if you aren't seeing that "pop," it's just not working.
I must say that, as I've read in countless other posts, in actual photos, this 10bit can be a very minimal improvement, but it is noticeable in some of my shots where I have color grads on skintones. The red burn is gone, and it's a much smoother transition. This is insanely evident in purely CG created gradients or gausian blurred overlays, however. I have a few CG-assisted background hotspots with the addition of a gausian blurred screen of white, and it has helped that quite a bit.
I, for one, welcome out 10bit overlords. Hope this helps someone.
Cheers
- Justin

"Have you tried disabling desktop composition (Aero Glass)? I have heard there can be conflicts there that prevent drivers from enabling full 30 bit color."
This is disabled automatically by the Quadro driver the second you turn on the Deep Color option. And no, as someone who uses his machine for production moreso than pleasure, I immediately turn all that stuff off anyways as it's useless.
I will test that file after work tonight when I get home. No 10bit here. Irony.
Thanks. I'll also try to make a video/animated gif of sorts to illustrate the difference to your naked eye. I was also quite clueless as to the "real world" implications when I started looking into this, as all you really find are generated gradients, which seem doctored at times. Seeing the pop happen with your own eyes is quite interesting, and a definite selling feature.
Oh, also, I will add that I previously ordered the new U2713H from Dell, and I was 100% disssatisfied with the backlight bleed, as well as the color representation and quality control. Mine had a very terribly noticeable yellow color bleed in the lower left. I found this to be a regular occurance for these newer LED backlit monitors, and ultimately returned it and went with the older CCFL U3011. It is far superior IMO and only slightly more expensive. Highly recommended. This forum posting swayed my ultimate decision away from the U3014: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1751499
- Justin

Geforce titan or quadro k4000?

Hello all -
I'm hoping to get a little help/clarification on which card would better suit my needs, and appreciate any/all help. I'm probably at an intermediate level of understanding when it comes to the technical aspects of computers, so some of the finer points escape me.
In short, i'm looking at two graphics cards to purchase as an upgrade: the geforce titan http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-titan/specifications or the quadro k4000 http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-desktop-gpus.html .
Currently, my setup is as follows:
Intel Motherboard Dual Socket Xeon S5520SC
Intel Xeon CPU Fan Heatsink STS100C
2 x 2.26GHz Intel "Nehalem" Xeon Quad Core [8MB]
12GB 1333MHz DDR3 Triple Channel SDRAM (6 x 2GB)
1TB High Speed Hard Drive [64MB Cache, 7200RPM]
StormDrive Dual Layer CD/DVD Writer
850W Silent Power Supply
Windows 7 Pro [64-bit]
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 Workstation Graphics Accelerator [1GB]
PCI 3 Port FireWire [TI Chipset]
(additional) 1TB High Performance Drive [64MB Cache SATA 3 6GB]
I use my workstation for projects and not gaming. And i used CS5 and Toon Boon Harmony as my two mediums for editing/creation. With CS5, it's my understanding that the quadro cards are preferred as they utilize some useful functions (such as mercury playback), and that they handle after effects better for the 3d issues. Conversely, Toon Boom Harmony suggests a geforce card over a quadro, as it corresponds with their software more "inherently" than a quadro. Granted, both programs would work well with either type of card, but is there one that is better fit to run both? And given my setup listed above, would the Titan card be massive overkill/be bottlenecked by slower components? Additionally, can anyone testify to a head to head matchup between these two cards?
Thanks.

I listed observations and testing results. The editing applications that have GPU acceleration and perform better with Geforce cards are professional applications used in all the media content creation industry. Davinci and Adobe are far more prevalent now than what few applications that benefit from the Quadro Open GL plugins. GPU acceleration in general has supplanted Open GL as the primary GPU processing. Since it has, the raw specs of the cards decide the performance. This has been tested and shown with results by far more people than myself. So these are not opinions. The 700 series cards are showing greater performance than the previous gen Nvidia cards so obviously the cards were not limited that much if at all. The applications caching models are currently limiting the performance of the current cards as are the CPU's available. The CPU's themselves have to decode the data first that get's GPU processed and create all of the buffers that transit the data down to the GPU for processing. That is where the current limitation is for the GPU processing load. GPU-Z is reflecting this when monitoring the GPU load during application processing. Only certain codecs with resolutions greater than 2K such as red are using enough frame data to really push the cards. This points to applications limiting performance and not the hardware. There are far more applications now using GPU acceleration that gain the benefit from the specs of the cards than there are applications that take advantage of the Quadro Open GL plugins
Nothing you have mentioned supports any professional stability argument for the Quadro cards. I actually listed a current problem with the Quadro cards that effects any processing unit and that is heat. That has been observed in testing and long term support here with failed video cards. The Quadro k4000 series due to the single slot profile, limited cooling, and poor fan control has the highest failure rate. Those cards are averaging well over 80+C with GPU acceleration applications especially since they are using lower end GPU chips that are often at 75% load or greater. Time, experience, and results show the higher end Geforce cards have a higher stability probability due to heat generation and constant long term load percentage. The only reason scientific, medical, and engineering GPU acceleration applications are used with the Quadro cards is the ECC ram option. When processing data sets that take weeks to complete or have extremely high cost involved in research, errors due to GPU ram is not something those R&D entities want to risk. In those scenarios the Quadro cards are the best choice. That is the only stability based advantage the Quadro cards bring to the table. That however no real impact on media content creation which we are discussing in this forum.
Results and observations don't require a resume of experience to validate. Simply perform the testing as other have done like myself and list them here. I am stating results and observations that have been reported by many others so the validation is the simply the number of results that reflect the same data. If you disagree then report your results and let others either duplicate or disprove. That is not blind faith but simply data. Listing a bunch of marketing material as facts does nothing to validate your argument and are not facts as you state. They are marketing points that can be interpreted any number of ways hence the lack of any real value to the actual editors or content industry in general.

Fine tuning nvidia quadro k4000 to work with premiere pro cc

Would anyone know the correct settings for nvidia quadro k4000 to work with premiere pro cc please?
Currently it's only using 33% of it's full power when rendering, while the CPU is running @ 95%
Mercury playback engine GPU is selected.
Thank you in advance

why would the encoder have the option to choose between mercury playback engine using GPU, or sofware encoding only!
From the article linked to earlier:
The video card and hardware MPE is not the holy grail. It helps in some circumstances to improve performance and rather significantly, but in other instances it does not help at all, as is indicated in the link above. People often think that installing a super fast video card will reduce export times by a significant amount of time. That is not true. It only helps in a limited number of situations. Keep in mind that:
Encoding to an export format is done by the CPU, not the GPU. No performance gain from a video card.
Frame rate changes, frame blending is done by a suitable video card, for instance exporting to 24P from 29.97i or 60P. Here there is a clear performance gain.
Scaling is also helped by hardware MPE, for instance going from 4K to HD or from HD to SD. Again a clear performance gain.
Rendering for preview is helped by the video card only for accelerated effects.

Amd firepro w7000 ?

after effects cs6 and after effects cc Can you use the amd firepro w7000 cards to speed?

The only thing After Effects uses a GPU to accelerate is the ray-traced renderer.
The bad news: the ray-traced renderer can only be accelerated by certain NVIDIA cards as it's based on NVIDIA technology. You cannot use an AMD card to accelerate it.
The good news: in After Effects CC, the ray-traced renderer became obsolete. AE now includes Cinema 4D Lite. This renders faster and is much more powerful than the ray-traced renderer.
So, if you're using After Effects CC (or the brand new After Effects CC 2014), you can use that card. Well, unless you are using Premiere or certain third-party plugins to After Effects (like VideoCopilot's , they all have different requirements.
More info here: GPU (CUDA, OpenGL) features in After Effects CS6 and After Effects CC

Quadro k4000 vs GTX 760. which one for AE

I have 2 Computers and planning to mix them up together as possible. I built a PC with quadro k4000 last year because I was graduated as 3D animator and i plan to work as Animator, plus I also have another PC with GTX 760. and now I'm currently working as Video Editor. so here are my questions:
- k4000 and gtx 760 which one would do better in AE and Pr ?
- I read some articles said: "quadro and gtx can group up together in one PC". is it really possible ? because some people said yes and some people said no and some people said yes but wont work together blah blah. I really want to know about it, because right now I already have these 2 GPU. and if YES. can you show me how to do it?
there are my both PC specs:
CPU: core i7 3820 3.66hz
RAM: 16GB
SSD 128gb
HDD 3TB
MotherBoard: Asus P9X79 PRO
VGA: asus GTX 760
Another one is:
CPU core i7-3930K 3.20GHz
RAM: 32GB
SSD: 256gb
HDD: 3TB x 2
MotherBoard: ASRock X79 Extreme6
VGA: quadro k4000
Can somebody help me to build these 2 PC in just 1 PC as possible ?

I have something similar that I just posted about - my system has both a GTX780 and a Quadro K4200 installed. Eric is right. They work, but the driver installation can be tricky.
Mine is a new build and I am trying to learn how the two cards work together. I expected better performance. I don't understand why setting CUDA acceleration to only the GeForce, when NVidia allows for both CUDA GPUs. I tried every combination with no difference in results. So, I will be following your thread to see what happens.

Nvidia Quadro K4000 vs Asus GTX 760. Which one better for AE and Pr ?

I have 2 Computers and planning to mix them up together as possible. I built a PC with quadro k4000 last year because I was graduated as 3D animator and i plan to work as Animator, plus I also have another PC with GTX 760. and now I'm currently working as Video Editor. so here are my questions:
- k4000 and gtx 760 which one would do better in AE and Pr ?
- I read some articles said: "quadro and gtx can group up together in one PC". is it really possible ? because some people said yes and some people said no and some people said yes but wont work together blah blah. I really want to know about it, because right now I already have these 2 GPU. and if YES. can you show me how to do it?
there are my both PC specs:
CPU: core i7 3820 3.66hz
RAM: 16GB
SSD 128gb
HDD 3TB
MotherBoard: Asus P9X79 PRO
VGA: asus GTX 760
Another one is:
CPU core i7-3930K 3.20GHz
RAM: 32GB
SSD: 256gb
HDD: 3TB x 2
MotherBoard: ASRock X79 Extreme6
VGA: quadro k4000
Can somebody help me to build these 2 PC in just 1 PC as possible ?

I have something similar that I just posted about - my system has both a GTX780 and a Quadro K4200 installed. Eric is right. They work, but the driver installation can be tricky.
Mine is a new build and I am trying to learn how the two cards work together. I expected better performance. I don't understand why setting CUDA acceleration to only the GeForce, when NVidia allows for both CUDA GPUs. I tried every combination with no difference in results. So, I will be following your thread to see what happens.

Nvidia GTX 980 OR FIREPRO w7000 for Adobe CC?

Nvidia GTX 980 OR FIREPRO w7000 for Premiere CC 2014 After Effects, Photoshop?

Intel 5930k
Asus Rampage V Extreme
2 SSD Kingston Technology HyperX FURY SSD RAID 0
Corsair RM1000 1000W ATX 80+ Gold

Issue with HP Z820 64GB RAM and dual Quadro K4000's and rendering and playback performance

I'm having major issues with performance on my system (running windows 8.1. Premiere CC 7.2.2). My friend in the office here has a Mac Pro (2013) with 6 core cpu and dual D500's and I have dual Xeon 2665's and dual K4000's.
The problem is that he can export twice as fast as me on mercury software and almost 3 times faster on Mercury GPU. He can also add twice as many affects before his system drops frames (using same settings and video file). When I go to GPU-Z my gpu's are hardly working with GPU export selected... with software only my CPU's get to 60% load max whereas his CPU get's to about 84%. Am I missing something? I know the D500's are almost the same as W8000's (and he has two), but dual K4000's shouldn't be that far behind? And how does selecting cpu exporting get him an export time of 6 minutes compared to my 15 minutes when I have a 32 threads to work with??
Am I doing something wrong? Have I got a setting somewhere that is causing this that I might have missed? Are dual D500's really THAT much better than dual K4000's? AND HOW is my 7k+ machine that much worse than his £3200 mac?
Please help. I'm losing my mind here!
Thanks
Edit - Would just like to add that the video files we are using are pro res 422 and that I have the latest bios and latest nvidia performance drivers

That HP Z820 should kick the Mac pros butt! For example we run Autodesk Flame systems ( 150k software) on the Z820's with Quadro 6000 cards and they fly. We also had a new mac pro in for testing a few months ago w the dual fire pro cards all decked out and it was crap next the the Z820. Of cource the new MP cant run allot of highend software because of its lack of nvidia support and the firepros lack of open GL but we did run premier and smoke etc on it for testing. ( Although i thought it looked cool the total lack of exandability and nvida support was to much so we sent it back). Graphic workstations need PCIe expandability and a choice in GPs.
Anyhow here are a few observations:
-Software being used will dertermine the hardware purchased,
-The dual xeons at the much lower clock speed are meant to work 24/7 like a lamans endurance race, not a sprint race. Better to get highest frequency xeons.
-Having dual CPUs with all thoughs cores will only work with a software that is properly mulithreaded, premier is definetly not one of those softwares so you not getting any advantage.
- the advantage to Quadro cards are much more noticable in 3d tha 2d. If your running Autodesk maya, 3ds max or the recently disscontinued XSI you would be flying compared to the W7000.
-dual GPU cards do not preform at twice the speed. On average the second card gives about a 10 percent boost.
-At present ( and as akways) , nividia Quadro drivers are much more uptodate and bug free compared to ATI highend cards. This will inevitably change as openCL over takes openGL, until then Quadros are the clearly superior cards for those with DEEP pockets.
-I think you would have been far better off with a single Quadro 6000 vs dual K4000s. Also any higher end ATI firepro card would have worked since Premier now uses open CL and no longer needs openGL. Main advantage to Quadro at this point ( besides 3D ) is to be compatible with the most softwares and get the best and most optimized drivers. Firepros will work properly in far fewer softwares at this point but I can see a day over the next few years this may change but not as of yet in 2014. So his W7000 wins this sprint race in this single simple example but in most any other situations your cards will actually work and win. I like saving money like the next guy but I even purchase Quadro cards for my home use and experimenting, but Im not a gamer.
-FYI: Cuda core count no longer is true measure. For example older Fermi cards worked at twice the frequency than the newer kepler architecture so in effect today you need double ( actually more) the amount of cuda cores to equal the older cards. Also the true compute power in the new Keplers is also much inferior to the older cards. Its all creative advertiseing today more akin to creative accounting / smoke and mirrors. What im trying to explain is when people read the charts that show the cuda core count and say the higest is best is completely not true. It may have the most "cores" but it will not render correctly, double percision is missing, colors may pop, anti aliasing is inferior and inconsistant, interaction ( most important) and shaders will be buggy or missing. There are very good reasons people spend money on highend Quadro cards but the charts and reviews generically speaking never understand or can even test for this stuff.
-Even given the above scenarios your Z820 should be killing your competition. Using a decked out Z820 is way overkill for anything CC. ( Kinda like driving an F1 to get groceries.) get your HP rep to come over and replace / test your rig. Its free and covered in your coverage.
I am CLEARLY not a tech guy as my talent in is creation and design but I overhear the tech guys talking.

Help with starting a Warranty service on a Quadro k4000 c2j94at

I'm trying to get a replacement Video Card, because mine failed two days after I plugged it in. I would have returned it to the online store where I purchasing it, but it took 2 months to assembly the custom built computer. So now I trying to deal with getting HP to acknowledge that they own the warranty service on this product that has their name all over it. I've managed to verify my warrenty on the HP warranty check site, and it comes up just fine. I've got a screen shot with the product number and serial number saying it's covered until 2017-04-08, but when trying to link this under "Contracts and Warranties" it fails to find my serial number and product number.
I've tried multiple times to contact HP service by phone and chat, but I've been hung up on 3 times and endlessly transfered and hung up on, and every support rep. just says it's not my problem, or "I don't know what a Graphics Card is, sir", or "what computer is this in?". I've got a $1000 dollar piece of junk on my desk, and my machine is running on some $20 video card that just doesn't cut it.
Does anybody know how to get through to HP service? How do I contact someone who deals with individual sold hardware computer components? Apparently there's a forum for Hardware, but is there a phone number for service?

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Photoshop CS6 hardware accelleration with FirePro M6100, Quadro K3100M & Quadro K5100M

I'm going to buy a Dell M6800 Precision Mobile Workstation for my wife. I'm trying to decide whether to buy it with a FirePro M6100 video card or an NVidia Quadro K3100M video card. The M6100 seems to be more powerful and cost less than the K3100M. However, she'll be using the computer with Photoshop & Illustrator CS6. I've been reading that CS6 only supports video hardware acceleration with NVidia graphics cards with Cuda.
Does Photoshop & Illustrator CS6 support GPU Acceleration with the FirePro M6100? If so, do all features in Photoshop & Illustrator CS6 work with the M6100, or are there features that will only work with nVidia vidio cards?
Will GPU Acceleration be supported as installed? I just have a Dell M6800 with an NVidia Quadro K5100M graphics. I've installed CS6 Production Premium and had to add the Quadro K5100M video card to the "Cuda_Supported_Cards.txt" file in order to use the "Mercury Playback Engine (Hardware)" option. Is there a similar fix I'll need to apply for Photoshop CS6, or will GPU Acceleration work with the FirePro M6100 and Quadro K3100M as installed?

Chris,
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. I've been preoccupied with configuring a couple new computers and this is only one of the issues I've been dealing with.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Your answer coupled with the answers I got on the Premiere Pro forum helped me make a much better decision.
I decided to go with the FirePro M6100 for my wife's computer because most of her work is done in Photoshop & Illustrator CS6, and if she needs GPU acceleration in Premiere Pro CS6, she can use my computer.
Appreciatively,
Brian Scura...

10 bit monitor option without Quadro

Hi All,
The Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 is considerably more powerful in many ways than the NVIDIA Quadro K4000 and about £350 cheaper. For Video work this is accepted but I also edit in Photoshop, where the handling of 10 bits [K4000] would be a definite advantage.
Would anyone know if there is a PCIe card that can be added to provide 10 bit monitor output whilst maintaining the superior performance of the 780.
I use an Asus P9X79-E WS MB with 32 Gb of Dominator Platinum DDR3 installed, so I don't believe slot suitability or memory should be an issue.
Best Regards,
LJ
As a footnote I'm not interested in 3D Graphics or Cad, just Video/Still editing and the usual MS Office Apps.

Yes that would be correct. I believe the Quadro drivers now include the Geforce drivers again but I have not checked in a while. If they don't you have to uninstall the current Geforce drivers installed. Then install the latest Quadro performance driver for the card. If the Geforce doesn't install at that point then you want to manually install the GeForce driver. To do that simply run the latest Geforce installer till it extracts to the Nvidia directory. Then cancel the install. Go to device manager and double click on the Display adapter for the 780GTX. Select the driver tab and then update driver. Point the folder location to the Nvidia directory for the Geforce driver. That will manually install the driver without effecting the Quadro installs.
Eric
ADK

GPU for After Effects

I need to know the certified GPU card for AE GPU-accelerate,because your System requirements about After Effects was not written clearly.And I still don't understand why the certified GPU for premiere and AE is not same??

CC 14 gives you the option of trying an unsupported card and it works just fine for the new Macs. I have two brand new ones with NVIDIA cards and they are working perfectly. The only published list is in the System Requirements.
The following NVIDIA GPUs are supported in After Effects CS6.
Mac:
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GT 650M*
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
It's a starting point, but with the move to supporting the Mercury playback engine it makes a lot more sense to look at the PPro System requirements when picking a card for AE.
From the PPro System Requirements page.
Supported AMD and NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
Windows CUDA:
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 470
GeForce GTX 570
GeForce GTX 580
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GTX 690
GeForce GTX 770
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780
GeForce GTX 780M
GeForce GTX TITAN
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 3700M
Quadro FX 3800
Quadro FX 3800M
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro FX 5800
Quadro 2000
Quadro 2000D
Quadro 2000M
Quadro 3000M
Quadro 4000
Quadro 4000M
Quadro 5000
Quadro 5000M
Quadro 5010M
Quadro 6000
Quadro K1100M
Quadro K2000
Quadro K2100M
Quadro K2000M
Quadro K3000M
Quadro K4000
Quadro K4100M
Quadro K4000M
Quadro K5000
Quadro K5000M
Quadro K6000
Tesla C2050
Tesla C2070
Tesla C2075
Tesla M2050
Tesla M2070
Tesla K10
Mac CUDA:
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780M
Quadro CX
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro 4000
Quadro K5000
Windows OpenCL:
AMD Radeon HD 6650M
AMD Radeon HD 6730M
AMD Radeon HD 6750
AMD Radeon HD 6750M
AMD Radeon HD 6770
AMD Radeon HD 6770M
AMD Radeon HD 6950
AMD Radeon HD 6970
AMD Radeon HD 7510M
AMD Radeon HD 7530M
AMD Radeon HD 7550M
AMD Radeon HD 7570
AMD Radeon HD 7570M
AMD Radeon HD 7590M
AMD Radeon HD 7610M
AMD Radeon HD 7630M
AMD Radeon HD 7650M
AMD Radeon HD 7670
AMD Radeon HD 7670M
AMD Radeon HD 7690M
AMD Radeon HD 7730M
AMD Radeon HD 7750
AMD Radeon HD 7750M
AMD Radeon HD 7770
AMD Radeon HD 7770M
AMD Radeon HD 7850
AMD Radeon HD 7850M
AMD Radeon HD 7870
AMD Radeon HD 7970M
AMD Radeon HD 7950
AMD Radeon HD 7970
AMD Radeon HD 8470
AMD Radeon HD 8550M
AMD Radeon HD 8570
AMD Radeon HD 8570M
AMD Radeon HD 8670
AMD Radeon HD 8670M
AMD Radeon HD 8690M
AMD Radeon HD 8730M
AMD Radeon HD 8740
AMD Radeon HD 8750M
AMD Radeon HD 8760
AMD Radeon HD 8770M
AMD Radeon HD 8790M
AMD Radeon HD 8870
AMD Radeon HD 8950
AMD Radeon HD 8970
AMD Radeon HD 7480D
AMD Radeon HD 7540D
AMD Radeon HD 7560D
AMD Radeon HD 7660D
AMD Radeon R7
AMD Radeon R9 290
AMD FirePro M2000
AMD FirePro V3900
AMD FirePro M4000
AMD FirePro V4900
AMD FirePro W5000
AMD FirePro V5900
AMD FirePro M5950
AMD FirePro M6000
AMD FirePro S7000
AMD FirePro W7000
AMD FirePro V7900
AMD FirePro W8000
AMD FirePro S9000
AMD FirePro W9000
AMD FirePro S10000
Intel Iris Graphics 5100
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200
Mac OpenCL:
ATI Radeon HD 6750M
ATI Radeon HD 6770M
AMD Radeon HD 7950
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D300
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D500
AMD Radeon HD FirePro D700
GeForce GT 650M
GeForce GT 750M
GeForce GT 755M
GeForce GTX 675MX
GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 680MX
GeForce GTX 775M
GeForce GTX 780M
Quadro K5000
Intel Iris Graphics 5100
Intel Iris Pro Graphics 5200

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