Firewire 800 express card 34

I'm finding it impossible to purchase one of these cards in the UK
Anyone had any luck? products to avoid? compatibility issues?
Would be very grateful
S

Buy one on eBay and ask the seller if they ship it UK.

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Confused! LaCie FireWire 800 PC Card

Greetings!
I purchased an Iomega 250 GB external hard drive. Because my notebook doesn't have an 800 Mbps port I also purchased a LaCie FireWire 800 PC card. I was aleady to hook all of this up today, when I discovered that the LaCie card has 2 FireWire 800 bilingual ports compatible with FireWire 400/1394a products. It also has 1 FireWire 400 6-pin port. The Iomega ext. hard drive has 2 FireWire 800 (1394b) ports and 1 FireWire 400 port and a USB 2.0 port.
Does a "bilingual" port on the LaCie mean that both a 1394a and a 1394b cable will work in the same port? If not, then how do you get the LaCie FireWire 800 PC card to work at 800Mbps?
Thank you in advance!!!
tenntooter (back again after a long time out of town.)

The information provided was helpful. I purchased the iomega external hard drive and an Lacie card, but I haven't been able to get these working properly. I only worked on this for a short time though, and I now have time to work on this some more. I'm sure that I've overlooked something. I'll get it to work I'm certain.
Thank you!

Is my Firewire 800 PCI card fried?

A couple of days ago my G4 with Sonnet dual 1.8 Ghz processors woke up. There was an immediate warning on my screen in five languages that something bad had happened. I rebooted and all was OK, except my G-RAID 320 gig wouldn't mount. I had it connected via Firewire 800. There was nothing I could do to get it on my desktop, including swapping cables. It shows up fine if I connect via Firewire 400.
I just tried it again after installing Leopard, and it still won't mount via FW 800. My thoughts are that my LaCie FW 800 PCI card is blown and I'll need to replace it. Any other ideas?

Hi! Try resetting the pmu. Press the button once with all external cables unhooked. Tom
Here's an example of the button location.
QS/DA
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FW800
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Sawtooth
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MDD
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Firewire PCI Express cards

I'm sorry if this is semi-redundant with the usb pci express card page already posted, but I was wondering if anyone knew if either of these would work on the Mac Pro:
http://www.aaxeon.com/products/Productdetail.aspx?cate=8&modelno=FWB3414#specs
http://www.macmall.com/macmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=709052
If so, does anyone have any experience with either or know which is better? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Mac Pro

I checked OWC and they are saying Aaxeon for any PCIe Mac (dual core, quad, and Mac Pro). SIIG is probably, as usual, just reselling and putting their name on someone else's (and probably someone else's firmware, too).
I don't like the "20MB/sec writes based on manuf's tests" part though. But I probably will pick one up nonetheless.

Firewire 800/Express 34

Can someone show me where to find a list of components that work with these slots? I can't seem to find any.

If you haven't googled, try that. I know LaCie and Maxtor make external disk drives that support FW800.

FW Express card

for some reason i can't post in the Mac book pro forum, but wondered if anyone was using or had a recommendation for a Firewire 800 Express card.
I have a WD 800 HD and Saffire pro 26 (fw400). I want to put my drive on a separate bus and get max speed. Anyone know if you actually get the full 800 speed using express card (another user posted a speed test with 56mbs instead of 80mbs when using express card)
cheers
JD

FWIW, For maximum HD speed, your best bet is to get an Express Card eSATA controller... and use an eSATA HD.
I'm doing this - note that under Leopard, there are some compatibility issues in the driver for the Sil3132 (the chip inside virtually all the current expresscard eSATA cards), that cause a variety of issues if you have an external HD that has multiple interfaces (ie, USB+eSATA, FW+eSATA etc).
On my WD MyBook drive, the disk hangs after half an hour or so, so I've moved this back to the FW port until these issues get resolved in the next driver version. My other audio drive is Ok on eSATA I think...
It is pleasantly faster than FW....

Sonnet Firewire 800 Expresscard/34

The Sonnet firewire 800 express card doesn't work with latest mac os 10.5.2 update, I try also on another macbook pro (same hardware config.) with 10.5.0 and doesn't work either. I think problems are Mac os X 10.5.x drivers, because the system mount the card and in System profiler I can see the PCI Express line 3/4 hosting the firewire controller and PCI controller, but plugging any hardisk resoult in nothing mounted on desktop. The card is ok tested on a Windows laptop.
Does anyone know a solution?
Thanks

Hi All,
I solved the problems with Sonnet's FW800 card on my own MacBook Pro/10.5.2 system so wanted to post here for the benefit of others using 10.5.x and the Sonnet card. There are at least two potential sources of the problem:
1) From Sonnet tech support -- Try this trick and see if it helps:
Delete and empty trash for the three (3) following files and directories:
/System/Library/Extensions.mkext (a file)
/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.kernelcaches (a directory)
/System/Library/Caches/com.apple.romextensions (a directory)
The last directory might not exist so don't worry about it if it isn't there. Restart after you do this so OS X will rebuild some of the files.
2) TCP/IP networking -- simply disable it (Off rather than DHCP or Manual) on one or both of your Firewire interfaces in System Prefs/Networking. This is what made things start working for me on my own system.
Good luck!
OS X can get confused if you add in peripheral cards that are duplicating function that exists already. The above often cures that problem.

Express cards 34 for video capture.

Forum,
Should I go for eSATA or Firewire 800 Express card 34?
I have an iomega UltraMax Hard Drive.
USB/Firewire 800/eSATA.
Thank you.
Michael Craven.

Either will work depending on how you set it up (I have both types of cards for my MacBook Pro.) Usually I set the eSata Card/Drive to capture and plug the camera into the FW Port on the computer. Captured hundreds of hours this way.
Or you can just the FW card. (Do not recall what you are capturing but for DV and HDV this works fine.)

Firewire 400 express 34 card

Does anyone know where I can pickup a firewire 400 express card?

Why would you want a FW400 card? The MBP already has a FW400 port. Might make more sense to get a FW800 card such as the NitroAV (www.akumen.com.)
I believe SIIG has a FW400 card (www.siig.com.) A Google search should find more.

SATA II verses Firewire 800 External Hard Drive

I want to add a 500MB external disk to a 866MHz G4. I have bought LaCie products before and had no problems so I was looking at their offerings.
The two main choices I see are:
A. 500GB Big Disk that supports Firewire 800 + Firewire 800 PCI card.
Issues
1. I can connect the disk to my iBook using Firewire 400
2. If I got a new Mac it will probably come with Firewire 800 so can be used.
3. Available now.
B. 500GB Two Big disk (shipping 2/1) that supports SATA II and comes with a SATA II PCI card.
Issues
1. Better access speed (looks like 115MB/s v 75-80MB/s)
2. The SATA II card will not work in a new Mac as it is PCI/PCIX and not PCI Express.
3. Cannot connect to my iBook.
3. Shipping 2/1.
The price difference is only $30 more for the SATA II.
I am trying to figure out if the improved performance of the SATA II drive will be significant enough to be the deciding factor. Or is the performance difference not going to be that noticeable and the convenience of Firewire would be a better choice.
Any experiences/thoughts?
Thanks,
-Tony
866 G4 Mac OS X (10.4.4)

Thanks for all the info:-)
Both the LaCie external drives I was looking at are stripped RAIDs with two 250GB drives.
The Firewire 800 drive also has a Firewire 400 and USB 2.0 port so I am assuming that means I can use a standard Firewire 400 cable.
The LaCie SATA II card comes with the drive, has multiple ports and does claim to support booting.
I will check on the deep sleep issue with regards to the LaCie 800 card.
If I were to get a new Mac I would probably replace the desktop machine. I wondered if Apple would adopt SATA II in place of Firewire 800. I seemed to be getting the impression that Firewire 800 has not been very popular but external SATA drives are getting more popular. Plus SATA II seemes to offer better performance than Firewire 800.
I was intending to use the drive for video editing DV material using FinalCut Pro so disk performance may be more noticeable. That is why I was looking at striped RAID drives.
-Tony

FW400 vs. Express card FW800? For Pro Tools?

Has anyone read anything at all about spec comparisons for sustained throughput on FW800 thru an Express Card? Will it end up being much faster than the stock FW400 connection?
If anyone has seen any articles, etc. I'm more than interested. I'd like to make sure that I don't blow a chunk of $$ on a 400 drive if the 800/Express card will give me more digital tracks of audio. I'll be limited to 48 tracks in Pro Tools anyway either way. Just don't have a lot of experience with the FW drives. Was running 7,200 SATA on the old PC.

I used to use this:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10511
With:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10482
On my D*ll laptop (MBP on order now though and i have to say the difference between FW800 and both FW400 and USB2.0 was quite noticeable when rendering video to it (using Premiere Pro 1.5) So i would say that if you can afford it... do it, it'll probably pay for itself quite quickly if you're a professional user.
Or if you want to go hardcore..
Get this:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vydeo-Announces-Dual-Port-eSATA-ExpressCard-34-Fo r-MacBook-Pro-21050.shtml
and use it with this:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10490
Should cover you for pretty much everything for a while to come

Best Express Card?

I have a Sony A1U and I want to begin taping in 1080i and editing on my MacBook Pro Dual Core. Does anyone have any experience with the cards listed below? I plan on purchasing a card tonight or tomorrow morning, but I would like to know if those on my list are good. If those are not good, can you post a solid express card...sata or fw800? my only problem with SATA, is that I can't find any portable, bus powered SATA drives like the Lacie All-Terrain.
The cards I am reviewing to purchase :
Belkin FW 800 Express Card
SIIG FW 800, 1-Port card
2-Port NitroAV FireWire800/1394b Pro Express Card (34mm)

Check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3A IT&viewitem=&item=120044861033&rd=1&rd=1
Supports MacOSX, Linux, Windows with RAID and FIC based switching (port multiplier), so you can use one cable to connect up to 5 drives. Thats 10 drives for this card in total.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-Bay-HotSwap-SATA-eSATA-PORT-MULTIPLIER-Enclosure-Case_W0 QQitemZ120083480944QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3757QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem
This is one of those cases which comes with port multiplier. It's big and heavy, but you can get up to 300 Mbytes/s drive speed (have to use 4 or more drives for that).
I just bought all of this equipment and waiting for it to come .
Here is official web site for SATA technology info:
http://www.sata-io.org/portmultiplier.asp
Regards,
Ayrat.
MBP 15.4" Core Duo 2.16Ghz, 1GB DDR2, 256 GDDR3, 100GB HDD Mac OS X (10.4.8) + Windows XP Pro SP2

Experience with Iomega 250GB Ext Drive & Lacie PCMCIA to Firewire 800?

Hi!
I bought an Iomega 250GB Ext. Hard Drive and I'm contemplating buying a Lacie PCMCIA to Firewire 800 PC card for my PowerBook G4 (the G4 is older and does not have built in Firewire 800 capability.) Has anyone had experience with this configuration? I'd like to know if there have been any problems trying to go with this configuration before I buy the Lacie card. If there are problems with this set-up then my best choice it appears would be to use the Firewire 400 port on the laptop and on the ext. drive. (There is also USB 1.1/2.0 capability.) Anyone with experience in this area please advise.
Thank you!
tenntooter

Hi t,
I haven't had experience with this setup, but ran across this test sometime ago. They tested the LaCie card you're looking at with a Ti 800MHz with no issues.
(There is also USB 1.1/2.0 capability.)
Take my word for it, you don't want to use USB1 (major slow) and to use USB2, you'd need to buy a PCMCIA card to USB2 adapter anyway. Even then, in real-world transfers, FW400 is faster than USB2, so if your FW port is working, there's no reason to go the USB2 route.

ESATA PCI Express card not being recognized

I have a Macbook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.8 GHz and I'm having trouble getting an eSATA PCI Express card to be recognized in either MAS OS X (10.5.6) or Win XP SP3.
When I plug a FireWire PCI Express card into the slot with a drive attached it gets recognized right away but the eSATA doesn't.
I can go into the system profiler when the card is plugged in and MAC OS X sees the card but the drive doesn't get mounted, or there is no prompt for me to initialize the drive (if it's a new, non-formatted drive). I've tried installing the driver that comes with the eSATA card with no change.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what I can try?

Does anyone have any ideas as to what I can try?
Hi,
Typically, this type of issue is caused by an incompatible enclosure or a card problem.
Please provide a link to the card and the enclosure for additional help. If you need an ExprressCard/enclosure combination that works I would suggest FirmTek.
http://firmtek.stores.yahoo.net/sata2ensm2e.html
http://www.amug.org/amug-web/html/amug/reviews/articles/firmtek/2en2/
Have fun!

NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card (34)

After some foot dragging by FireWire direct, today I finally received the NitroAV FireWire 800/1394b Express Card ordered almost a month ago.
First Impressions: Unimpressive at best.
According to the FireWire direct rep, it is supposed to work using the Mac OS built in drivers and require no additional driver....
Upon first insertion, my MacBook Pro promptly went into a kernel panic.
NOT a good introductory performance!
Upon restart, I did get the thing to work, "sort of".
First, it requires AC power even with a 2.5" external drive meant for bus power. Bummer, but so be it. However, less acceptable: it is VERY fussy about sequence, reminding me of evil SCSI voodoo rituals from the past century. Seems it only likes to work once- if I remove the card, it requires a reboot to recognize anything attached to it subsequently.
Functionality is intermittent. Sometimes I can mount and unmount a drive several times in a row, sometimes just once before it fails to recognize the drive and requires another reboot. One drive it took a long time to recognize but eventually it did- only to freeze up rock solid soon thereafter requiring an uncomfortable long push on the power button to shut down- nothing else worked. That drive was a known to be working Lacie, the first a known to be working WiebeTech and both are totally reliable on my G5 and previously completely reliable on the MacBook Pro using the integrated FireWire 400 port.
Unscientific results so far show a modest speed increase transferring a few large files, nothing like double the FireWire 800 speed hoped for. In any case if it ain't reliable it ain't gettin' used. Hoping for a driver solution in 10.4.7? (Wishful thinking)
No one likes a fussy device, much less one doomed to corrupting directories with that kind of behavior. I'm disappointed with Apple for omitting the FireWire 800 port on the 15 inch model and leaving us with this cheesy "solution".
I am not a big fan of dongles, or things like Express cards which are just asking for trouble by introducing intermediary third party connectivity issues exactly like these...
Oh yeh, and the little metal door on the Express Card slot tends to hang open and not snap closed- just to add insult to the whole process.

Well, after two days of use I have a bit of data regarding the NitroAV (and Apple's implementation of ExpressCard/34).
First some general observations: like bigwheel, there are a few too many rough edges to be fully pleased. After inserting the card, a menu bar icon appears next to the Airport icon. On mouse over, the drop down shows "Unknown Vendor" and "Firewire Controller" are greyed out, while the 3rd "Power off Card" is selectable but does NOT power down the card. Looks like I have to shut down the MBP, then eject the Nitro card.
I also can confirm intermittent unmounting and remounting. My latest experiment is to leave the drive mounted and then have it wake up after sleep. So far it's worked once, but will post if it continues to find my FW 800 drive over time.
One major design flaw of the ExpressCard implementation - to engage the card you push in until it clicks, while to disengage the card you merely push in a second time. But how are you supposed to ATTACH FW800 cables?? I find I have to try to hold the ExpressCard firmly so it doesn't go in while fumbling with the FW800 connector. WAY too fussy...
OK, here's some actual test data, involving transfers of 1,000 MB of files (147 Canon RAW files, approx 7 MB each).
I used three hard drives for various transfers -
1. Internal stock 100 GB - 5400 rpm (TOSHIBA MK1032GSX)
2. FW 800 / 400 500 GB - 7200 rpm (Seagate 3500841A in OWC Mercury Elite case)
3. FW 800 / 400 250 GB - La Cie 7200 rpm drive
All test are transfer of 1 GB of files from HD to HD-
Test 1: Internal to FW 400 - 68 seconds
Test 2: Internal to FW 800 - 65 seconds
Test 3: MBP built in FW 400 daisy-chained - 54 seconds
Test 4: Nitro FW 800 daisy chained - 43 seconds
Test 5: Nitro FW 800 port A to Nitro FW 800 port B - 43 seconds
Test 6: MBP built in FW 400 to Nitro FW 800 - 35 seconds
So it looks like there is some speed increase, but I was surprised that mixing the FW 400 and FW 800 ports gave the fastest transfer speeds! The Nitro card is dependent on Apple's implementation of buses, and this seems to be the winning combo. Not that intuitive that shifting one of the FW 800 devices down to FW 400 will speed things up, but that's what my simple test seemed to imply.
I didn't test read times only, but it would seem that these should speed up (and hopefully speed up my primary application of Aperture).
MBP 2.0, 2GB Mac OS X (10.4.6)

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