Firewire devices no longer showing

This afternoon - for the first time in years - no firewire device showed up either on the Desktop or in the Apple Profiler.
Restarted several times with no success.
Devices on Firewire 400 (via bus) external CD reader/writer and DVD ditto.
Devices on Firewire 800, three LaCie drives linked together. Tried each one separately, no success.
Which is bit of a pain, these being my backup and ancillary storage devices ...
Disconnected them all. Restarted G5. Closed down and left G5 for half-an-hour (following a suggestion in a forum). Reconnected, restarted; no joy.
Console message includes:
Jun  6 14:50:03 localhost kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 42 built-in now active, GUID 001124ff fe86cb20; max speed s800.
and then, at the bottom of the report:
Jun  6 14:52:47 SarahJane kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 42 built-in: no valid selfIDs for more than 2 minutes after bus reset.
Jun  6 14:55:59 SarahJane kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 42 built-in: no valid selfIDs for more than 2 minutes after bus reset.
Jun  6 14:59:11 SarahJane kernel[0]: FireWire (OHCI) Apple ID 42 built-in: no valid selfIDs for more than 2 minutes after bus reset.
Can anyone help, please? I've run all the usual things, hardware check, diskwarrior, techtool (though none of these seem to check the firewire bus).

Right - had a look through, and after two attempts (mutter mutter and splutter curses) got everything going again.
The cure was, in this case, as listed in your first link: disconnect computer etc.
The first time the CD reader came back but the external drives wouldn't, so I said a few words that my wife would not approve of, then tried again but this time connected the (800 fw) external drives first, and then, when the buggers showed up, connected the cd drive on the 400 cable. I think the dvd drive on the 400 has died, so I'll leave that disconnected.
Oh it's a great machine when it's running right, it's a lovely gadget to play with; but when something goes wrong it can be very frustrating ...
I sometimes wish I'd had one of these when I was still at school and a little quicker on the uptake.

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