Firewire drive mounting question

I have a portable firewire 800 drive I just purchased. I am using for live capture of video. Yesterday I set up for a shoot about 10min before start of show. Plugged in drive but it did not mount. I could hear and feel the drive spinning but it did not show up. I have a expresscard two slot 800 ports. Tried it through expresscard and computer 800 slot. I did a repair permission and it still did not mount. Restarted also. Powered off, unplugged it, no go. Unplugged again and it showed up.
My question, is there steps for trouble shooting mounting problems? I had to use tape for about ten minutes.

Repair permissions won't be a help. Sounds like a marginal FW drive - who made it?

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You wrote:
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