Firewire drives and TM Backup

My brand new Maxtor 1TB drive kept dropping the connection during large TM sessions. The fix (so far) for me was to update to 10.5.6. The combination of TM and Carbon Copy Cloner is awesome. Has anyone else has FW conection problems with the Maxtor 1TB drive? (no push button)

I am having the same problem with Western Digital MyBook (1TB). But only if Time Machine is active. The drive will unmount randomly.

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Lost the access to the first partion of the firewire drive and the data ?

Hello to everybody,
after i moved 5,5GB Data from my internal harddisk, HFS+ , to my external Firewire drive, FAT 32 formatted for compatilibilty with a PC, i lost the access to the first partion of the firewire drive and the data. At first after having appearently finished copying the data a lot of ununderstable numbers and letters appeared on the first partion and couldn't be opened.
Using first aid showed the following messages:
1.
volume „disk2s5“ testing
** /dev/disk2s5
** Phase 1 - Read FAT
** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains
** Phase 3 - Checking Directories
Root directory doesn't start a cluster chain
Error: the basic (????? ) process shows an error by finishing (-9972)
German original message:
Fehler: Der zugrundeliegende Prozess meldete einen Fehler beim Beenden. (-9972)
2.
volume „disk2s5“ testing
** /dev/disk2s5
** Phase 1 - Read FAT
** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains
** Phase 3 - Checking Directories
Root directory doesn't start a cluster chain
Error: the basic (????? ) process shows an error by finishing (-9972)
German original message:
Fehler: Der zugrundeliegende Prozess meldete einen Fehler beim Beenden. (-9972)
Volume „FIRE2“ testing
** /dev/disk2s6
** Phase 1 - Read FAT
** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains
** Phase 3 - Checking Directories
** Phase 4 - Checking for Lost Files
16 files, 726592 free (1880420 clusters)
Volume „FIRE 3“ testing
Mounting Disk** /dev/disk2s7
** Phase 1 - Read FAT
** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains
** Phase 3 - Checking Directories
** Phase 4 - Checking for Lost Files
149 files, 2866032 free (441271 clusters)
Volume „FIRE 4“ testing
Mounting Disk** /dev/disk2s8
** Phase 1 - Read FAT
** Phase 2 - Check Cluster Chains
** Phase 3 - Checking Directories
** Phase 4 - Checking for Lost Files
2755 files, 1396016 free (873683 clusters)
3 Volumes tested
0 HFS-Volumes tested
2 Volumes with an other type than HFS tested
1 Volume couldn't be tested
1 Volume wasn't tested
3.
First Aid interrupted the testing of "disk2s5" because the the following error has appeared:
the basic (????? ) process shows an error by finishing
German orignal message:
Das Festplatten-Dienstprogramm hat überprüfen „disk2s5“ unterbrochen, da der folgende Fehler aufgetreten ist:
Der zugrundeliegende Prozess meldete einen Fehler beim Beenden.
As i translated the First Aid messages from german to english they will probably look a bit different in english but i hope you get the idea.
So what can i do to regain access to the first partion and the data ?
If i have to use the terminal then please !!! step by step as i don't have any experience in using it
Greetings and thanks in advance for any hints
Lutz
PD: i was just arranging my data into different categories so could later burn a backup when this happened
g4 AGP 400 MHz Mac OS X (10.3.9) 768 MB SDRAM

Yep, you sure can. That's how I support my family's computers. I just entered their dynamic hostname in ARD, and it always updates their IP address in the ARD list should they have changed.

I just added two external firewire drives and they keep going to sleep. I did not have this problem when USB. I have turned off "put disks to sleep" in power preference.

I just added two external firewire drives and they keep going to sleep. I did not have this problem when using USB external drives. I have turned off "put disks to sleep" in power preference.

It is not clear if these are the same drives, just connected
differently, or different drives?
One thing that may be happening is that the drives firmware
itself is putting it to sleep when inactive. Many drives on
the market have ths feature and it is turned on by default
and require a drive utility from the manufacturer to disable it.

Storing music on Firewire drive and sharing it with Win2000 laptop too

I just got a new 24"iMac and managed to transfer most of my music over from my g4 with a backup of my library. Now, I also have a 160gb Firewire drive that is empty and would like to make a second library of music of just all my cd's around 350 or so and be able to access this from my iMac and also share this music with a Panasonic Toughbook laptop running Windows 2000 with a 100gb hard drive. Anyone done similar / same thing ?? I looked at other posts for an hour or so and just got more confused LOL and was hoping for a direct answer.

as long as the music is on the external drive it does not matter what type of computer you use to access as long as each computer runs itunes. when activating itunes in either os hold down the alt/option button and it will give you the option to access a different library. the complete directions are in itunes help on your computer.

New Hard Drive and Iphone Backups

Hi I am migrating to Windows 7 from Windows XP next week and I have purchased a new hard drive to install the new OS. My Itunes and Iphone backups are on the old windows XP hard drive which I want to wipe clean for future storage. How can I move to Win 7 without losing all of my contacts, music, apps etc that are currently on my Iphone 3G? Is there a way to move the iphone backup file to another location( ie: flash drive) before I install the new OS? Or is there a way to get the data that's on my Iphone to download to the newly installed Itunes/Windows 7 hard drive? Thanks I

The iPhone's backup does not include all content available on the iPhone. The backup does not include any iTunes content including 3rd party apps, and it doesn't include any photos transferred from your computer to your iPhone via the iTunes sync process.
All iTunes content including 3rd party apps is stored in an iTunes folder. You can copy the iTunes folder to your backup drive.
Contacts are designed to be synced with a supported application on your computer. This can be with Outlook 2003 or 2007 along with calendar events, or with the address book used by Outlook Express call Windows Contacts for contact info only.
If you copy the iTunes folder to a backup drive and place the iTunes folder in the same location after installing Windows 7, your iPhone should not be erased of all iTunes content with the first sync. All iPhone data is not erased regardless including contact info and calendar events. You also need to place all photos on your computer's hard drive on your backup drive especially any photos that were transferred to your iPhone via the iTunes sync process.

Cloning a drive and mirror backup techniques

Hi all,
I have configured my new Mac Pro and loaded new apps and am at a point now where I want to put together a 'backup plan' for backing up work files and a clone drive of my OS/apps drive. I currently have my OS/apps drive (the orig 320GB) in bay #1.
My 'work files' drive is a seagate 500GB in bay #2. I am not familiar with 'mirror backup' technologies but an ideal backup plan for me would be to have a drive in bay #3 that automatically mirrors anything I do on my 'work' drive in bay #2.
Can anyone help me out with suggestions to accomplish this or have a suggestion on a different backup plan? I also would like to have a clone OS/apps drive in bay #4 in case my main OS/apps drive should go down. Again, an ideal situation in this instance would be that any updates or app adds that I make on drive #1 would automatically be mirrored on clone drive #4. Is there a way to accomplish this without having a RAID array and drives? Also, is there a way to make a clone of my up to date OS/apps drive in bay #1 on a drive in bay #4 without having to load all the software and OS again?
Thanks in advance for any input.
I have found this forum invaluable, especially since upgrading to Mac Pro.
As I was contemplating a while back on the upgrade and asked in this forum
for input on moving to the 24" iMac (which is a great machine) vs. the Mac Pro, someone suggested that the iMac may be more cost effective in the short term but the Mac Pro would ultimately be the most cost effective in terms of expandability. I am so glad I went with the Mac Pro.
Best,
Dennis

If you stay on the small side 1 or 2 external FW800 or eSATA drives work rather well. If you start having 5 or 10 1 - 15 TB hard drives then the mentioned sled type external drives are nice. I have really too many external drive cases. I finally purchased a 4 drive Sonnet eSATA, FW800/400 & USB2 interfaces which requires only 1 cable for any of the 4 types of connections & have easy to change hot-swap drive sleds.
Drive makers usually have s Server class hard drive for the best reliability. Seagate's are called their ES2 line of drives. They come in sizes up to 1 TB. Their Barracuda 7200.11 1.5TB Hard Drives still have a 5 year warranty, but are not rated for 24/7 use.
FW800 is an easier to use external drive connector scheme. And as others have mentioned, a back-up can be done slowly in the back ground so does speed really matter. I do my backups to both internal & external drives. Internal for speed & ease. Then external for safety. If you really have information that could cost you a lot of lost time, effort &/or many then an off-site back copy is very important. This could be kept at your parent's, kid's, brother's, sister's, relative's, friend's or storage off-site storage unit.
My son uses SuperDuper for his clones. I use CarbonCopyCloner most of the time, but I also have a copy of SuperDuper. This is what I use to copy my working system to a new drive, then I keep up the old drive as my backup system. All you have to do is keep the files up to date, or reclone them when there is enough changes made. I like to do the updating & then use the system to be sure that it works way of doing things.
the beauty of all of this is that there are enough different ways that you can find 1, 2 or more of them to meet your current or future needs. As someone else said what works for him, may not work for you.

Why an I losing contact with Firewire drives and camera back?

One of my computers suddenly won't connect to a Phase One digital back via firewire.
Tried to plug in a external drive to check the port. No contact. (Tried various cables, etc.)
Tried camera on another computer. No contact. Tried firewire drives that had been running before on this same computer, and now it won't read these drives.
My PhaseOne dealer assures me that a digital back can't possible fry or disable a port. Still. there they are.
Took one of these drives to yet another computer that connects fine with yet another drive, tried the problem drive, and there was no connection. When I checked About This Mac there was a spinning wheel, as though it were looking for something.
Any thoughts, anyone? I don't want to test more drives if they are being damaged. And if they are, can they be recovered?
Many thanks
Sean Kernan

Hi, John.
1. I presume in Finder Preferences, in the General tab, you've selected "CDs, DVDs, and iPods" under "Show on desktop." Otherwise, FireWire drives won't display on the desktop, but they should still appear in the Finder's Sidebar.
2. If you did not Eject the drive before you disconnected it or powered it off, its partition map may be corrupted. That could explain the symptoms you are seeing. Your FireWire-based digital camera back may be seen as a FireWire drive.
Disconnecting a removable storage device — FireWire drive, USB drive, etc. — without first ejecting it can result in the drive's partition map being corrupted. Before disconnecting such a device, one must first Eject it by either:
- Dragging its icon to the Trash.
- Control-clicking the drive's icon and selecting Eject from its contextual menu.
- In Disk Utility, selecting the device, then selecting Eject in the Disk Utility toolbar.
If there's data on the drive you wish to recover, see my "Data Recovery" FAQ. Once you recover the data you want to save, if any, you will need to repartition and reformat the drive.
3. Before you panic w.r.t. item 2 above, Here is some general troubleshooting advice w.r.t. FireWire devices that may help:(1) Review the AppleCare Knowledge Base document "What to do if your computer won't recognize a FireWire device".
(2) If this problem occurred after installing a recent Mac OS X Update, and you are also unable to mount CDs, DVDs, or disk images perform the steps in this Mac OS X Hints article.
(3) The following additional steps will often help resolve problems with FireWire devices, particularly hard drives:(a) Power-on the FireWire drive before starting up (booting) your Mac.
(b) Reset PRAM and NVRAM.
(c) Reset the PMU or SMU: Select the appropriate knowledge base item for your model of Mac from this KB search. Follow the instructions on resetting the PMU or SMU carefully!
(d) Try a different FireWire port. James Wiebe, CEO of WiebeTech, has published FireWire Port Failures in Host Computers and Peripheral Devices, a white paper providing backgroud information and technical analysis concerning the causes of failure for FireWire ports. This may provide additional diagnostic information.
(e) Check with the manufacturer of your FireWire drive or enclosure to see if any firware updates are available for such.(4) Hopefully, the partition map on the FireWire drive is not damaged. If it still refuses to mount, you may need to employ data recovery tools or services: see my "Data Recovery" FAQ.Note that some of the information above is from the "FireWire Problems" chapter of my book, Troubleshooting Mac® OS X.
PS: You've not provided any info about the computer in question, i.e. Mac model, installed RAM, installed version of Mac OS X, etc. That's always important to include in a post, and I suggest you add it to your profile: click "My Settings" in the upper-right section of the sidebar on the right side of this page.
Dr. Smoke
Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
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Xserve Not Mounting Firewire Drive and Keyboard Not Working On KVM Switch

A couple of days ago I was swapping out my monthly firewire(800) backup to put the daily one back in place and my daily firewire backup drive will not mount. I've tried swapping out the cables, tried USB and Firewire400 with no avail. I tested the drive on my G5 and whapaa it mounted right away and the data is readable. For some reason my Xserve ignores it. I checked that the lock is in the unlock position so that's not the issue. I ran an xrdiags test last night and it came out fine. I also applied all of the latest updates. HELP!!!
Not sure if this is related, but my Xserve has begun to ignore my KVM switch so I have not direct keyboard/mouse connection. What could be the problem?
The backup drives are Western Digital My Books.

Problem fixed. Follow the instructions on this KB article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=88338
So if you ever have these symptoms, follow the instrucions above, it works like a charm.
Thanks for your input DP.

IMac won't recognize my external hard drive, and cannot backup onto it.

Time machine fault with Western Digital "my book" external drive
In trying to select a backup disc I follow these steps:
I have the drop down panel from Time machine preferences which asks me to select "time machine" by clicking on the "use for backup" button.
When I do this message appears,
"You do not have appropriate access privileges to save file “.0016cb83cfe5” in folder “Time Machine Backups”.
How do I set up "My book" to start backing up again? It was originally installed and backed everything up without a problem, but although the icon still appears on my desktop time machine will not backup.
Hope there is a simple explanation folks!

Welcome to Discussions compuvic!
I believe you're experiencing a problem that happened with the 10.5.6 update. There is a workaround found by V.K in [this thread|http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8668572#8668572]. If you follow the instrux it should work.
/p

Is it possible to use 2 firewire drives as TM backup with raid?

It seems that RAID is used for a lot of things, but I haven't been able to figure out if this is a proper use.
I have two hard drives. (1 TB/320 GB) I'd like to format the two drives into one using RAID in Disk Utility and use fore Time Machine backups. Is this possible or advisable? If this would work, is there a limit to the number of drives in a RAID setup?
Thanks.

It's certainly possible to use a proper RAID with Time Machine, but you don't have the drives to create a proper RAID. A proper RAID system should be built using identical drives - same capacity, same brand and ideally, even the same firmware.
-phil

Looking for release dates of Apple external hard drive and Tape Backup 40SC

Does anyone know the release date of these two SCSI drives? If you can ballpark it that would help, but please indicate how certain you are.
1. "Apple External Hard Drive", 730MB
Image: http://www.bigkey.com/pic/apple/drives/apple2_gig_external_harddisk.jpg
2. Apple "Tape Backup 40SC"
Image: http://www.borkware.com/rants/stuc-on-you/AppleTapeBackup2.jpg

Re: the Hard Drive.
I have an Apple brochure dated Feb 1989 that offers the Apple hard Drives: 20SC, 40SC, 80SC, and 160SC \[and that's all].
My recollection of the drive you pictured is that it was mildly scandalous because they were not even made by Apple -- they were made by a prominent (in those days) drive reseller with the Apple logo on them.
RE: the tape drive
I bought my first Mac, a Mac II, in late 1987. Apple Unix was soon offered for it, but there was no practical way to issue the software except to buy a Hard Drive 80 with Apple Unix pre-installed. The tape backup unit pictured was available some time later, but was far too expensive to use for issuing software.

Bad flash drive and dmg backup

Hi everyone!
I updated my Mac Book Air and restarted as required. I didn't realize my 16GB flash drive was still connected and on the reboot, the drive became unreadable. I created an image using Disk Utility as it could not be verified nor repaired. Now I am trying restore from the Disk Utility as I can not even get the flash drive to show up. It's as if it doesn't exist when I plug it in. I unfortunately cannot get my dmg to mount and when I try to from Terminal, it shows it in the list and shows it at the correct capacity so I am hoping there is still hope but how can I get any of the files off of it?
Thanks in advance!

I would love to use an usb flash drive for my MacBook, if I'm not home… and I really think, this would be a useful feature for Time Machine, if it offers at least the option.
But I don't think it is possible now. I tried it, too and I think (don't know), Time Machine only accepts drives big enough to backup the whole HD.
What would be rather smart and stupid at the same time, because to use Time Machine just for 300 MB of my user folder and my work documents should be possible with 2 GB.
Maybe someone "knows" more about this, I haven't found anything useful so far…

Time capsule as a shared media drive and USB backup question

I sincerely apologise if this has been answered in a different form elsewhere but I am struggling to get the exact answer I need.
I am planning to use my Time Capsule 1TB as a shared media drive at home. I have a G5 running Leopard and an MBP running the same. I want to be able to have a shared iTunes and iPhoto library and, from what I understand, this is a reasonable way to do it.
My question relates to the back up of the Time Capsule. I have ordered a 1TB LaCie USB drive which I am planning to have permanently connected to the TC for backup purposes. Can I set-up the TC to use Time Machine to "mirror" itself to the USB drive? Is this something that either the MBP or the G5 will have to be set-up to do?
Any thoughts would be welcome. Thank you in advance.

Daniel Norman1 wrote:
My question relates to the back up of the Time Capsule. I have ordered a 1TB LaCie USB drive which I am planning to have permanently connected to the TC for backup purposes. Can I set-up the TC to use Time Machine to "mirror" itself to the USB drive? Is this something that either the MBP or the G5 will have to be set-up to do?
No. Time Machine cannot back-up any network drive, including your Time Capsule's internal HD.
There is an "archive" facility, but it's inconvenient, to say the least. See #Q6 in the Using TIME MACHINE with a TIME CAPSULE *User Tip,* also at the top of this forum.

Working Drives and Main Backup

Hey guys. I've started working with a new company.
We've got a small group of 5 editors and 1 animator.
No 4k stuff.
Thinking for main backup we could use:
QNAP TS-869-PRO 8-Bay NAS, SATA 6Gbps, USB 3.0
The boss likes g-tech stuff so some G-Technology-G-DRIVE-mobile-Thunderbolt for working drives... yeah thunderbolt because insistent on getting i-macs.
So basically projects are saved internally on the i-mac and at the end of the day backed up to the NAS.
Any suggestions? And what's the flaw in my plans?

Single Thunderbolt drives are fine as work drives if the media is standard HD codecs such as Pro Res or DNxHD. The Qnap network storage are fine archive devices. We normally recommend Thecus because their management software is good and the build quality for the storage unit is solid. However I have also dealt with QNAP and they are solid as well. Qnap is normally more expensive.
Eric
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Snow Leopard and external firewire drives

When is Apple going to acknowledge the problems with external drive access created by Snow Leopard?

Quite correct. I should not expect Apple to answer the question here. And who knows maybe they are actually working on a solution.
Since you made a kindly offer I will describe the problem in more detail.
Since upgrading to SL I have had constant problems with my firewire external drive. Unfortunately that was the drive with my Time Machine backups. The symptoms of the problems revolve around startup and recognition of the drive. The drive appears in the list but will not open, Time Machine attempted to initiate backup and just spun. I discovered that it was necessary to completely shut down my Imac, disconnect the firewire drive and power it down. I have tried leaving the drive connected and powered, sometimes the Imac sees the drive sometimes not. I have tried leaving the drive connected but powering it down, powering it up and starting the Imac sometimes it sees the drive sometimes not but more frequently than when I leave it connected. The most reliable way to reconnect to the drive is to shut down the Imac, disconnect and powerdown the drive, startup the mac, login, repower the drive and reconnect.
In the course of trying to find a solution I have tried both Disk Utility use and Tech Tool Pro. Both programs are unable to correct the problem, most frequently displaying the message "unable to unmount drive". However after the above mentioned repower sequence running either Disk Utility or TechTools Pro describes the drive as OK.
In the course of all of this I decided to wipe the drive and reformat. I was unable to remove the Time Machine files to another drive so I made the decision to abandon the backups since I made additional manual backups of the critical files and I have all my install disks.
I reformated the drive but I have not started Time Machine again. Time machine has not worked once successfully since I upgraded to Snow Leopard. And further it is clear that the same problems exist on the reformatted drive. At this point probably the best solution is to abandon SL until it leaves beta stage (if ever) and return to 10.5. Had I made that decision earlier I might (emphasize might) have been able to restore from Time Machine. Now the only option is a fully manual restore back to 10.5.
I would like to emphasize that I operate and have operated my Macs as absolutely "box stock" with no system tweeks or any third party tools. The majority of my software on this machine is Apple both Works and Life. I have MacLinkPlus Quicken, Stuffit, Bento, Data Desk, Photoshop elements, Firefox browser, Flip 4 Mac and DivX as the only third party software.

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