Firewire hub and iPod, external HD etc...

Hi All,
I've got a new 1.67ghz PB. I have 3 different firewire things connected. My iPod Dock, a Porsche Lacie 160gb external HD and an old ibook. I have a cheap 6 port firewire hub connected to the PB which inturn connects the other devices... My problem is this. My iPod will always charge but wont always mount on the desktop, same with the connected ibook. Is'nt the hub just sposed to be an extension of the port? Everything I plug into the hub should work the same as if it where connected directly to the pb?
Any help would be great

Hi Nicholas,
I use a Belkin 6 port firewire 400 hub, as yet haven't had any problem like this on my Powerbook. Maybe connect each one in turn, make sure it mounts and unmounts OK, they try 2 and then 3 maybe it ld point to a defective port or even cable? Just an idea
Regards
Jed

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