Firewire problems on Ibook graphite 466

Hi,
my Ibook 466 has problems with firewire port.
First, i've noticed after installing OSX 10.3 the firewire port was not working and not recognized in system info.
I got the idea of firmware upgrade: 4.1.7
Then it works. after a few system upgrades to 10.3.9 and to 9.2.2 for Classic, I was confident and tried to connect a firewire external drive, no way, the port was not recognized again, it sounds like dead !
But I didn't give up, I reinstalled OSX again, nothing !
I tried booting in open firmware and reset all, nothing !
I zapped the PRAM, the Ibook stayed blocked, no boot, maybe don't know if he goes to OS9 or OSX ??
I put my OSX CD, and choosed a new startup disk, so I boot on my internal OSX partition. Then miracle my firewire port was OK.
What is this ? So, I wanted to titillate my brain, I run Classic, and then I went to check my firewire port. Result: it disappeares. So the problem is caused by Classic, why ? that's the question.
I did this experiment twice, same result : as soon as I run Classic, I loose my firewire port !
thanx for your help

it's just a simple question for you, but difficult for me
<my Ibook 466 has problems with firewire port.
First, i've noticed after installing OSX 10.3 the firewire port was not working and not recognized in system info.
I got the idea of firmware upgrade: 4.1.7
Then it works. after a few system upgrades to 10.3.9 and to 9.2.2 for Classic, I was confident and tried to connect a firewire external drive, no way, the port was not recognized again, it sounds like dead !
But I didn't give up, I reinstalled OSX again, nothing !
I tried booting in open firmware and reset all, nothing !
I zapped the PRAM, the Ibook stayed blocked, no boot, maybe don't know if he goes to OS9 or OSX ??
I put my OSX CD, and choosed a new startup disk, so I boot on my internal OSX partition. Then miracle my firewire port was OK.
What is this ? So, I wanted to titillate my brain, I run Classic, and then I went to check my firewire port. Result: it disappeares. So the problem is caused by Classic, why ? that's the question.
I did this experiment twice, same result : as soon as I run Classic, I loose my firewire port !
thanx for your help >

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