Firewire to Firewire

Hello,
I am hoping to link two imacs G5's together using Firewire. (I would also like to be able to link two Power Mac G5's together using the same method in the future).
Anyway, I have been searching for quite some time and my head is well and truly confused. The spec I have is Firewire 400 ports on the back of my macs (I think it is a 6 point connection), so I need a Firewire 400 cable with the same connections on each end.
Anyway I found this lead here: http://www.macwarehouse.co.uk/catalogue/item/VIDFW004
Can anyone confirm if this lead will connect my two imac G5's together via the Firewire ports at the back of each machine.
I'm sure to some this is a VERY simple, straight forward question, I'm just puzzled and buying and returning things at my place of work takes ages so I want to get it right first time along with some other bits and bobs I am buying
Many thanks!
Rob
Imac G5 - nice n shiny! Mac OS X (10.4.2) 2gb ram

You need the 6 pin. There is some info here but there might be other useful Articles. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151723
Some weeks ago, before my iMac arrived, I played with my SP G5 transferring files to and from my QS G4 867 over Firewire 400, instead of Ethernet. Worked well.

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Most Folks just suggest data recovery which can cost as much as $3000 or more which I really don't have .
I figured I open and examine the internalsof drive . I did so. The circuitry smells
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While I have Three DC voltmeters, I could not find the one that would accurately measure the voltage on the external power suppy to see if the output voltage on the 4 pins is accurate . I am still looking for the one meter that can do this.
I figured if I can find the exact drive in like new condition and swap the disks, if the disks are not damaged and if the culprit is actually burnt circuitry, then the drives should come up as they were as though nothing had happened.
I talked to a friend that suggested getting other cases and swapping disks but I guess that is not possible because the two disks are raided? ( raid 0 ) . I am also not even sure if the drives are raided the way they were put into use ( only through firewire 400) as the documentation suggests that only firewire 800 denotes use of built in raid0 but I am not sure. So again assumption is made that the drives are raided .
I contacted dealership of the drive which again suggest that Unfortunately it is not possible to obtain another drive like this one because it has been obsolete and out of manufacture for a long time. It is also a risky idea because if the problem is not with the drive enclosure hardware, there is a genuine risk of making the recovery process more difficult, or impossible.
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I tried the two good disks in the main chasis with new cables and power supply , and I could not get them to come on or show.
I put the good disks back in the second chasis with new cable and power suppy and it again shows ( prompts telling you that it sees a readable MAc OS disk and asks if you want to Initialize it ).
I put the first set together again with new cable and power supply and the light does not come on anymore . being hearing impaired , i put my head on the drive and hear this clicking sound every one or two seconds. The fan operates . The drive does not show when rebooting and it does not show on the disk utility. The drive does not smoke but smell of burned mica ( circuitry ) is still in my throat after a couple of hours.
From what I have learned the possibility exists that each drive is calibrated and the calibration is added to the control board , So like chances are that even if the two original drives are good and connected properly and everything else is good, they might and probably just wont work with a control board of another even exact drive. There are three tables / charts marked on each drive and specific locations marked on each chart which differ between drives . These I think are from calibrating the drives.
So I guess its data recovery...
Lacie Data Recovery wants $600 ( $300 x 2 drives ) if they recover data without need for a clean room , $3000 ( $1500 x 2 drives ) if there is need for clean room. If they don't recover , you dont pay , if they recover and you do not want to pay, then they just send you the damaged disk ( or perhaps keep it , or smash it then return it to you) .
There are many other data recovery services so I guess a few days to sift through them but I guess the maker reference should be the best way ( I think its actually a sub-company that lacie forwards data recovery to.
Too many factors are involved. One that will such be a secure thing to do or 6 months later you find out that someone opened 10 accounts under your name , or emptied your bank account ( thats actually not a problem because there is almost never any money in my bank account) . So security is a concern. I have encountered individuals that make it their business stealing peoples stuff from their disks. Once I even had one Tech guy which was refered to solve a problem I had , copying disks contents right in front of me for absolutely no reason. So I ask him what are you doing, and he says , I am copying everything just to make sure they are safe ( : ) )
Then there is the dalai lama , everything happens for a reason scenario. In which case I guess I have to consider the whole thing as Good Omen. and just forget about it and go on with my life ( maybe I go work in Mc Donalds : ) )
The bottom line is I can't believe that I am such an idiot not to have a proper backup system in place .
Thank you for the links, I will check them out.

Salve ,vorrei chedervi come riversare le mie cassettine, Dv da videocamera a macbook pro , con cavo firewire e firewire 800. Mi interesserebbe sapere se con I movie e' possibile, ppure con che app. Grazie

Salve, VORREI chedervi vieni riversare le mie cassettine, Dv da videocamera un MacBook Pro, con Cavo firewire e firewire 800. Mi interesserebbe Sapere se con I film e 'Possibile, ppure con Che app. Grazie

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Hi to all,
what can possibly happen if i connect 2 macs trough fire wire while they are both operatig ?
nothing ?
see each other ?
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HI mate,
will try and keep it as layman as possible, not sure of your mac expertise level.
whilst our fellow mac peeps are correct on the target mode scenario, you CAN also link both machines whilst they are BOTH on, by enabling firewire in your network preferences on both computers and then creating a user account to log on to, on each machine, then use the connect to server method to log into the other computer.
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Hello all,
I recently bought a Mac Book Pro with Intel Core i7 and 2,66 GHz with a 4 GB RAM. The system is good, until I connected my external hard drive from Mac Way that connects to the laptop through a Firewire 800. The HD mounts well with a USB but not with a Firewire 800. I then went to the System Profiler and found this message in Hardware/Firewire - No FireWire ports were found.
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