Fireworks 8 and Font Book (OS X)

I've just noticed that when I disable fonts in OS X's Font
Book, the font names still show up in Fireworks (and Flash), even
if I restart the program, and even if I log out or restart the
machine. Is Fireworks 8 incompatible with the way Font Book
disables fonts? Has anyone else noticed this problem?
Thanks.

I've had a problem with Font Book recognizing fonts that
Fireworks won't. Perhaps it's a related issue. I have yet to
discover a solution.

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Photoshop and Font Book

Just upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and Photoshop (CS3) no longer recognises FontBook's management...
I'm just seeing all the fonts in the font library(s) whether I have them disabled in FontBook or not.
Is this a FontBook or Photoshop issue?
Any suggestions?

Just upgraded from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion and Photoshop (CS3) no longer recognises FontBook's management...
I'm just seeing all the fonts in the font library(s) whether I have them disabled in FontBook or not.
Is this a FontBook or Photoshop issue?
Any suggestions?

Help - Font Book and font Library doesn't work

I've just updated to a new iMac on Yosemite, and Font Book doesn't work. Neither does putting fonts into the "Library"
There is a range of fonts that ARE working that are already in either place, but some (that worked up until two days ago in my old Mac running OS 10.6.8) just won't work.
If I select the fonts in Font Book, Font Book doesn't load them. If I put them in the Library, they don't appear for use in any application.
As a designer, updating fonts is essential, and if this can't be fixed I'm in serious trouble! So any advice welcome!

We see posts like this here all the time. A person upgrades to a new OS, and Font Book suddenly stops working. Usually, the problem is that Font Book's database has been trashed by the upgrade with the very common symptoms you're seeing. You suddenly can't add fonts, and fonts Font Book says are open don't appear in some, or any apps.
Restart your Mac and immediately hold down the Shift key when you hear the startup chime to boot into Safe Mode. Keep holding the Shift key until you see a progress bar towards the bottom of the screen. You can let go of the Shift key at that point. Yosemite is a bit different. Whether it's a Safe Mode boot or a normal one, you get the same progress bar. It just takes longer to get to the desktop in Safe Mode. So hold the Shift key until you get to the desktop.
OS X asks you to log in (you will get this screen on a Safe Mode boot even if your Mac is set to automatically log in). Let the Mac finish booting to the desktop and then restart normally. This will clear Font Book's database and the cache files of the user account you logged into in Safe Mode.
If that alone doesn't do it (it should), then clear out all of the font cache data.
Close all running applications. From an administrator account, open the Terminal app and enter the following command. You can also copy/paste it from here into the Terminal window:
sudo atsutil databases -remove
Terminal will then ask for your admin password. As you type, it will not show anything, so be sure to enter it correctly.
This removes all font cache files. Both for the system and the current logged in user account. After running the command, close Terminal and immediately restart your Mac.

Font Book and ScalaSans

I am operating on OS X (10.3.9) using Quark primarily and Font Book.
I have had sporadic problems with my scala sans font family. Font book recognizes roman scala sans and scala sans italic, but not caps or bold. At first the problem would be solved by deleting the font and reloading it. After a few months, bold and caps stopped working completely. I've tried troubleshooting by deleting preferences, clearing cache, uploading original fonts, etc. I don't think the font is corrupt because its working on other machines operating on the same platform.
A friend suggested I try Linotype. When I switched over, problem solved. All fonts recognized. That is until I restarted my machine. Linotype stalled and I eventually had to force quit. Once I did, I got an error message saying that scala sans was unable to be located.
Just to see, I restarted, opened Font Book and then opened Linotype. Now I can use my fonts but both Linotype and Font Book have to be active. What does this mean?
Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi edmac,
In short, don't have more than one font manager on your system at a time. Most likely, Font Book is still interfering with the operation of your fonts. I would suggest putting the Font Book application on another disk for safe keeping and then deleting it from the Applications folder. That way, only Linotype's font manager is handling your fonts. Otherwise, when you double click a font to activate it, for instance, both Linotype and Font Book activate the font. Essentially, they get in each other's way.

Font Book reporting 0 fonts and crashing

Hi,
I see that Font Book has been mentioned as having some problems before, but no definitive answers were given.
My MacBook crashed hard last night (for the first time), and when I restarted, some of my fonts weren't appearing, notably Chinese fonts and (I think) Helvetica.
Going into Font Book (which was the first application that showed up typing "font" in Spotlight) showed no fonts of any kind. When I tried to add all the fonts already in /System/Library/Fonts and a few other locations, it reported that some fonts had caused "System Validation" (completely unexplained) problems and should not be installed - these are "Helvetica LT MM" and "Times LT MM". It also popped up alert boxes for a series of fonts (Geneva.dfont, Keyboard.dfont, etc.) that caused conflicts with system fonts and should be removed or something.
After that, Chinese fonts work on the system, but Font Book still reports that I have no fonts at all.
When I reboot, my fonts are gone again. This is VERY tedious.
Also, if I log into another user account on the system (mine is an administrator account and the other account is not, I don't know if this bears any significance), fonts act normally without any configuration needed, and Font Book seems to work fine as well - i.e. fonts are listed!
I tried deleting ~/Library/Application Support/Font Book/fb.db and ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.FontBook.plist as well as overwriting both with the other user's versions, along with multiple reboots.
At this point I'd really appreciate any suggestions, because so far I was enjoying Leopard and this is spoiling it, on Christmas eve too :P

Font Book's database may have gotten trashed. It could also be the font collection files. Try this:
1) Restart your Mac and immediately hold down the Shift key when you hear the startup chime to boot into Safe Mode. Keep holding the Shift key until you see a progress bar towards the bottom of the screen. You can let go of the Shift key at that point.
OS X asks you to log in (you will get this screen on a Safe Mode boot even if your Mac is set to automatically log in). Let the Mac finish booting to the desktop and then restart normally. This will clear Font Book's database and the cache files of the user account you logged into in Safe Mode.
If this doesn't do it, then proceed to the next possibility:
2) From the desktop, hold down the Option key and at the menu bar, choose Go > Library to open the Library folder within your user account. Go to the FontCollections folder and move all sets to the desktop. Try launching Font Book again.

Font Book: Managing Fonts, Duplicates, Warnings etc... Need Help!

How this all started...
I have a lot of fonts. I use them for design purposes, and recently added a bunch of new ones.
As a result, I had a problem with an Adobe program and the font displayed in the workspace.
I figured out which one caused it and deleted it. (I've never used it before, and it wasn't a common font, so I didn't really care).
Problem with that solved.
So I figured that I ought to go through Font Book and check everything else and started Validation (under User).
I had several Errors, Duplicates and Warnings.
I (maybe naively) allowed Font Book to "Resolve Duplicates".
QUESTION 1 (a) (b): Could letting Font Book resolve duplicates create any problems? and how does it decide what to trash?
I also let Font Book move all the Error fonts to my empty Trash Folder.
- I then moved all those to an empty folder on my desktop.
I then moved all the Warning Fonts to another empty folder on my desktop.
So now, in User fonts, there are currently no problem messages.
This is where it gets a little trickier...
In "All Fonts" or "Computer" there are no caution symbols adjacent to any fonts, but if I run Validation, I get a lot of duplicate fonts.
For example... Arial exists in:
Library/fonts
User/Library/fonts
Library/Fonts/Microsoft
QUESTION 2: Do I need to address these? and if so, will that have an effect on any programs that use those fonts?
* I did some research on this, and found an article at Mac World, discussing this, but I don't feel any better/wiser after reading it or the comments...
"Problem" since resolving duplicates and/or moving warning and error fonts (from User):
Since I resolved duplicates, and moved the error and warning fonts, I've noticed some "minor" changes in appearance with websites.
Such as in Hotmail, and a website that I'm a member; the font displayed is now just slightly different.
Albeit, the difference is very subtle, (but as a designer, I noticed this right away) and my concern is how this may affect any design work I do, if somehow the change I'm seeing is more of an error.
* I have to make an assumption that its a font used in scripts (like Arial, Helvetica, etc, etc) that use my fonts for display.
QUESTION 3: So the big question is, how the heck do I address that now???
About the Warning Fonts:
For the most part, the fonts that came up as "minor warnings", showed the message 'kern' table structure and contents.
- I know that "kern" is suppose to be the spacing between characters.
QUESTION 4: So, why does Font Book care and warn about the "table structure and contents" of font spacing between characters, for any font???
QUESTION 4b: If that's NOT what that means, then I'd appreciate a plain English definition (perferably a source from Apple directly).
Caches:
I'm seeing changes on the fly with fonts (and the display on websites), if I try and move fonts that had warnings like Arial styles or Helvetica styles back to my User Directory, so I'm guessing that Font Caching isn't affected by this.
If anyone is going to suggest that I deal with the font cache (since I've read several questions on this topic already), I'd appreciate some explanation about WHY I would need to address font caches and HOW they might be affected in respect to your suggestion and the problems I'm having.
Additional Information:
I use a MacBook, Mac OS X 10.6
~ If there's some other information that you may need from me, then please ask away... I need to figure this out, and Font Book is driving me crazy!!!

Yes hindsight is 20/20. I realize now that I should not have allowed FB to do what it asked. (But that's a moot point now).
Having a large number of fonts is something I've always had for design purposes. I never had issues with fonts on a PC, and didn't expect these sorts of problems on a Mac. And how is someone suppose to know NOT to trust a pre-installed program that's suppose to MANAGE your fonts???
I don't touch the system fonts. I am well aware that they can't be deleted, nor do I add any fonts to that directory.
I agree... I need to narrow down the issue. That was the whole point of posting this!
I do keep backups of my system and files. I have considered just replacing the font folders with what I had before, but it just brings me back to where I had all the warnings, errors and duplicates... And I'm not entirely sure if and how that could affect the font caches, and if I would need to then address those. I've been researching this quite a bit, but so far, all I've found is complaints or questions from people with similar problems. For whatever reason, very few people seem to want to offer help with this kind of problem (but I thank you for at least trying)...
With Dreamweaver, its not quite that simple. If it was, then I wouldn't need the help. Even if we disregard the issue I have with Dreamweaver, the problem also exists on some websites, webmail, etc. Websites (and Dreamweaver) use standard font families and display their fonts from YOUR installed fonts. The font problems I'm have online are not missing fonts, they are just not the same font in size or appearance that they were before (and no, my webmail, and these websites didn't change. I had someone give me some screenshots to confirm). But I can't figure out exactly where the problem is, because it appears that I DO have the standard fonts. It could be that FB removed a version that was better than what was left behind, or it could be something else.... I have no idea anymore. I'm just getting more frustrated.

Lion Font Book problem with Adobe FontFolio 11

I have a fresh install of Lion. My problem is with FontFolio 11. It installs well, finds duplicates etc. The problem happens only after i deactivate all of the fontfolio fonts. After they have all be deactivated, if I click on any other font collection, fontd jumps up to 99% CPU usage and Font Book not responding. After 5 minutes of this Font Book's Real Mem usage slowly starts to increase, sometimes up to 3 gigs. Eventually, I am able to click through collection with no delay, however, after a system restart or just a Font Book restart, the process starts over and i have to wait.
I have tried:
Clearing every font cache file I can think of.
Using Font Finagler to clear font caches.
Restarting in safe mode.
Creating a new user.
Nothing has made this problem go away.
So, what exactly is happening? Why is Font Book fast and responsive with my 427 fontfolio fonts active, but when i deactivate them it slows to a crawl and goes through the same CPU/memory cycle every time? I have research and experimented for a solid week. I can't waste any more time on this. I'm this close to giving LION and Font Book the big thumbs down and buying something that actually works.
I never had a problem with snow leopard using Font Book and the same version font folio.

Same here. My thread: https://discussions.apple.com/message/15995212#15995212
I've had no replies. Have you looked at Activity Monitor while this is happening? check it out. I think i'm just going to go back to Leopard, don't know what else to do. Do you have an SSD in there?

System fonts not showing in Font Book

I am using Font Agent Pro as a font manager and am wondering if there's a conflict with it and Apple's Font Book. I cannot get the system fonts to show up in Font Book and, hence, those (System) fonts don't show in Apple apps, e.g., Safari, Grapher, Text Edit, etc., etc.
The only way I can get the system fonts to show in apple apps it to drag the System>Library>Fonts folder to the "Collection" column onto the "Computer" collection. This is fine, but it copies the System fonts to the ComputerName>Library>Fonts folder.
I've tried for hours to get the System fonts to show in Font Book and do it without the System fonts being copied to the Library or User folder, i.e., I want the System fonts to stay in the System fonts folder only.
If I boot into another partition and bring up Font Book everything works as I would expect, and Font Agent Pro is not installed on that partition...
Any Ideas?
TIA,
Geoff
Quicksilver 933, PB 15" 1.67 Superdrive Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi PS1,
I am using Font Agent Pro as a font manager and am wondering if there's a conflict with it and Apple's Font Book.
Yes, in a sense. If you always open and close your fonts through FAP's interface, then it's no problem leaving Font Book on your Mac. It will simply sit there and take up a small amount of disk space.
That said, it's still a nuisance having more than one font manager on your computer at a time. Say you disable all of the fonts in Font Book that you can. Assuming the fonts are still in the /Library/Fonts/ folder, you then turn them on and off with FAP. The problem then is which orders are the applications going to believe? Are the fonts active, according to FAP? Or inactive, according to Font Book?
Also, if you double click on any font to quick activate it, both FAP and Font Book will activate the font. So you will find yourself confused fairly often when you deactivate the font in FAP, but they still keep showing up in your applications as active. That would be because Font Book is still holding it open.
So if FAP is going to be your main font manager, then copy Font Book off to another disk for safe keeping (so you don't have to use Pacifist or an OS install to get it back on your system if you need, or want to), and then remove it from your hard drive.
Definitely don't remove the /System/Library/Fonts/ folder! If you remove Lucida Grande from its default location in any way, you will lose control of your desktop. The only way I can think that Taavi managed to accomplish this was moving files around booted to an external drive, or from another Mac via FireWire Target Mode. It's impossible to do on the same drive your booted to. You'll lose control of the desktop every time if you remove Lucida Grande. Although Taavi may have made his/her copy to the /Library/Fonts/ folder. That at least would still leave an active copy of Lucida Grande somewhere, but I highly recommend against that sort of handling of the system fonts.

Font Book acting very very weird, had to abandon it...

Hi all.
This happened before but this time it seems permanent...
I use Chinese True Type Fonts (.TT) as part of my daily work, but I only load them when I need to use them in Photoshop.
Today as usual I enable the whole lot of them in Font Book as any other day, but when I launch Photoshop, after scrolling down to the last English Font, the Chinese Fonts that should appear after that were not there...
I tried Repairing Permissions, quit and launch both PS and Font Book, restart... to no avail.
And I understand the when Font Book loads the fonts, it actually place a duplicate copy from its origin to the User's Fonts folder or somewhere in the main System's Font folder, right??
Anyway, I went into those font folders and sure, all the Chinese Fonts are all there, they just don't show up in Photoshop?? So in order not to "overload" my fonts folders, I deleted all of the Chinese Fonts, and some other extra English fonts that I have activated and been staying inside those font folders...
So now I use (back) Suitcase X1, which for some reasons I don't quite like, for one you have to keep it launch from startup, but using Suitcase to activate all my Chinese Fonts, they are back in Photoshop, where they should be... and I am beginning to appreciate Suitcase, for it just activate the fonts from wherever they are, and not copying another duplicate and place them in the Fonts folders.
But I would still like to find out what might have cause my Font Book to "malfunction"??
Thanks and cheers

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Font Book

Recently installed fonts are not appearing in Font Book but they are listed and useable in all applications. How can I get them in Font Book so that they can be disabled? I should mention, I am not having problems with these fonts and Font Book on my PowerBook only on my iMac.

Here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25710
or
here:
http://www.wpdfd.com/editorial/osxfonts.htm
Vince

Font Book Wont add fonts

I run Leopard (10.5.1) and font book will not add ant fonts. Does anyone have any idea why this is so?
Thanks is advance

Read this link and try their workaround...it worked for my customer. For us the problem was not Font Book but in how the fonts to be added were transferred to the computer.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6202877&#6202877

How to Permanently Enable Fonts in Font Book?

Until recently, all the fonts I have installed have been permanently enabled then a few days ago, I opened Pages and was informed that some of the fonts I regularly use in most of my documents, Optima Bold, Optima Italic, Optma Bold Italic, were not active - Optima Regular was.
I went into Font Book and found that there were many fonts which were no longer enabled. I enabled them all and carried on with my work.
But now, I have discovered that every time I reboot, these fonts are disabled again. Surely there must be a way to permanently enable fonts.
Can anybody help, please?

Thank you for the link, it was much appreciated. However, I looked through it but as far as I could see it does not address the issue I am having. I have already tried deleting the font cache and Font Book's preferences.
Also, since my first post, I have run a number of font utilities and several problematic fonts have been removed.
I tried resetting Font Book as per the advice on the site and then deleted the font cache once more - as it advises - but there is no change.
I find it curious that all the Optima fonts are in the same suitcase yet only one of them remains enabled.
Something must have happened on my system in the last week or so to cause this but I can't figure out what.

Remote fonts loaded in font book.

Somehow somebody loaded fonts over the network on my workstation.
When launching font book I get a spinning pinwheel and messages saying connection could not be found... for each font it is trying to activate.
The machine that has the font on it is off/sleeping.
How do I identify which fonts reside on that remote machine and delete them WITHOUT jacking up all local fonts.

I don't know. I stripped everything out and reloaded all fonts-sets-library's.
NOW the machine that Fontbook is attempting to access is dead and font book is not responging.
Where are the font book libraries-preferences-plists so I can dispose of them and start fresh?

Font Book on/off is confused (thinking fonts are off when they are on)

So my Font Book activates and deactivates font properly and other apps react accordingly.
Problem is the On/Off label next to each font inside Font Book. Font Book is completely ignoring the correct statues of each font. So it is stuck on a specific label. If a font is deactivated, and I try to activate, it works fine, BUT the label is stuck displaying 'OFF' instead of turning into 'ON'.
This seemed like a small issue, until i needed to deactivate a font that says 'OFF'! now I am stuck, since right clicking on it says 'Activate family' while it should say 'Deactive family'! Font book thinks its deactivated while in reality its activated!
i can activate but not deactivate since the labels are wrong and font book is confused!
Here are the things that i already tried: restart, check for damaged fonts, repair permissions, run iTools, run disk utility, deleting font book preferences.
Only thing that I have not tried is deleting all fonts, rebooting font book and doing everything again. (i have around 3100 fonts)
how do i resolve this? anyone else encountering this problem?

so after much research, trial and errors and several backups later:
Trashed the fb.db file in my ~Users > Gaith > Library > Application Support > Font Book folder.

Font Book Gone Rouge

Hey Guys,
So I'm running on 10.6.8 and Font Book has disappeared on me.
Searching applications Font book is there but with the 'No go ' symbol on it instead of the logo I don't know when this happened when I click it it says that its 'Damaged or Incomplete'. I have checked and the package contents theres nothing in there and even in the system profiler has it but it doesn't show a version number next to it like all the other apps.
If anyone knows how to fix it or which system install disc Font Book is on and how to get to it (because I've looked and no joy) that would be grand.

HI,
Try removing this file.
com.apple.FontBook.plist
/Users/YourName/Library/Preferences.
Drag that file to the Trash, empty the Trash and restart your Mac.
Carolyn

Fireworks 8 and Font Book (OS X)

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