Firmed planned order in MS04 and MD04
Dear EXPERT
PLZ Could any one help me to found the reson of this issue:
the results in LTP simulation MS04 is not equal to MRP run MD04 .
when we search for the reasons which cause that variance we found it as follow
*In MD04 the Firmed planned order did not explode the BOM again which is standard SAP functionality, but in MS04 the system explode the BOM although may be some amendments occur in the BOM.:
Best Regards,
Hi,
according of my previous question .... I found in SAP Help (performance assistant) the following
Dependencies
When the system copies firmed planned orders, it only copies the headers of the planned orders. That is, BOM items that were changed manually in the planned order are lost during the copying process.
that means the LTP ONLY READING BOM IN MASTER DATA AND IGNORE BOM items that were changed in firmed planned order so its SAP function.
that lead me to update my question:
if any existing tools or Badi make LTP read items were changed in planned order ????
with regard
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Firmed planned order and purchase requisition
Hi gurus,
could anyone explain firmed planned order and firmed purchase requisition, please based on the following detail questions.
1.when planned order was converted into PR, we call it firmed PR, right?
2.when manually change a PR and save it, we call it firmed PR, right?
3.are these the only 2 ways to firm PR? if not, what else?
4. how to firm planned order?
5. in MRP, the on-order stock is defined as "composed of fixed and firm receipt elements (PO, firm planned orders, firm purchase requisitions), while in MD04, we always see all the PR created by MRP running, are these newly created PR firmed automatically?
Thanks,
cookieHI,
Check the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45B/helpdata/en/f4/7d2ca444af11d182b40000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
Regards
KK -
Planning time Fence and Firmed Planned Orders
Hi,
Withing our 30 days planning time Fence, MD04 is showing * mark against the planned order, but when we drill inside the planned order, Firming indicator is missing.
Using M1/ P1 MRP type.
1) Is this a correct oservation?
2) How does it affect the availability check, if we are considering Firmed Planned order to be included in the Av Chk. Will this planned order be considered with the Availability check?
Thnx!
Abhi.Dear,
Let us understand with an example
MRP type = P1
Time fence = 30 days
Let say you have created 3 requirements
01.12.2007 - 100 TO
01.01.2008 - 100 TO
01.02.2008 - 100 TO
Let me know what are you expecting the syatme to do if you run MRP today? -
Firm Planned Order and receipt.
Dear Master,
Here i am working on LTP or PP-PI industry but i am enable to understand meaning of Firmed Planned order and
Frim Receipt pl tel me some differeinated point with sutiable example? also tel what is purpose of both.I want exact concept
of frimed planned order and firm receipt. Pl give me your feedback early.
Regards
RaviDear ,
Firmed Planned Order : It is used when you don't want certain planned orders to change during subsequent MRP runs.
Say today you have created certain palnned orders. In a normal scenario, when you do the MRP run again, the planned order may get changed if the requirements have changed. However as a normal business practice, it is not desired to change the production plans everytime there is a change in the requirement...especially in the immediate future (maybe a week or so).
We set this as the planning time fence depending on the MRP type settimg in the material master, you may have firm orders.
Apart from MPS items, MRP will also generate firm planned orders for materials with MRP type P1 to P4. In addition to the above, any planned order that is manually changed is also firmed.
Look in to Check MRP Type in SPRO-MRP-Firming Indicator and press F1.
Firmed Reciept : Purchase Order , STOs, Production Order which are reciept element and adding stock to existing stock -unrestricted .
Hope this gives you some idea
Regards
JH -
After firming planned order, new planned order is generating in MRP run
Hi Experts,
I am using SAP AFS. Planning strategy is 21- MTO with Project settlement. MRP type is PD. Lte size is EX. Procurement type is X.
We are using the production versions. Individual / collective reqmts is 1. Planning time fence is not maintained.
In sap AFS T.Code for MRP run is /n/afs/md02. After receiving the Sales order, MD04 screen gets updated accordingly and I am running the MRP.Planned orders are generated accordingly. I am firming the planned order manually through MD04. The satr mark is also appearing.
My problem starts now. If I am running the MRP again for the same requirements another planned order of the same qty. is getting generated. That means after the second MRP run, I am having two planned orders (one firmed plnd order) and second is the new planned order. My requirement is that MRP should not generate any new Plnd. order / PR's if there is no new Sales order.
The parameters for MRP run are "1" for "Create PR's", '1" for "Plng Mode" and '"1" for "scheduling ".
I have tried in all the possible ways, but of no use. Still new plnd order is generated after firming the 1st plnd. order in MRP run.Thanks all for your feedback..
@ Vishal
1. Yes, Both Old firmed planned order and newly generated planned order have the same grid value
2. For both the planned orders :
Special Stock is E u2013 Orders on hand,
Consumption is V,
Sales order is the same (As we are using MTO , Strategy 21) and same WBS element.
3. First planned order is not in the assigned tab of MD04. This means that has been allocated to some object. u2013 I didu2019nt got this point. Can u please elaborate?
@ Nikhil
1. Quantity of sales order is not reducing after firming the sales order
2. Account assignment category for both the planned orders is u201CZu201D - Indiv.cust./project
I have made some more observations and found the following differences between the two planned orders
From MD04 , keep the cursor on corresponding planned order
& click on upward arrow ( available on bottom side of the report).
It will show what will be the originating requirements i e. for which requirements this planned order generated.
For Firmed planned order it is taking me to screen u201CPegged Requirements
u201D*And the following data is present:
Planned dates: 04.07.2010
MRP element No. 3100001185 (Sales Order No.)
MRP element item 100
Scheduling No. is 1
MRP element indicator - VC u2013 Order
MRP element data- 3100001185/000100/0001
Plng segment u2013 3100001185000100000
P.O / Order Type u2013 ZX
Rec/reqd Quantity 10
MRP element u2013 Order
For new planned order generated, I am going to Screen *u201CProcurement without Requirementsu201D
*The following data is present
Planned date 03.07.2010
MRP element No. 0000123522 (Planned order No. of the newly generated after MRP Run)
MRP element Ind. u2013 PA
MRP element data 0000123522/SO
MRP element item 1
Scheduling No. 1
MRP segment 20
Plng segment u2013 3100001185000100000
Rec/reqd Quantity 10
P.O/Order type- KD
MRP element u2013 Plnd Order -
Scheduling firmed planned order
Hi all,
I have follwoing situation:
In the MF50-planning table firmed (as customized in REM-profile with parameter "Allways Firm")
planned orders are created manually also in the past/backlogs.
The MRP/program RMMRP000 is updating the production dates of these FIRMED orders to the actual date/today. Because of this the planned order is shown on the actual date in the MF50 instead of the original planned production date in the past..
Usually the MRP doesn't consider firmed orders regarding their quantities and basic-/production-dates. In our case the MRP is changing production dates what is not expected.
Do you have ideas about this ?!
Thanks,
markusHi,
MRP-type is customized with firming-type '2-Automatic firming and order proposals rescheduled out'.
Firming indicator has not been changed after creating the planned order in the MF50/Planning table; this has been already checked in MD04/MD13.
Further ideas ??
Regards,
markus
Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 8:55 AM
Edited by: Markus Krauss on Aug 5, 2010 9:37 AM -
Regarding deletion of firmed planned order
Hi PP Gurus,
I want to delete the firmed planned order of header & component materials. Scenerio is after the mrp runs the planned orders are created and automatically gets firmed. Now sitation is that system contains the firmed planned orders for the past period, with the firmed requirments for the dependent requirment( Components). Now system has a plenty of unnecesary of requirments that in actual is not present. Problem is planned order for the header materail & components are firmed. So that it cannot be changed during the planning run.
Client wants to see in MD04 only those requirements which are actually present. Can u tell me how can i delete the firmed order. If i manually delete the firmed order of header material in next MRP run requirment not showed for the header but still the requiment for components is showing, That is the main problem .
Thanks in advance
ACPHi,
It will use only if you use MRP group in material master MRP1 view.
Goto OPPR by entering strategy group ex. 0010
In that Check Consumption mode & Define roll forward period.
Input the no of days in roll forward period to delete the old firmed planned order created before.
So all the firmed planned order will get delete in the next MRP run.
Regards,
Dharma -
Make to Order- Avoid creating Firmed Planned Orders
Hi Gurus,
I am using strategy 50 for one of my materials and when i create sales order agains that material a firmed planned order is created automatically. As this is firmed planned order in case i stock in material for that sales order and fullfill its requirement and run MD50 MRP against sales order. The planned order still exists as it is firmed where as i need it to be deleted after running MD50, because required quantity has been fullfilled using transfer posting from another stock. Please suggest how can i achieve it. Is there any configuration available to create unfirmed planned orders instead of firmed planned orders against sales orders? as unfirmed planned orders get deleted after executing MD50 in such a scenario.
Best Regards,
ShahDear,
What is your MRP type for these material? Use PD and check
Check the planning time fence field for those materials. If the requirements are within the planning time fence, then it will create firmed planned orders.
Go to OPP1Master Data- > Check MRP Types--- here, on "Control parameters" tab you can find the desired field called "Firming type". Make it bank then system will not create the Firmed planned order.
Also refer this link,
Re: firmed planned orders
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
What are the ways to Copy Firm Planned Order from one ASCP Plan to another?
We run two EDD Plans with very similar options, but with different plan horizons.
To have the suggestions synchronized, we need to copy the "Firm Planned Orders" from one plan to another.
We tried inserting the records in MSC_ST_SUPPLIES with Order type 5 and firm planned type 1 with appropriate plan id, but Planning ODS Load is not considering those inserted records.
We don't want to insert directly into MSC_SUPPLIES.
Any inputs is appreciated.
Thanks
SundarYou can also call a custom DTSX package in SSIS via the datamanager.
there are at least 5 ways of transfering data in BPC between apps.
1. Through the front end (excel etc) via evdre/evsnds
2. Through Script logic using *Dest App
3. Using BPC's standard export dtsx package via DM
4. Using SSIS using BPC's custom SSIS tasks
5. Through Script logic using stored procs.
i am sure people will come up with more.
remember if you use ssis and move data into any table but the wb, you need to process the cube afterwards. -
Change firmed planned order to Unfirm Planned order
Hi ,
if we change firmed planned order to unfirm planned order ,is there any effect on WIP and routing changes?
please respond with an answer.
Regards
Rekha
Edited by: REKHA MAHAJAN on Mar 31, 2008 1:34 PMHi Rekha ,
planned order Unfirmed -
will allow automatic changes with respect to requirement
planned order firmed -
Any manual change in the planned order is called firmed
and will not allow any automatic changes with respect to requirement
Planned order is just the requirement only there will no change in the WIP .
for example : you have some requirement say PIR is 50 on 31st march you perform MRP
by selecting the MRP type so that you will get firmed planned order for 50
on 1st you have another requirement ( PIR ) for 100 and if you perform MRP again system will create another planned order if this is also firmed . you need to convert manually into production order.
once planned order is converted into production order and there is no link with either routing or
workin process with planned order and is meant for only open production orders . You can convert all the planned orders collectively also
if any doubt come back
regards,
Vimalbalaji.J -
Automatic Firmed Planned Order / Mass Change Planned Order
Hi PP Gurus,
My requirement is I want to make all planned order created from planning run will be automatically firmed. I tried several option :
1. MRP type : P1, automatic create firmed planned order within planning time fence but for new requirement, planned order will be created after planning time fence date. Example planning time fence date lies on 20/10/2011
PIR
09/2011 3 pc
10/2011 4 pc
end of planning time fence date
11/2011 5 pc
run MRP
Planned order firmed for month 9 and 10. for 11 is not firmed. But the problem is if PIR on month 10 is change from 4 to 6. the other 2 planned order will be created at end of planning time fence date.
Is it possible for planned order created at appropriate date as requirement date ???
2. Mass Change of Planned Order
I browse the help SAP there is function module : MD_SET_ACTION_PLAF for mass changes of planned orders.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/9e/e84226c1c311d3b54a0004ac160649/content.htm
I execute it with SE37 but i don't know what should i do with this function module after the next screen.
In my mind, there will be selection screen for choosing which planned order will be perform firmed action.
Any other idea to solve my requirement is welcome.
Regards,
Arman LieDear Arman,
Use T.Code MD19 for firming the planned orders,also check MDBA for firming the planned order.
For your first question let me check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S -
What parameters determine Planned order production start and end dates?
Greetings
We are using the graphical planning table @ MF50 to firm Planned Orders (Basically checking off "Firm Order" field within the Planned Order). We are on ECC 6.0
Whenever I backflush, the production start and end dates get overwritten (The Basic dates do not change).
I would like to prevent this. Can someone advise me on what parameter controls how the production start and end dates getting changed?
Thank you
HanarinHi,
Calculating production dates ( Lead time scheduling) are explained in detail in the SAP help URL as below:
If "Automatci Scheduling indicator" is set in the customizing for scheduling parameters then after every change relevant to scheduling, the production order is also automatically rescheduled before saving.
You need to check these settings.
regards
Datta -
Can't Release firm planned order from ASCP.
I can't release firm planned order from ASCP the following massage appear " FRM-40200 , Field is protected against update ".
appreciate your help on that.
regards.
Ahmad.Please post the details of the application release, database version and OS.
I can't release firm planned order from ASCP the following massage appear " FRM-40200 , Field is protected against update ".
appreciate your help on that.Please mention the navigation path along with the form name and version.
Thanks,
Hussein -
Planned Order for stock and planned order for customer requirement
Hello everybody
I want to make a different, in MD04, between the planned order for stock and the planned order created for a customer requirement
Thank for your helpHi,
True planned order are generated for both the cases but the planned order generated for sales order will have sales order number in the below column and for stock will show independent requirement. Mainly no sales order reference will be there for make to stock scenario.
Hope it will help.
Regards,
Alok Tiwari -
Day 1 you release a recommendation of a planned order with an internal source.
Planner checks the firm checkbox.
On Day 2 (next plan run) would you expect that purchase requistion for the internal order to be firm?
User does not have profiles set to firm internal orders when passed to OE
Thanks in advancePlease post the details of the application release, database version and OS.
I can't release firm planned order from ASCP the following massage appear " FRM-40200 , Field is protected against update ".
appreciate your help on that.Please mention the navigation path along with the form name and version.
Thanks,
Hussein
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