Firming of schedule lines

Dear All,
We are using scenario where we are planning purchase requisitions in APO and sending them in ECC. In ECC we are converting them in to schedule lines. Once schedule lines they get firm in ECC and for APO as well. But we want to change them through APO in forecast delivery horizon i.e. outside JIT horizon. JIT horizon would be 4 days and 10 days FRC horizon.
Is it possible to unfix/ un firm schedule lines outside JIT horizon?
Is there any user exit for this??
Please advice.
Thanks & Regards,
Shirish Kulkarni

Hi
I do not think such facility is avaialable in Std SAP.
Regards
YMREDDY

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Firming the Schedule Lines in Sch.Agreement

Hi , I have done the following to firm the schedule lines in Scheduling agreement.
1. Firm Zone as 30 days
2.Tradeoff zone days as 60 days
3.Binding MRP indicator as NULL(Lines not changeable within Zones)
4.In OMIN , Firm Schedule lines enabled for the MRP group
When i run the MRP, schedule lines are getting created with Firm Indicator (*) for the requirements lying within these zones. After transmitting the schedule lines to vendor , if i change the requirement again, the schedule lines within Firm Zone are getting adjusted as per the new requirment. I dont know whats the purpose behind maintaining these Firm Zone and Trade off Zone.
Pointers are much appreciated.
Thanks and regards,
Milton Isaac

Hi,
Rolling delivery schedules issued under scheduling agreements are divided into different time zones indicating the degree to which lines of the schedule are binding.
Firm zone (zone 1) (go-ahead for production).
The schedule lines within this zone count as firm and thus as fully binding. If you cancel a schedule line that falls within the firm zone, the vendor is entitled to charge you with both production costs and the costs of procuring input materials incurred by him as a result of the cancellation.
Trade-off zone (zone 2) (go-ahead for procurement of input materials)
This is the "semi-firm" zone, giving the vendor the go-ahead to procure necessary input materials for the manufacture of the item ordered. If you cancel a schedule line within this semi-firm zone, the vendor is only entitled to charge you the material costs. Schedule lines falling within this time zone are thus less binding that those falling within the firm zone.

RE: Firming for Schedule Lines

Hi MM Gurus,
I have posted this question to ERP Manufacturing (PP) forum as I thought this is related to MRP settings.
I am working with MRP creating schedule lines automatically, I need way to have firming indicator for the schedule lines that created out of MRP. I have checked the forums and did some research, all mentioned about the time zones
Firm zone (zone 1) - Firmed
Trade-off zone (zone 2) - Semi Firmed
Planning zone (zone 3) - Forecast
But checking my Scheduling Agreement, ITEM > MORE FUNCTIONS > ADDITIONAL DATA, in the scheduling control portion the FIRM ZONE field and TRADE OFF ZONE field are not modifiable. I have changed SA-->Define document type for SA type to ensure that the indicator for scheduling agreement release documentation is ON. And defined the scheduling control field as optional, but still the FIELDS are grayed out/unmodifiable.
Is there any other configuration change I need to do in order to activate this?
Thanks,
Richard

I think below link clearly explain your scenario have a look at it,
[Firming the schedule lines from MRP|http://forums.sdn.sap.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9492313#9492313]

HOW TO FIRM THE SCHEDULE LINES

Dear All
Scenario is "" Through MRP i am creating the schedule lines for raw materials"".
Now I want that during my next planning run the already created schedule lines should remain firmed & according to requierement only new schedule lines should get created.
Please tell me the steps how can i firm my schedule lines.
Regards
Rahul Bhardwaj

Dera Rahul,
There is option in Schedule Line itself that u can give firming period and in that period schedule lines r firmed. Go to ME32L
enter ur SchedulingAgreement Then select ur material and click on Additional Data (Shift+F5). There under Scheduling Control 'Firm Zone' field is there, try with this option and see what i sresult.
Regards
Sunil Kumar

Firming for Schedule Lines

Hi Everyone,
I am working with MRP creating schedule lines automatically, I need way to have firming indicator for the schedule lines that created out of MRP. I have checked the forums and did some research, all mentioned about the time zones
Firm zone (zone 1) - Firmed
Trade-off zone (zone 2) - Semi Firmed
Planning zone (zone 3) - Forecast
But checking my Scheduling Agreement, ITEM > MORE FUNCTIONS > ADDITIONAL DATA, in the scheduling control portion the FIRM ZONE field and TRADE OFF ZONE field are not modifiable. Can you let me know if there's any other way where I can update this?
Thanks in advance,

Hi, In the config SA-->Define document type for your SA type ensure that the indicator for scheduling agreement release documentation is ON.
The fields relevant for the doc.type are specified by the entry in the 'Fleld selection' field. (like LPA or LPL).
Go to Define screen layout at document level.For the Field selection as above choose Scheduling control and double click on the above.
I can only guess that as you are using a customised SA type, the entry is selected as 'Display' for the fields for a custom Field selection again(NOT EQ LPA or LPL).
If yes, you can make it optional or Required.
See if this sorts out your issue.
Although it looks like a ordinary field control change, am not sure what impact inconsistencies/changes like this would bring.
Better to check with MM consultants before making use of the changes.
LP vs LPA: With LP the schedule lines are instantly transferred to vendor. With LPA you have the option to use a creation profile etc to transmit the data in your preferred time bucket at a later stage and then transmit it and not instantly like LP.

Firming the schedule lines from MRP

Hi All,
I have a scenario where I generate the scheule lines from the total planning run for the material with the help of schedule line indiator = 3.
I want these schedule lines should get automatically firmed. Which are the various ways by which I can do this?
Regards,
MHP

Dear
Using MRP Type with Firiming like P1 , P2 etc is the best way to deal with this situation .
However , there is option in Schedule Line itself that u can give firming period and in that period schedule lines r firmed. Go to ME32L enter ur Scheduling Agreement Then select ur material and click on Additional Data (Shift+F5). There under Scheduling Control 'Firm Zone' field is there, try with this option and see what is sresult?
If the date of a schedule line lies within the firm zone, the vendor has the go-ahead to produce the relevant quantity with the assurance that the orderer will bear any and all material and production costs associated with the scheduled quantity in the event of subsequent cancellation by the latter.
1. Another way of handling your issue is by using the manual firming .
2. In mdo4 in the Edit menu u will find a Set firming date.
3. Now you can select this and this will give u a popup for entering a date.
4.When u give a date in this and hit enter.
Also please note delivery schedule lines in ME38 (even it is created automatically), in Planning time fence, will get affected by MRP run.
Hope clear to you.
Regards
JH

Fixing (or firming) of Schedule lines

Good afternoon,
Is there any way that I can fix(or firm) schedule lines on mass via a vendor?
Thanks in advance.

Hi
I do not think such facility is avaialable in Std SAP.
Regards
YMREDDY

Firming of the schedule lines

Hi,
in MD04 we can see the firm indicator for some of the schedule lines. We aware of that this indicator is set based on the firm zone period and the schedule release date.
Apart from firm zone is there any other parameter makes the schedule line firm ( except manual change) Please clarify.
This is the very urgrent req from business so your immediate repsponse is really appreciated.
Thanks
Raj

Hi
You can firm all schedule lines which are printed or transmitted to vendor by customizing in OMIN for your plant and material group.
Or if you create schedule line manually.
Regards
Antony

System is not firming schedule line automatically

Hello,
I want to know how the end and start date of planning time fence is calculated and why system is not firming schedule line automatically.
In Material master I am using MRP type P1 and GR processing time 1 day, planned delivery time 1 day, planning time fence is 7 days. Lot size key EX
Today is 19.11.2008. And I have requirement of this material coming from FG on 20.11.2008.In MD04 transaction system is showing End of planning time fence is 28.11.2008 which is fine as per material master (+ 7 days excluding sat & Sunday).
When I run MRP for FG, system generates schedule line for this material procured form vendor for the required qty on 28.11.2008 with exception message (30-Plan process according to schedule20.11.08).
As per firming type P1 system should automatically firm the order since requirement date is on 20.11.2008 and it should show the schedule line on 20.11.2008 not on 28.11.2008
But when I change the delivery date manually from 28.11.2008 to 20.11.2008 it firms the schedule line.
Please suggest what can be the solution
Regards
Nanhe Babu

Dear,
Check your MRP type and Planning time fence defined in mrp 1 view of material master?
Firm zone (go-ahead for production)
One of two periods specifying the degree to which the delivery schedule lines of a scheduling agreement release are classified as firm or semi-firm.
Use
! Firm zone I Trade-off zone I
!--!-II> Days
SA release creation date Schedule line date
Firm zone: (go-ahead for production)
If the date of a schedule line lies within the firm zone, the vendor has the go-ahead to produce the relevant quantity with the assurance that the orderer will bear any and all material and production costs associated with the scheduled quantity in the event of subsequent cancellation by the latter.
1. Another way of handling your issue is by using the manual firming .
2. In mdo4 in the Edit menu u will find a Set firming date.
3. Now you can select this and this will give u a popup for entering a date.
4.When u give a date in this and hit enter.
Also please note delivery schedule lines in ME38 (even it is created automatically), in Planning time fence, will get affected by MRP run.
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

MRP Type P1 and late firm schedule lines

Hello All,
     We are using MRP Type P1 which firms our schedule agreement schedule lines within the planning time fence (as desired). However, sometimes the supplier is late on delivery and the firm schedule line goes into the past.
     Is it possible to have MRP move the firm schedule line delivery date to today instead of going into the past?
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Hi ,
Bring process forward (reschedule in)
Within this rescheduling horizon, the net requirements calculation checks whether, after a requirement, a firmed receipt exists, which can be used to cover this requirement. Then the system displays a rescheduling date as well as the exception message Bring process forward for this receipt. The net requirements calculation then uses this receipt and the system will only create another procurement proposal if the receipt quantity is not sufficient to cover the complete requirement. Several firmed receipts can be used to cover one requirement.
It does not take in to account the GR processing time and it is purely based on the stock requirement date , parameters in Procurement and Scheduling in the Material Master
So it will consume the requirement backward scheduling and bring the Process forward.
Kumar which strategy are you using ? scheduling agreement is of weekly , daily or monthly bucket ?
How many days SA bring to Production and How many days SA for forecast you are doing ?
Are you using any Program to convert these SA in to PIR and upload ( using any program ) .
Regards,
Jayavimal
Edited by: jaya vimal on Jun 16, 2010 1:33 PM

Scheduling Agreement Schedule Lines firmed after outbound delivery

Dear All,
We use scheduling agreement for cross-company process in our client. After MRP run schedule lines created automatically. For the next step outbound delivery is created via VL10F (or VL10B).
After outbound delivery creation, on MD04 or ME39, i see the schedule line firmed (*). Because firmig MRP doesn't change those schedule lines. This is a problem for our client.
Do you know a way for MRP can change the schedule lines even outbound delivery created ? How can i manage this situation ?
Best regards,

Hi Anil
The '*' that you see means that the schedule line has been changed manually and the Firming indicator (EKET-FIXKZ) is set when there is any change to the Schedule line.
So, when a Delivery is created, the schedule line should be 'Fixed'.
Otheriwse, MRP can delete or change this schedule line and it would cause an inconsistency in the system. This is the logically intended behaviour.
Please see the F1 help for the field EKET-FIXKZ:
"Schedule Line is "Fixed"
Fixes the schedule line and determines that it cannot now be automatically changed as a result of materials planning and control/MRP activities.
Procedure
The indicator is set automatically if:
.- You make manual changes to a line of a scheduling agreement delivery schedule that was created via the materials planning process
.- You create a schedule line manually
Dependencies
You can specify whether Materials Planning/MRP can change delivery schedule lines within the firm and trade-off zones in the additional data for the scheduling agreement item."
I hope this helps.
Anna

MD04 firm schedule line - ME38 schedule line manualy changed

Hello Gurus,
many users change manually quantity in schedule lines but then the schedule is locked and becomes firm in MD04 ( * ) so that MRP does not take this quantity into account.
How to change this behaviour as I want the MRP to take this modification into account ?
Thanks a lot.

Hi,
When your users change a schedule line they are automatically firmed as the system can only assume that they know more about the supply position than it does.
MRP does take the quantity into account, however, it is not allowed to change the date nor the quantity, so any increase or decrease in demand is reflected in the first unfirmed schedule line.
This behaviour is not configurable.
If the firmed schedule line is not correct because the user has made a change in error then you need to set the quantity to zero so that the schedule line is deleted. MRP will then create a new schedule line in line with the planning parameters and current stocks / demand.
Hope that has answered your question
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I had my firm zone in schedule agreement upto 21st Aug, 2010. And the schedule lines under release are like this
Category       Del. Date       Quantity                     Line type
D     08/12/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/16/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/19/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/20/2010     6,612.000          F
D     08/23/2010     6,612.000          P
D     08/26/2010     6,612.000          P
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Thanks

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symbol indicates that you have done manual intervention in the purchase order mentioned.
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I need to understand why and how a Released schedule line in firm zone can be changed in the background?

If the qty is not transmitted to the vendor using message transmission, system does not firm the qty with in planning time fence.
So pls chk your planning time fence as well.
Also pls chk the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/f4/7d2a5b44af11d182b40000e829fbfe/content.htm
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symbol indicates that you have done manual intervention in the purchase order mentioned.
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