First 6 core MP results with Logic...and they're worse than the quad

Starting a new thread for this...
Here's the first report I've seen of 6 cores on Logic. Logic shows 6 bars in the CPU meter. But he ran the "evan" benchmark and performance was worse than on a quad at a lower clock speed, only 47 tracks. For comparison, 4 cores (with HT enabled) at 2.26 gave 50 tracks - the new machine has two more cores and 47% higher clock speed.
http://macperformanceguide.com/Reviews-MacProWestmere-LogicStudio.html
For comparison, a while back I simulated six cores by disabling two on my eight core MP 2.26 and got 32 tracks. The difference matches the difference in clock speed. In my test the result for six cores was identical to that of four cores with hyperthreading disabled. My guess is that with the current version of Logic, the six core machines might get a big speed boost if two of the cores are disabled, basically turning it back down to a quad - my estimate would be about 73 tracks.
Logic has lacked support for new machines before, but this is the first time I've actually seen performance get worse with a new machine with more cores (and much faster clock speed). If this doesn't provide incentive for Apple to update for better support of cores, I don't know what will.

Exactly. You would think that if the app wasn't programmed to support four cores, the worst case scenario would be that it would just use four of them and provide the same performance as a quad. But instead it seems like the extra cores confuse the app and it actually performs considerably worse than a quad.
No question they are due for a Logic update asap or get some bad press once word gets out.

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Any help would be REALLY appreciated. I need the routing assistance along with some direction as to whether or not this will work for this type of application. I'm pretty certain it does, as I have spoken with some other teachers in similar venues and they have been doing similar things using mac mini's / logic / mainstage / etc.
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Revision: 4793
Author: [email protected]
Date: 2009-02-02 11:20:06 -0800 (Mon, 02 Feb 2009)
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Fix bug SDK-17734 Path with width and height set different than path data has incorrect bounds
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