First 'impression' of Safari 3.0 Beta in the first 5 minuites of use.

I'm using Windows Vista Home Premium and just downloaded Safari 3.0 for Windows Public Beta (Not included Quicktime)
The installation is processed smoothly.
I used it 5 minuites and my first impression is nothing but BUGs BUGs BUGs.
Alway Crash:
1. When click anything concerning Bookmarks, Safari crashes. (In other word, cannot use Bookmarks.)
2. When fill in any form, Safari crashes.
3. When access any pages with Javascript, Safari crashes.
Sometime Crash:
1. When access some pages, Safari randomly crashes. Ordinary pages such as this website itself. The symtom is both CPU core work reach 100% and needed to restart computer.
2. Randomly show message like "file not found, need reinstall." in any page, of course, even this page.
Bugs:
1. Cannot click on the button on the taskbar to minimize.
2. When minimize and restore, the Safari window going in restore down state.
3. Memory leak as I monitering RAM usage: increases more than 100MB when open Safari.
4. Font smoothing shows almost illegible.
Let down function:
1. Safari 3.0 for Windows Public Beta is the slowest web browser among all of browsers in my notebook. (IE7, Firefox, Opera, Cameleon Browser.)
STOP! saying "This is just a BETA!".
I love to test beta software and report bugs. I'm not a techical geeks so my testing method is to use them just as I always use in everyday life. No tweak or special use I squeesh to the program. I understand the BETA is not FINAL and of course, have more bugs than FINAL.
But this is not what I call bugs. I call "cannot be used."
How can you guy call this "PUBLIC" Beta? Have your programmer even see it in action in Windows before release to public?
This application is the second Apple application I experienced. (The first is iTunes.) It totally let me down because when compare with Internet Explorer 7 Beta 1 I tested last year, Safari 3.0 Public Beta is not in my sight.
How can you apply guy convince me that Apple is better than Microsoft since I compare just an essential small program and found no pros, even both are in beta state?
Hope to see Beta 2 with no major crash in the first 5 minuites usage.
ASUS W7F Windows Vista Intel Centrino Duo 2.00GHz 1.5GB DDRII Ram

Downgrading via Archive and install is notoriously unreliable. It is much safer to simply retrieve your backup you made before you installed the update after an erase and install. Of course you make at least two backups. Selective file recovery may be in order, such as found in migrating from PowerPC to Intel Macs:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=435350&tstart=0

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Date/Time: 2007-10-24 10:11:07.015 +0200
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R218)
Report Version: 4
Command: Safari
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Parent: WindowServer 65
Version: 3.0.3 (522.12.1)
Build Version: 2
Project Name: WebBrowser
Source Version: 45221201
PID: 227
Thread: 0
Exception: EXCBADACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERNINVALIDADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x007fd008
Thread 0 Crashed:
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a40428 classlookupMethodAndLoadCache + 432
1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a401d4 objc_msgSend + 244
2 com.apple.Safari 0x00007110 0x1000 + 24848
3 com.apple.Safari 0x00006f5c 0x1000 + 24412
4 com.apple.Safari 0x00006ebc 0x1000 + 24252
5 com.apple.AppKit 0x9387aa58 -NSDocument initWithType:error: + 40
6 com.apple.AppKit 0x9387a470 -NSDocumentController makeUntitledDocumentOfType:error: + 276
7 com.apple.AppKit 0x93879ec4 -NSDocumentController openUntitledDocumentAndDisplay:error: + 252
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x93879d84 -NSDocumentController newDocument: + 44
9 com.apple.Safari 0x00006a8c 0x1000 + 23180
10 com.apple.AppKit 0x937831dc -NSApplication _doOpenUntitled + 272
11 com.apple.AppKit 0x9377f9a4 -NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleAEOpen: + 224
12 com.apple.AppKit 0x9377f574 -NSApplication(NSAppleEventHandling) _handleCoreEvent:withReplyEvent: + 92
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x92be1af0 -NSAppleEventManager dispatchRawAppleEvent:withRawReply:handlerRefCon: + 380
14 com.apple.Foundation 0x92be1950 _NSAppleEventManagerGenericHandler + 92
15 com.apple.AE 0x914ff960 aeDispatchAppleEvent(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*, unsigned long, unsigned char*) + 208
16 com.apple.AE 0x914ff7fc dispatchEventAndSendReply(AEDesc const*, AEDesc*) + 44
17 com.apple.AE 0x914ff654 aeProcessAppleEvent + 284
18 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x9329b2e0 AEProcessAppleEvent + 60
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x9377dcbc _DPSNextEvent + 856
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x9377d7a8 -NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue: + 116
21 com.apple.Safari 0x00006770 0x1000 + 22384
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x93779cec -NSApplication run + 472
23 com.apple.AppKit 0x9386a87c NSApplicationMain + 452
24 com.apple.Safari 0x0000246c 0x1000 + 5228
25 com.apple.Safari 0x0004f1b0 0x1000 + 319920
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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000b29c mach_msg + 60
2 com.unsanity.ape 0xc0001b54 _apeagent + 296
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cr: 0x24004248 xer: 0x0000000000000004 lr: 0x0000000090a40354 ctr: 0x0000000090001a38
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r4: 0x0000000000481520 r5: 0x0000000090a45000 r6: 0x00000000ffffffff r7: 0x0000000000000006
r8: 0x0000000000000006 r9: 0x00000000007fd000 r10: 0x0000000000410ed0 r11: 0x000000000004a4e8
r12: 0x0000000090001a38 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x00000000bffff260 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000456930
r20: 0x00000000ffffffff r21: 0x00000000bffff080 r22: 0x00000000bffff0f0 r23: 0x0000000000480550
r24: 0x00000000bffff0e0 r25: 0x0000000000000000 r26: 0x0000000090a876a8 r27: 0x000000000073f180
r28: 0x0000000000402138 r29: 0x0000000000000000 r30: 0x0000000000137a80 r31: 0x0000000090a40280
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thanks for the tip by the way but i tried that and i couldnt find anything in my 'application enhancers' folder that could relate to safari. All i had was a file named 'ShapeShifter.ape'.
i then tried deleting that file because i dont use that program anymore but it wouldnt delete because it said that the file is still in use.
Then i quit all my programs, relaunched Finder and tried emptying the trash can again but still it said that it was in use.
Finally i just tried opening Safari again but still it crashes at launch.

Safari 4.0 Beta always crashing on Windows XP...

I had a Windows XP partition (which ended up getting very bad malware, so I deleted it and started a new one) on my MBP, and Safari 4.0 Beta always crashed on it (this was before the malware infection). Now, jump to my new Windows XP partition: so far, Safari 4.0 crashed only once in the few hours I had it (I'm expecting it to probably crash again very soon). Is there any known bug(s) with Safari 4.0 Beta to cause it to crash this often? Am I better off downgrading to 3.x?

So I'm assuming, then, that there are some bugs that need working out with Safari 4.0 Beta for Windows. After all, I've used Safari 4.0 Beta for Mac ever since it was released and I never had it crash once. I guess, if Safari keeps randomly crashing on me in Windows, I'll have to temporarily downgrade to 3.x until they fix this issue with a finalized 4.0...

I am unable to print PDF's using either Adobe Reader or Safari. In Adobe Reader, I get an error message from my Cannon printer that says, "/usr.libexec/cups/filter/pstocupsraster failed". In Safari, I can only print the first page of a PDF.

To try to resolve this problem, I have done the following actions.
1 - I have run Disk Warrior.
2 - I have repaired permissions.
3 - I have deleted all plist that are either Cannon or Adobe.
4 - I have downloaded and installed the lastest versions of Adobe Reader and the Cannon printer drivers.
I am still unable to print PDF's.
In Safari, I can print only the first page. In a multipage PDF, Safari only seems to recognize the first page.
In Adobe Reader, I get an error message from my printer: "/usr/libexec/cups/filter/pstocupsraster failed".
Any help would be greatly appreicated!

Quit Safari.
Open the Library folder in your home folder as follows:
☞ If running OS X 10.7 or later, hold down the option key and select Go ▹ Library from the Finder menu bar.
☞ If running an older version of OS X, select Go ▹ Go to Folder… from the Finder menu bar and copy the line below into the text box that opens:
~/Library
Delete the following items from the Library folder:
Caches/com.apple.Safari/Cache.db
Preferences/com.apple.quicktime.plugin.preferences.plist
Preferences/QuickTime Preferences
Relaunch Safari and test.
Launch the Console application in any of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ If you’re running OS X 10.7 or later, open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Console in the page that opens.
Select "/var/log/cups/error_log" from the file list. Post the messages from the time of the last printing attempt.
Post the log text, please, not a screenshot. If there are runs of repeated messages, post only one example of each. Don’t post many repetitions of the same message.

Safari 3.01 beta (Windows) too slow on some machines

On certain Windows machines I have, the Safari 3.01 beta is incredibly slow, as reported by a few others in this forum. The pages--any page, from the simple Google search page to local .html files--will ultimately load after minutes, often with pictures and other embedded objects timing out. That this happens with local .html files as well as sites readily accessible in other browsers indicates it's not a connectivity or networking problem per se.
OK, I've now uninstalled and re-installed, with various combinations of clearing out the user settings under the %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Apple Computer or not, and still cannot get around this problem.
I cannot identify anything in common between the machines except for the Safari Beta and that they are Windows XP Professional SP2 systems with all current updates as of now. The particular machine from which I'm posting this has the problem; it's a Celeron 4/2.6 GHz with 1 GB RAM, so it shouldn't be an issue.
Incidentally, this is really an alpha release that doesn't remotely deserve to be tagged as a beta; I know that catching the WWDC deadline to publicize the release was important, but Apple should come clean as to the level of testing and alpha status of this product, even if it is free, considering it is being so publicly advertised and wrongly hyped as fast. I'd trade stability for (reasonable) speed any given day, especially for those of us whose primary interest in the product is Web design QA under different browsers/rendering engines.
Any suggestions?

whaterverfdsa wrote:
Is the problem the system/install of OC or the profile/user. Try reinstalling OC on the "fast" system but use the profile/user of one of the "slow" systems.Have tried the other way around (tried with the "fast user" on the "slow machine" :o)... still slow..)In which case the problem is unlikely to be "server-side". You can also review the Outlook Connector debug logs to see if there is some indication of why the delay is occuring.
http://wikis.sun.com/display/CommSuite/Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting-Logging
I can't seem to get any IMAP telemetry logs from outlook connector....
I wasn't quite sure what was meant when the docs say create a directory imap/<userid>. What is the userid? So I tried some variations. This is for user in the default domain. Tried jdoe, [email protected] and an alias address (it was the mail-value in ldap). Nothing appeared when using the outlook connector, but when I added the account as an imap account in outlook, logs appeared in the jdoe-directory... Doesn't the outlook connector use imap???
Yes it does. Telemetry logs are only created for new connections after the telemetry directory for the user has been created. So you would need to restart Outlook to get the log files.
(btw: imap idle doesn't seem to work when using outlook connector, but works when using imap account...?)It definitely appears Outlook Connector does not make use of IMAP IDLE. A quick search didn't reveal any existing enhancement requests to have this functionality added.
Regards,
Shane.

Is this beta? The image for Yosemite is a very big rock, appropriate as this OS sends your mac back to the stone-age. iTunes crashes on open, iPhoto won't download, movies won't play, Safari won't show graphics, wifi down to speed of crippled snail.

Is this beta. The image for Yosemite is a very big rock, appropriate as this OS sends your mac back to the stone-age. iTunes crashes on open, iPhoto won't update, Safari shows text without graphics, can't get Java 8 'cause Safari "can't find server". Wifi slower than a crippled snail. Does anyone know how to uninstall this rubbish?

travellingbirder wrote:
Is this beta ?
You tell us Finding the OS X version and build information on your Mac.

Safari 4 Public Beta and plugin problems

At the risk of provoking the wagging of many fingers and the raising of many more eyebrows all wondering what was I thinking when I installed a public beta of anything on my editing system I feel (sheepishly) compelled to report that the installation of Safari 4 Public Beta disabled some - but not all - of my Noise Industries FX Factory Pro plugins. Naturally, in the middle of a project. And of course, this took me quite a long time to figure out. And you guessed it, I did multiple reinstallations of FX Factory 2.0.3 (I'm on OS 10.4.11), FCS2 and the OS itself.
After some serious Googling I happened to discover that back in July 2008 some developers working with very early versions of Safari 4 reported plugin conflicts. And the moral of the story is....

David, you're absolutely right. However, I can report that Safari 4 does have a lot of great features. Your turn to try out the next version.
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Safari 4.0 Beta - Simply amazing!

Unbelievable! ---- Bravo!
I haven't been wow'd by an Internet browser since Microsoft Internet Explorer .5 Beta!
I can't believe what Apple has accomplished in such a short period of time. I've been using Firefox, which is still a fantastic browser, but Safari 4.0 beats Firefox in performance (speed) and features in every way.
I love the fact that I can boot-up Safari 4.0 right into the Bookmarks folder and that it has the look, feel and functionality of Vista Aero.
This is truly an amazing browser, and it might become my default browser by the end of the month.
I haven't encountered any bugs or problems at all in the 3 days that I've been testing it.
To the folks at Apple, a big THANK YOU!

How do I download the Safari 4.0 beta on my iPhone?
You can't until and unless Apple makes an update available which includes it. Software designed for a Mac or PC can't be used on an iPhone.
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Safari 4.0 Beta

What's the difference between 4.0 Beta and the current 3.2.1? What is Beta? Should I download 4.0 Beta?

Beta, in essense, means 'we think it's ready for everyone to use, but there are probably some kinks and bugs to work out still'. In other words, expect the odd bug here and there.
http://www.apple.com/safari will give you the lowdown on the new features that are present in Safari 4 Beta.
Edit: Wikipedia has a more complete answer regarding beta software:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_version#Beta

I want Safari 4 Public Beta back.

I know the Beta version was for testing, but I liked my tabs on top of the window! I just ran Software Update, but shouldn't have installed the new version of Safari! It was fine (except I had to reach for the corner of each tab to drag, but I got used to it). I googled "Safari 4 Public Beta," but all the links referred me to the new version!
Also, is it just me or does the new version load slower than the Beta version?

Please refer to one of the other many,many,many threads on this same subject here in the forums. They will give you the download link and instructions to reinstall the beta, but do remember that you will do so at some risk, because Safari 4 has addressed over 50 security issues that were not in the beta release. Sometimes it is better to post you specific issues so other users can help you address them and get Safari 4 running as it should like it does for most of the other millions of users who downloaded it and are running it with no problems whatsoever (and so don't bother posting here in the ER.) Good luck
Cheers

Is Safari still in beta?

I have a pc machine that I just got up to date. Is Safari stable in windows and safe to use? I would like to switch from IE to what I'm used to using on my macs, but should I?

I would say: YES YOU CAN! I'm using it as my default browser and it's great. I recommend you get the latest beta of the ADC website at connect.apple.com - registration is free.
The build available build on the "normal" Apple website is from November and the latest build in the ADC is from February 15th; there's a big difference between those two versions. If you don't want to stick with betas, just be a little more patient. From my experience with the latest Safari for Windows builds, I'd say it's close to a final release.

Is the ipad two better then the first ipad and how?

is the ipad two better then the first ipad and how? please explain and use detail if possible.

Davly24-
I agree with Meg. One other difference I know of, is that the digital HDMI adapter can send a mirror of your iPad 2 screen to an HDTV. It only works for some applications like the Photos Slide Show on the iPad 1.
Fred

Is the second generation better that the first one?

Hi I want too buy an ipod nano but i don't know if the second generation is better than the first one. Ive had one but i returned 2 weeks later because of the battery. I want another one but i want to know hoow long your battery stays because i don't want to have the same problem.
thanks

i can confirm this, having just bought a 2 Gen case for my 3 Gen.

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