First impressions: 24-inch iMac
I've been completely happy with my 20" 2.0 GHz iMac G5, but a 24" screen is hard to resist. So I picked one up at the local Apple Store yesterday.
First off, let me comment on the display. It's not perfect. I definitely have some darkness in the corners, but it really runs the entire length of the sides. It's somewhat disappointing, and is most noticeable on both sides of the menu bar.
Also, the lighting of the display in general is uneven. When looking at an all-white screen, the lighting seems to vary in fat horizontal bands across the width of the screen. But this isn't noticeable in normal use.
Finally, dead pixels: I have 4 (my iMac G5 had 1). Only 1 is normally noticable; the other 3 just show up as dim green spots when the screen is dark.
Having said all this, I think I'll keep the machine. I find I don't notice the pixels in normal use. If I used the machine to watch movies they'd probably be annoying, but I don't. We'll see.
Other than the display, the most surprising thing so far is that it doesn't feel any faster than my iMac G5. I had expected a huge difference. I'll see if performance improves when I upgrade it to 2 GB RAM from the standard 1 GB (I have 2 GB in the G5).
The speakers suck, but that's no surprise. I don't use them anyway.
The FireWire migration from the G5 was very smooth; not perfect but better than I expected.
15" PowerBook G4, 20" iMac G5, 24" iMac Mac OS X (10.4.7)
I received mine last Thursday (ordered it on Monday 9/11, had it from Shanghai to New York by Thursday, not bad).
Anyway, this thing is fantastic. The screen is beautiful, and HUGE. When I first unpacked it I was worried that the screen was almost too big but that has faded now that I am used to the size of it. How did I live with a 17" Studio Display for so long?
My screen is great, no dead/stuck pixels that I can see so I'm very happy about that (I had the same good luck with my 17" Studio Display, which has been 100% perfect and trouble-free for the 4 years I had it). I might have the dark corners, didn't notice it until reading this thread. Thanks a lot, guys.
I'm very happy with it.
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Spinning beach ball woes on 27 inch iMac
We have a mid 2010 27 inch iMac (and also a late 2010 13 inch MacBook Air, from which I am writing this post). About 6 months ago it was starting to get spinning beach balls, which I attributed to not having updated the OS (then 10.7). Having upgraded the Air to Mavericks with success, I also upgraded the iMac to Mavericks, and the beach balls got much, much worse, rendering the thing nearly unusable. I cannot for the life of me figure out what the issue is, particularly because the Air, which is about the same vintage, is working great under the same setup. Can someone who has not been staring at this problem for 6 months help?
Here's what I've got:
As I mentioned, mid 2010 27-inch iMac, 1TB hard drive, about half-full, backing up to a 2 TB Time Capsule.
We have two wifi networks to cover the whole house; one is integrated with the cable company's provided router and sits in the basement, and the other is the Time Capsule hooked up to the cable company's VoIP router upstairs. Because you cannot use the Time Capsule to extend an existing network if it is not an Apple network, I resorted to setting each wifi network up independently (separately connected to ethernet). My Air navigates this just fine, as do our iPads/iPhones, and I don't notice a speed difference between the two networks (assuming I have equally good reception wherever I am).
Notably, the Time Capsule seems to randomly stop broadcasting wifi every now and then (at intervals of a few days to a couple weeks), which requires a restart to get it working again. (This could be totally unrelated.)
The iMac was at 10.7 when the beach balls started; upgrading to Mavericks made the slowness/beachballs worse. As I noted, Mavericks did not cause any trouble with the Air.
The beach balls seem to coincide with a complete stall in everything the computer is doing. After the stall ends, the computer can be fairly speedy, so it's as if it pauses for several seconds to a minute or so to think very hard, and then goes back to its business.
There is usually a slight improvement if I shut down and boot up again, but it gums up pretty quickly.
Here's what I've done:
Started with 4GB RAM; added another 8 (total 12) after this all started. Equally bad before and after.
Stared at Activity Monitor and Console for long periods of time while watching for beach balls to try to detect a pattern.
In Activity Monitor, memory pressure is fine (esp. now that I added 8 GB), no swap used. The two worst offenders under CPU usage seem to be kernel_task or WindowServer, but they are not always monopolizing the CPU at the times when it is stalled.
In Console, the main two patterns seemed to be a frequent WindowServer "updates forcibly disabled" error, and what seemed like a constant browsing for wifi connections even though the computer was already connected to wifi. However, I couldn't figure out what either of these meant or what might be done to fix them.
Used disk utility, repaired permissions, verified disk, etc. - everything was ok, although some permissions were repaired.
Used third-party utilities, Onyx and iDefrag, to try to verify disk and clean things up. No significant problems detected, and no improvement.
Various other methods of cleaning up -- eliminating old software or files that aren't being used, emptying trash, taking extra files off the desktop, etc. In particular, having read that Mail might have issues handling Google accounts, I eliminated a heavily-used Google account from Mail and got a separate, lighter-weight third-party app to handle that account. That did seem improve things at first, but we seem to be back to slowness and beach balls again.
Final, last-ditch effort: backed up and then erased hard drive and (after another Disk Utility verify - still fine) did a clean install of Mavericks.
It took several attempts to download the installer using the Time Capsule network (kept stalling); switched to the other (non-Apple) wifi network and it downloaded and installed fine.
However, after the clean install, although it was not nearly as slow as before, amazingly, I still had spinning beach balls and hanging without having installed anything other than the OS.
I made several attempts to get into the backup to selectively reinstall files. Could not mount backup using Time Capsule -- option-clicking and selecting "Browse Other Backups" did not actually get me to the other backup. Using Migration Assistant, could not get the backup to load, or the loading was taking an inordinately long period of time, so I gave up. (Also, every time I tried to quit Migration Assistant to try to discover the problem with the backup loading, it hung and I had to hard-restart.)
So, since the clean install did not seem to fix the problem, and I was starting to worry about not being able to get to my backup, I have gone back to just restoring from the Time Capsule. It's telling me this will take over 200 hours.
The one thing I haven't tried is shutting down the computer, lugging it upstairs, and connecting it to Time Capsule via ethernet, at least for the restoration. I will do this if I leave the computer overnight and it's still not done in the morning.
I've done much searching of these discussion boards, and tried everything that seemed like a possible culprit. What am I missing? (Other than ditching this computer and buying a different one?)We have a mid 2010 27 inch iMac (and also a late 2010 13 inch MacBook Air, from which I am writing this post). About 6 months ago it was starting to get spinning beach balls, which I attributed to not having updated the OS (then 10.7). Having upgraded the Air to Mavericks with success, I also upgraded the iMac to Mavericks, and the beach balls got much, much worse, rendering the thing nearly unusable. I cannot for the life of me figure out what the issue is, particularly because the Air, which is about the same vintage, is working great under the same setup. Can someone who has not been staring at this problem for 6 months help?
Here's what I've got:
As I mentioned, mid 2010 27-inch iMac, 1TB hard drive, about half-full, backing up to a 2 TB Time Capsule.
We have two wifi networks to cover the whole house; one is integrated with the cable company's provided router and sits in the basement, and the other is the Time Capsule hooked up to the cable company's VoIP router upstairs. Because you cannot use the Time Capsule to extend an existing network if it is not an Apple network, I resorted to setting each wifi network up independently (separately connected to ethernet). My Air navigates this just fine, as do our iPads/iPhones, and I don't notice a speed difference between the two networks (assuming I have equally good reception wherever I am).
Notably, the Time Capsule seems to randomly stop broadcasting wifi every now and then (at intervals of a few days to a couple weeks), which requires a restart to get it working again. (This could be totally unrelated.)
The iMac was at 10.7 when the beach balls started; upgrading to Mavericks made the slowness/beachballs worse. As I noted, Mavericks did not cause any trouble with the Air.
The beach balls seem to coincide with a complete stall in everything the computer is doing. After the stall ends, the computer can be fairly speedy, so it's as if it pauses for several seconds to a minute or so to think very hard, and then goes back to its business.
There is usually a slight improvement if I shut down and boot up again, but it gums up pretty quickly.
Here's what I've done:
Started with 4GB RAM; added another 8 (total 12) after this all started. Equally bad before and after.
Stared at Activity Monitor and Console for long periods of time while watching for beach balls to try to detect a pattern.
In Activity Monitor, memory pressure is fine (esp. now that I added 8 GB), no swap used. The two worst offenders under CPU usage seem to be kernel_task or WindowServer, but they are not always monopolizing the CPU at the times when it is stalled.
In Console, the main two patterns seemed to be a frequent WindowServer "updates forcibly disabled" error, and what seemed like a constant browsing for wifi connections even though the computer was already connected to wifi. However, I couldn't figure out what either of these meant or what might be done to fix them.
Used disk utility, repaired permissions, verified disk, etc. - everything was ok, although some permissions were repaired.
Used third-party utilities, Onyx and iDefrag, to try to verify disk and clean things up. No significant problems detected, and no improvement.
Various other methods of cleaning up -- eliminating old software or files that aren't being used, emptying trash, taking extra files off the desktop, etc. In particular, having read that Mail might have issues handling Google accounts, I eliminated a heavily-used Google account from Mail and got a separate, lighter-weight third-party app to handle that account. That did seem improve things at first, but we seem to be back to slowness and beach balls again.
Final, last-ditch effort: backed up and then erased hard drive and (after another Disk Utility verify - still fine) did a clean install of Mavericks.
It took several attempts to download the installer using the Time Capsule network (kept stalling); switched to the other (non-Apple) wifi network and it downloaded and installed fine.
However, after the clean install, although it was not nearly as slow as before, amazingly, I still had spinning beach balls and hanging without having installed anything other than the OS.
I made several attempts to get into the backup to selectively reinstall files. Could not mount backup using Time Capsule -- option-clicking and selecting "Browse Other Backups" did not actually get me to the other backup. Using Migration Assistant, could not get the backup to load, or the loading was taking an inordinately long period of time, so I gave up. (Also, every time I tried to quit Migration Assistant to try to discover the problem with the backup loading, it hung and I had to hard-restart.)
So, since the clean install did not seem to fix the problem, and I was starting to worry about not being able to get to my backup, I have gone back to just restoring from the Time Capsule. It's telling me this will take over 200 hours.
The one thing I haven't tried is shutting down the computer, lugging it upstairs, and connecting it to Time Capsule via ethernet, at least for the restoration. I will do this if I leave the computer overnight and it's still not done in the morning.
I've done much searching of these discussion boards, and tried everything that seemed like a possible culprit. What am I missing? (Other than ditching this computer and buying a different one?) -
The other evening we had a storm and lightening hit a house a few doors from me. It jolted my chair but that seemed to be all here. I use my laptop most of the time but since there was a software download I went to my 27 inch iMac and could not wake it from sleep. The light on the keyboard is not lit either. I have this connected to a Battery Backup Power so do not know what has happened or what to do. When I push the power button to try to turn it on nothing happens. There is no shound, no video, nothing; however the disk drive that does my time maching backup has a light on it and the other things that are plugged into the battery power pack also have lights on them. The printer is on and says it is ready to print. Since I cannot boot it up I do not know what to do to even try to get it started. I did not know what would happen if I put the first start up disk in the external disk drive and try that or not. The internal drive is broken. I do not have any repair shops or apple stores around me at all less than 150 miles away and I am disabled with 24/7 help and oxygen so can not take it in. Are there any suggestions that anyone can give me. I have not been able to find any way to reset the backup battery pack either. It is a Tripp-Lite. Any help anyone can give will be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your time and trouble.
JeanThe other evening we had a storm and lightening hit a house a few doors from me. It jolted my chair but that seemed to be all here. I use my laptop most of the time but since there was a software download I went to my 27 inch iMac and could not wake it from sleep. The light on the keyboard is not lit either. I have this connected to a Battery Backup Power so do not know what has happened or what to do. When I push the power button to try to turn it on nothing happens. There is no shound, no video, nothing; however the disk drive that does my time maching backup has a light on it and the other things that are plugged into the battery power pack also have lights on them. The printer is on and says it is ready to print. Since I cannot boot it up I do not know what to do to even try to get it started. I did not know what would happen if I put the first start up disk in the external disk drive and try that or not. The internal drive is broken. I do not have any repair shops or apple stores around me at all less than 150 miles away and I am disabled with 24/7 help and oxygen so can not take it in. Are there any suggestions that anyone can give me. I have not been able to find any way to reset the backup battery pack either. It is a Tripp-Lite. Any help anyone can give will be greatly appreciated. Thanking you in advance for your time and trouble.
Jean -
This Lion wireless issue has become more than just an irritation, so much so, my wife has resorted to sitting in front of a 27 inch imac with a 300 dollar Walmart Windows computer to get the bills paid and use the web. And yes, there is not a fix out there I haven't tried over the last year or so, some worked and some didn't, but all were temporary at best. Same issue with my Macair, I wonder if its a hardware issue, like the video card in my 2006 MBP, it went out after the warrenty and then I found out there was a calss action suit going on over it, unfortunately Apple wouldn't cover it and wanted 7oo bucks to fix it, sold that as parts.
While i really like me Macs, I own three, I may have to bow out and stick with LINUX, that has yet to let me down, anyone know if Mountain will fix this issue? or are we all just waiting for defective WiFi cards to fail at our own expense, PS, got three Macs for sale.Sounds like you're getting kernel panics, which are usually, but not always, caused by hardware problems, with memory being one of the regular culprits.
First thing I would do is to get our your original OS X disks, insert the first one (should say 'AHT version x.x' in small print on the label - if not, find the one that does), and reboot holding the Alt key down. Choose the Apple hardware test, and when prompted, choose the extended test. If you have either of the TechTool programs, they can do similar testing. Does that identify any hardware issues?
Next, I'd download rember from http://www.kelleycomputing.net/rember/ . This is a memory testing program that you can set to run overnight. Does it come up with any errors? If so, try resetting your memory card(s) by removing and putting back into the computer. Rerun memory test.
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Late 2009 21.5 Inch iMac not updating to Snow Leopard 10.6.4
I recently took my Late 2009 21.5-inch iMac (1TB HD) to the Apple Store to get it fixed due to a hard drive crash. I got the hard drive replaced and I thought everything was back to normal. Today, I saw Apple had released a beta for FaceTime on the Mac. I downloaded this, started to install it, and it told me I was missing a critical security patch (2010-005). I ran software update, and it said all my software was up to date, so I went to apple.com and downloaded it directly. It started to install and when I got to the hard disk destination, it told me that my hard drive (Macintosh HD) doesn't meet the system requirements. Well, I looked up the requirements, and the only requirement was Snow Leopard 10.6.4. I went into about my mac from the Apple menu and saw that I was running 10.6.3. This confused me further because I had run software update, and I suspected software update would catch an OS update. Anyway, I went to apple.com to download Snow Leopard 10.6.4 directly since software update didn't catch it. I choose the combo pack first, and I didn't have any luck installing it. It did the exact same thing the security update did. I got to the hard disk destination, and it told me the volume didn't meet the requirements. I then tried the regular update and got the same results. Starting to get confused, I checked what the requirements were for Snow Leopard 10.6.4. The only requirement was to have Snow Leopard 10.6.3. This is where I don't understand what's happening. I am already running 10.6.3. Since that was the only requirement, shouldn't I be able to install it? Please help me out. I'm SUPER confused. Oh and sorry if I'm rambling a little. I'm trying to be as descriptive as possible to get this fixed. Thanks in advance.
Alright. I finally got 10.6.4 installed. I ended up reinstalling Snow Leopard from the install disk like originally planned. The problem was that when Apple replaced my hard drive, they preinstalled a Mac Mini version of Snow Leopard on to it which was up to date for that piece of hardware and is why software update didn't catch the update. However, since I have an iMac, it got confused because it was running a Mac Mini version of OS X, thus not letting me install 10.6.4. After I wiped the drive and installed from the disk, I ran software update, and, sure enough, the 10.6.4 update was there. I thought I would just share my findings for everyone out there with the same problem. And thank you baltwo for all of your help. I appreciate it.
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Returned MacBook Pro, bought 24-inch iMac!
Hi all,
Those who have seen my recent posts (mostly in the MacBook Pro forum, but I did place one here too), will know that I have been having one or two problems moving up from my 1.9GHz G5 iMac. However, after quite a big reply to my recent post in this section of the forum, I have decided to return my MacBook Pro and go back to a desktop machine. Today (after having another play with it at the Apple Retail Store in Meadowhall, Sheffield), I was totally sold (and blown away by) the new 24-inch iMac.
I was standing there next to 24-inch iMac, MacBook Pro and MacBook (black and white versions), and even before I'd tried anything out, there was an add playing for the newly updated iPod Nano range on all the machines. I could not believe the display quality on the 24-inch iMac, it was amazing (and seemed even better than the 20" and 17" models that were next to it), when I turned to look at the MacBook Pro, it's display seemed lacking (even though it's still a lot brighter than the old PowerBook G4). Then, I started playing about with some applications, such as Logic. It was then that I saw that as much as I really wanted to be portable (and have a machine I could take around with me), the desktop machine was out perfoming the MBP substantially (thanks to the desktop machine having a 7200RPM drive (always good for music apps) and double the memory).
I turned to the assistant and said "I'll take one" (she then scared me by saying that she didn't know if she had any in stock, as it's become the store's most popular model in the last few weeks). I was lucky, they had one and I left the shop a very happy man indeed! I really cannot recommend the new 24-inch iMac enough. I've been using it at home for a few hours now and I have to say I wish I'd bought this in the first place...oh, and no stuck pixels and no strange humming noise from the display when you turn the brightness down...which I am also very very pleased about.
If you haven't checked out one of these wonderful new iMac's yet, you really owe it to yourself to do so as soon as possible!I bought my 24" the night before the new iMac update. I even read the rumor mills of MacRumors and Appleinsider. So why did I buy it the night before? When I came home from work, my Vista machine which I always keep running 24/7 is frozen, so I rebooted and it crashed again on restart. That was the last straw that broke the camels back. I was just tired of all the wasted reboot, shutdown, and freeze problems that I could have saved with a Mac. The local Apple Store was out of the $799 mac minis which was probably a clue of an impending update, but MacRumors and AppleInsiders usually report depleted inventory in the past but didn't this time which got me thinking it won't happen. Oh well. I guess the $170 restocking fee is a biggie, but I guess I can refund the Applecare to cut the damage down.
Another option I'm thinking is to just return the iMac and get the $799 mini and be done with it. That makes eating the loss of $170 restock fee more digestible.
Third option is to call Support and ask for a refund of the difference. The 24" iMac in the refurb section of the site is listed as 28% off. So that would be nice to get such a big deduction.
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Just bought new 24 inch iMac, what a monster!
Just got back from Apple retail store in Brent Cross near London in the UK with my new 24 inch iMac.
All I can say is BRILLIANT!!. What a stunning machine. I had a 20 inch that I bought just 3 weeks back, but I managed to get rid of it to buy this new one.
Now that I have it on my desk at home I can really appreciate the extra 4 inches, it seems like a lot more than that.
As the Apple retail store is a 1-hour drive for me I insisted on taking it out of the box and booting it up in the store to check it out before the drive home. It was just as well that I did as there was a single stuck (black) pixel in bottom right hand corner. This would not bother most people, but I do a lot of Photoshop work and I can only imagine that I would be constantly trying to airbrush a speck out of a picture, only to discover that it was a stuck/dead pixel.
Anyway, the salesman said no problem and got me another one, which I also checked there and then, second one was perfect.
Anyone who has a 20 inch, get rid of it and buy a 24 inch straight away. They are just awesome.
Even the staff at the Apple retail store were standing around me in absolute awe as I was checking mine out and filling in my personal details, as they did not have a demo unit on display at this time.
Other people were standing around too, a little crowd gathered; I felt like an Apple God for a moment there
The edges are not dark like somebody else mentioned, mine is nice and bright edge-to-edge. In fact is is brighter than my old (3 week old) iMac 20 inch as I have to reduce the brightness on this new 24 inch monster a little bit more to get a nice brightness that I'm used too.
I put in an extra 2 Gig of ram (2 x 1 GB sticks from my old 3-week old iMac 20 inch model), but bought the standard 24 inch model with standard graphics card. Didn't see the point in better graphics card as I don't do gaming, just inDesign and Photoshop on this machine.
This screen is also 1920x1200 so it is TRUE HD for playback of future 1920x1080i or 1920x1080p Bluray or HD DVDs, nice. If you think about it, if you popped to a local store and bought a HD-Ready TV with this resolution it would cost you a lot more than the price of the 24 inch iMac so it's like getting a HD TV with a computer thrown in for free, only cheaper
Had it turned on now for about 3 hours and have been spinning the hard drive a lot as I transfer a lot of old files from external Firewire HD and it is warm near the vents on back/top, nothing excessive though.
The fan is ever so slightly louder than old 20 inch, but again, negligible.
Well I'm off to play some more and test some DVDs etc.
In the meantime they are fantastic machines and I highly recommend them to everyone.
Buy one today, I don't care how, just get one!!!Hey guys, didn't mean to scare anyone with that dead-pixel thing. I've had about 7 Macs over the past 5 years (since moving over from the muddy waters of Windows) and I've NEVER had a single problem. To be honest I was amazed the first 24 inch iMac I pulled out of the box actually had a stuck pixel and so were the staff. One of them tried to 'massage' it away, to no avail. It was hardly noticeable; I'm just a fussy git.
I doubt any of you guys will take delivery of one with a dead/stuck pixel, this is very rare as Apple only use grade-A LCD panels that have a high quality-control-production-line.
Anyway, howwow, you really must get a 24 inch; here's why.
I had 20 inch and spend a lot of time laying out an A4 magazine in Adobe InDesign. I thought my 20 inch Intel Imac was great until I got the 24. Now I can have a full two-page spread across the screen zoomed in 25% bigger than actual size and still have room for my pallets down the left and right hand side. With my old 20 inch iMac I had to collapse or hide certain pallets away or they were over the top of my page on the top/right hand side, which was a pain.
Another advantage of 24 over 20 is that it is much easier copying files from external to internal hard drives and vice-versa, especially when in Column view as you can have 5 columns on each window; plenty. On my 20 inch I could not get anywhere near this and had to move windows around the desktop to get them into the best space; not anymore.
Two of my friends came (almost literally) to see me last night and when they stepped into my study room and clocked the massive 24 inch iMac they both almost creamed their jeans right then and there. They were speechless; they are both windows PC users, or should I say were. The 24 inches was more than enough to convince them; well, they were both ladies They are heading for Apple retail store as I type this to buy one each. Now we all know how bloody hard it is trying to convert Windows users to Mac, the 24 inch iMac has no problem doing that.
I had a large high-def Quicktime movie playing, 6 smaller Quicktime movies playing, a DVD playing with Photobooth open and a bunch of other things, when I hit the exposé button to reveal them all at once it is just amazing on this large screen.
I've also noticed that running Adobe Photoshop and InDesign on this latest 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Due with 2 GB of RAM is a lot faster than my older (3 week old) iMac 20 inch Intel Core Due machine, that extra '2' really pushes Rosetta programmes along the rails a lot faster; it's sort of turbo charged now. This is great for me as I view InDesign stuff in OverView mode (higher res, but slower).
This new machine takes just 31 seconds to boot from a cold start by pressing the power button on the back. Fast or what. Ever watch a Windows user switch on their machine and go have a cuppa coffee whilst they wait
The graphics (and I only have bog-standard card it came with) are brilliant. Pin sharp and I've set up a custom colour calibration for the screen because of Photoshop and InDesign and it is stunning.
Only slight drawback is if you sit too close and are a fast typer, it's like watching tennis as your head looks from right to left as you type across the screen -
Magicjack USB works on older 24 inch iMac but not on newer 27 inch imac, why?
When i call MAGICJACK and APPLE they tell me that there is not enough power in the USB connection behind my 27 inch iMac
My 24 inch iMac works fine with it
any reason why?
i went to the apple store and all the new portables work fine with the MAgicjack
The desktops do not work with the magicjack
not enough power?
HELP ME PLEASEStrange. Try doing a couple of basic resets: First is restart the computer in Safe Mode, this will clear the caches. If no luck there try both a SMC and PRAM resets. The SMC is OK to try several times.
SMC RESET
Shut down the computer.
Unplug the computer's power cord and all peripherals.
Press and hold the power button for 5 seconds.
Release the power button.
Attach the computers power cable.
Press the power button to turn on the computer.
PRAM RESET
Shut down the computer.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Command, Option, P, and R. You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
Turn on the computer.
Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
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Any "STOCK" 24-inch iMac owners?
Has anyone bought a "STOCK" 24-inch iMac. I am planning on buying a Refurbished 24-incher, but I was wondering what are my chances of receiving one with a free unlisted upgrade. I was thinking... most people who can afford to buy this size iMac would most likely upgrade at least one thing (HD, Ram...). All refurbished Macs were bought (and hopefully upgraded) and returned to Apple for some reason right?
Refurb IMac can be "Stock" as most retailers only sell/stock "Stock" IMac including Apple own stores and many of them have a liberal return policy so they could have been returned to Apple simply because the person did not like the IMac or over 1-2 dead pixels.
I personally exchange my IMac 24" Stock 4X and on the fifth exchange I got a perfect screen. The first 4 IMac had between 1-3 dead pixels. I bought my IMac at Best Buy who has no quesiton asked return policy after reading many forums and people complaining about their 24" having between 1-3 dead pixels on them and Apple offical policy does not consider them defective unless they have 5 or more dead pixels. So if you buy from either Apple.com or offical Apple store and get less than 5 dead pixels they will not allow you exchange it without paying a restocking fee as according to them their is nothing wrong with your IMac and it working according to specs which allows upto 5 dead pixels.
I know my local Best Buy did not care about me returning and exchanging my IMac till i got a prefect one as their agreement with Apple is all returned Apple products get sent back to Apple for credit. Fry's J&R Music and Circuit City also have the same agreement with Apple which is why you never see open box Apple computers at any of the above retailers. So the chances of getting dead pixels on a refurb in my option is much higher than a new computer because all the above retailers will allow their customers to exchange their IMac if they have any dead pixels at all on the screen or just simply return them for any other reason what so ever. If you dont mind a couple of a dead pixels then I guess a refurb is for you. -
Hello I have a 24-inch iMac 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with OS X Leopard 10.5.8. Is the Mac I kompaktibel with the new OS X Lion Mountain? Thanks for the answer. E.Monti
Hi,
This is the compatibility list
http://www.apple.com/osx/specs/
if your iMac is mid2007 or newer - yes.
You will need to upgrade to 10.6 (Snow Leopard) first buy DVD from online apple store
Then to 10.7 Lion - buy and download via Store App included in SL
and then 10.8 Mountain Lion upgrade the same steps as Lion -
How can I have my 21.5-inch iMac replaced?
In October last year, I decided to buy a 21.5-inch iMac, but I have had a few problems since receiving it in November last year.
Firstly, about a month after receiving the iMac, my son noticed a grey "mist" forming underneath the glass display. Due to it being beneath the glass, I was unable to clean it. I took it to an Apple Store where they removed the display and explained that it was caused by my partner and myself smoking around it. Since we discover that smoking had caused the "mist", we have had a total ban on smoking in our home, but I have recently noticed that a "mist" seems to be forming underneath the screen again. Only this time I do not know how nor why.
Additionally, we are unable to play DVDs on the iMac. During some DVDs, the DVD Player application becomes unresponsive and displays the "skipping over damaged content" message, and other DVDs are ejected a few seconds after being inserted. Strangely enough, CDs seem to work without any problem. There is no issue with any of the DVDs as they are all in perfect condition, undamaged and work on other DVD players in our home. I have read online that if the iMac is still under warranty, I should be able to have the SuperDrive replaced, and that may fix the problem.
However, since I am still having issues with the reoccurring "mist" under the display, despite having had the problem "fixed" and taking precautions to prevent it from happening again, I would prefer to have the iMac replaced. There is no issue with content on the hard-drive as it is relatively new. I would also like to mention that when we received it, there was a "dead-pixel" in the centre of the display that is still present and does bother me when using it.
I am happy I brought it as it is a very good computer, but these small faults are very annoying and are ruining our experience with owning an iMac. I was wondering if someone could perhaps advise me on what to do? It is still under the one-year limited warranty, and I have an AppleCare Protection Plan, but I have yet to register it incase I have my iMac replaced, or would the AppleCare Protection Plan be transferred to the new iMac if it is replaced?
Thank you.
*Additional Details*
The "mist" is like a greyish tar on the underside of the glass. It extends from the far left corner with a radius of approximately 5-inches. It is located only on the left of the display and is visible when the iMac is switched off, and when the iMac is switched on. When switched on, the "mist" is not as visible, but it dilutes the colours of the pixels, thus making it visible. The coloration of the pixels in the "misted" area appears less saturated, with some small areas appearing almost black-and-white.
This "mist", as I have described it is very much a problem. Over time, it appears to be moving down the display towards the bottom left corner.
Message was edited by: Patricia BywaterAs the anti-smoking people will point out at every turn, that stuff gets into EVERYTHING, and you'll never get rid of all of it. It's like the joke about Indian food, and how you have to burn the house down to get rid of the smell.
The "mist" is likely remnants of the tar from the cigarettes. It doesn't matter if you're smoking outside or 10 miles away, it will get on your hands, in your clothes, you'll even exude it from your skin. It could also be that this is just whatever managed to get into the system before you took it in to be cleaned off the first time. It may take a few more cleanings before it's more or less gone. You will probably never be completely rid of it, but the problem will likely decrease in frequency if you continue to smoke elsewhere.
Personally, I wouldn't push this issue too much. They probably would have been well within reason to just void your warranty when you took it in the first time. They didn't so, take that as a gift. You keep pushing the replacement idea, you may find you run into someone who has no problem just saying that you've damaged the system, and refuse to service it.
Now, the DVD thing could also be a result of you having smoked in the house. That tar and other garbage in cigarettes is just as bad for electronics as it is your lungs. It will have a way of coating, and sticking, to things where you don't want it coating or sticking. Like the lens that focuses the laser to read DVDs. That has to be very precisely calibrated for it to work. Anything that messes with the focusing of that laser is not good.
However, since you have other devices that work, and presumably have been exposed to the environment of your home for far longer, you probably just have a bad drive, and you can get that replaced. You can also ask them nicely to clean off the glass again since they have to take it off to replace the drive. But I would not take my chances if they give you any kind of resistance to that idea. You can go on all you want about how unfair you think it is, but unless you're willing to take it to court, where your odds of success are probably pretty low... Unfair or not, that's how it is.
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