First Time Builder! Evaluate My Choices?

Hello everyone,
I would just like to say that this forum has been an AMAZING place to learn about computers and video editing. I am new to everything, and it is very overwhelming, but I appreciate the posts that attempt to decipher the complexities of building a computer. Thank you, everyone.
I've made a pretty lazy attempt at choosing parts for my own build. I do not have too much money for the hardware ($1500 before taxes, CDN and not including peripherals), so my focus is buying the essentials and upgrading later. Is there anything I can remove or downgrade from the current options I have listed below? I plan on using this computer for editing my t2i/550D footage in Premiere Pro and After Effects CS5.
FROM NEWEGG.CA:
CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$89.98
MOTHERBOARD: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
$219.99
VIDEO CARD: MSI N460GTX CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$184.99
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible $104.99
CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield
3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
$279.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9T-12GBRL
$132.49
OS/PROGRAMS DRIVE: G.SKILL Phoenix Series FM-25S2S-60GBP1 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$130.00
FILES DRIVE: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
(x 2) $175.98
DVD BURNER: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
$20.99
Subtotal:$1,339.40 CDN
(Lacking Windows 7 Pro, Monitor(s), but I will deal with those later)
Thanks!

Gigabyte motherboard, i7-950 CPU, overclock -> absolutely!
Bumping it up to 3.6 or 3.7GHz should not be too dificult and the gains for Premiere Pro CS5 are definitely there; check out the PPBM5 benchmark scores (PPBM5.com) and look at similar CPUs running at different clock speeds. Also, with Intel's current CPUs the chip slows way down until the work gets tough and then the clock speed raises to get the work done more quickly.
Jim

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First time building Comp problem MS-6390

Hey its my first time building a computer and i need help. I got everythin working , Led , fans , lights , and all but it wont boot anything up just a black screen.
Im useing
MS-6390 KM266 Motherbaord
Radeon 9200 SE
Kbytes DDR PC 2700 333MHZ 256 MB ram stick
450 W Power Supply
Sound Blaster PCI Sound Card
AMD 1700+ Socket A
Maxtors 120 GB HD @ 7200 RPM
everythin is plugged in but just a black screen boots up can anyone help me?

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Originally posted by Richard T
This board does have the 4-pin ATX power socket.
First thing is to remove all unessential add-ons... specifically the sound board and videocard.
Are you getting a beeps at all?
Beeps can be de-coded at the BIOS manufactures website and should lead you to the problem.
Next I'd start working back removing the more essential items... start with CD-ROMs, DVD drives and floppy drives then HDD, then RAM.
All cables need to be double and triple checked for securness. Poorly seated video card is a common culprit.
Final possibility is you may have a faulty or have fried your cpu... I did once.
Hey thats not bad of an idea maybe it will work and our systems are almost the same hehe so i guess ill try it. =P

First time build questions

I am quite a way through my first build - quite time consuming but a good learning curve. I have a few questions which I hope you could help me with.
MSI MS-7030 nForce 3 K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64bit 3000
Corsair (VS1GBKIT400) 1024MB (2 x 512MB Matched Pair), DDR400 / PC3200 non-ECC, Unbuffered, CL2.5
Sapphire 9600XT 256mb
LG 1710 B 17"LCD Monitor (DVI)
Aopen cd-rw 32 x 12 x 48
DVD Player Lite-on 16 x 48
Mitsumi 7-in-1 Floppy Drive / Media Drive
Windows 2000 Pro or Windows 2000 Server
Microsoft PS2 Internet Keyboard
Microsoft Optical mouse
Tablet Wacom Graphire 2
Wireless ADSL Router (wired to desktop) D-Link DSL 604
Bios - The basic building tips mentions going into bios before loading Windows. Have not changed much in my bios except boot order. My Seagate Sata 160gb was detected fine as was everything else except a cd drive where the cable had pulled out on the MOB.
Should I change other settings in the bios before installing Windows or later. And if so which are the key settings to change and how do I work out what to change them to? (I am a bit green on bios) I looked at the link breaking through the bios barrier but other than reading every single item... Not sure where to start.
I also flashed the bios to the latest version - should I have done this? Or waited till later?
Windows I am using quite old versions of Windows 2000 Professional and Windows 2000 Server. In both cases including before flashing the bios the setup of devices phase seems to freeze, the blue bar does not move. If I reboot setup quickly moves to where it left off, moves a bit further then freezes again. If I repeat reboot about 4 or 5 times I eventually get Windows working OK.
But the last time I did this I installed Windows 2000 Server over the top of Windows 2000 Pro. Not sure this was a good idea as the MSI drivers won't load. The install program opens and does not seem to do anything.
I am inclined to format the os area of the drive and install Windows again. One of my colleagues suggested that using Windows XP Professional might resolve the problem of Windows 2000 appearing to hang when installing.
Reference material I have read a couple of Build Your Own books before starting this build but found they were a bit light on detail and out of date. There is a lot of helpful information on the Interet but I think I could do with something which would improve my knowledge. Would the latest edition of Upgrading and Repairing PCs by Scott Mueller be a good choice? How well does it cover bios for example which I understand only superficially or would I be better (poorer financially) buying individual books on different subjects e.g. "Breaking through the Bios barrier" by Adrian Wong.
I don't plan to build PC's on a regular basis but would like to understand more than I do at present.

Thanks for all the replies.
I will take the advice on bios and leave well alone at this stage.
Will reformat tonight and install Windows XP and see how it goes.
Couple of immediate questions. On my current PC I have 4 different boots but only really use one. My current PC has Windows 2000 Pro with 2gb, 20 gb for apps and the balance of the 80 gb drive for data. Also an 8gb drive which I hardly ever use.
Current plan on my new PC is to initially use the 160gb SATA as 20 gb combined partition for OS and apps and the balance for data. Or are there really benefits for keeping the operating system separate from apps? Using Partititon Magic fast to set up although currently it is only seeing 132 GB although the bios is correctly reporting 160GB. Presumably this is something I need to adjust in Windows once fully installed.
My 80gb drive has IBM ontrack overlay software. I managed to transfer everything to the new drive using PcAnywhere via the router. Which was great as the first time I have got two machines to talk to each other via the ADSL Router. (This was a great relief as I could not PcAnywhere to work via a serial cable!)
My inital intention was to use the 80GB as the OS / Apps drive but based on the other problems I have had, now decided to build and use the system based on a single 160 SATA drive first then when I am sure it is stable go to plan B with using the 80GB IDE drive as the Windows and Apps drive. I then need to reformat the 80GB drive as it currently has IBM Ontrack overlay software because my previous PC bios could not see 80GB otherwise. Considering at that stage installing Windows 64 bit beta on the 160GB drive.
I don't think I need Raid at this stage although I have a little bit of experience as my SQL Server has two Raid drives (0?) plus a hot swop drive stored in our fire proof safe.
I use AVG free antivirus and have the latest version ready to install.
Regarding firewall - confused as to what is required. Was under the impression that my ADSL Router has a hardware firewall. Also the motherboard has a firewall as well doesn't it? Do I also need a software firewall? There is a free one recommended on the AVG (Grisoft site)
By the way. I was a bit apprehensive when doing the build and took hours over it being very careful to read and follow the steps in motherboard, CPU and case (Antec Sonata) manuals step by step - a very slow process. All the cables in the case looked very intimidating at first.
The whole thing is extremely straightforward and towards the end everything became very logical. All the parts I used seem extremely well designed and easy to use. The only part where I had doubts was pushing down the plastic lever on the AMD retail heat sink. I wondered whether I had understood it correctly and whether it was going to snap.

First time build check, with some questions

After much back & forth, I’m about to take the plunge and do my own build. It seems similar to many others here have done, and is pretty close to the VideoGuys DIY build, but it’s my first time and I do have a few questions, so I thought I’d post and get comments. Here are my specs:
Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Unbeatable Gaming Case
ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with USB BIOS
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K
EVGA 04G-P4-2673-KR GeForce GTX 670 Superclocked+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular PSU
Intel BXRTS2011LC Liquid-cooled Thermal Solution For the LGA2011 Socket
VANTEC 2+1 FireWire 800/400 PCIe Combo Host Card Model UGT-FW210 (Ti chipset)
1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drives (media drive)
1 Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA 3.0 (Boot drive)
1 Hitachi 7200rpm 1 TB SATA 3.0 (renders and exports)
64 GBof Crucial RAM - 8GB 240-pin DIMM DDR3 PC3-12800
• CL=11 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR3-1600 • 1.35V • 1024Meg x 64 •
I plan on overclocking using the ASUS auto overclock feature. From what I’ve read 4.3 seems to be a reliable speed to shoot for. The videos I’ve watched on the auto overclocking with the UEFI interface look straightforward.
I’m going to use the 670 to power 2 editing monitors via DVI, and an ASUS P24A6 via HDMI as a client monitor.
For the foreseeable future, I’ll be editing AVCHD footage. Don’t do much motion gfx work, mainly cuts & dissolves, with a fair amount of color correction & grading applied. How does this system look to do with this configuration with this workflow?
Also, any feedback on cooling appreciated. It looks like the Noctura has some compatibility issues with this board fully populated with Crucial RAM, so I’m going with the Intel liquid cooler, which looks easy to install and was recommended by ADK. With this case and this cooler, will I be good or is there any other type of cooling I should add to cool the RAM or the PSU?
Anything else I’m missing? Thanks much to all who post here. Special thanks to ADK, their participation here is invaluable and the advice they gave me was much appreciated. Were this system my main source of income, I’d buy from them for sure.

Stu,
Looks like you have done a lot of work for this to be your first pass here as a build list; there is a lot more that looks right than wrong.
Regarding how is this system for your workflow? This PC would certainly do what you want it to do.
Regarding cooling, RAM and PSU will be fine.
Regarding is anything missing, yes a Blu-ray burner.
You did not state whether you want to A) build this and leave it alone for years, or B) make some upgrades in the future. If B), I only have a suggestion for your RAM choice. If A), I do have some suggested tweaks to how you spend your budget for this build.
You've heard it here before, but it is so true that Adobe has mastered the ability to tax just about all of your PC components (cpu, RAM, bus, drives, and video card) with Premiere Pro CS5 and above in order to make HD editing fast and fun. This makes balance important and in some ways a system is only as strong as its weakest link.
Your current plans strike me as:
CPU = A+, RAM = A+++ on paper, but possibly a bad idea, Drives = B-, GPU = A-.
My only strong suggestion is to go for 32GB of 1600 RAM. You want to do a moderately strong OC on the CPU and the memory controller of the 3930k is not strong enough to pull this off.
Minor suggestions: A) more drives - go for at least one 2x1TB RAID 0 array for media, projects, and scratch (adding one more drive). B) SSD for boot - for spending as much as you are here, I think your build deserves a 128GB SSD for the boot/OS drive - no this will not help after Premiere Pro has started and you are editing, but it will make the PC faster for lots of other things that most users do.
Regards,
Jim

First Time Build Help.

Helll and I am happy to be here. I just built my first computer using the X58 Platinum. The problem is that when I turn it on the computer
will run for like a minute, turn off for like 5 seconds, and then turn itself on again. It does this until I just turn it off and unplug it. I have
connected everthing and checked them according to all the manufactures' direction. It runs fine with no error beeps,no smoking, no nothing.
I don't have a clue what to do next except take it down to Micro Center where I bought all the parts and let them figure it out,but there
will be no feeling of accomplishment for me. Here is what I have built.
Antec TwelveHundred case.
Intel i7 Processor.
750 watt power supply.
Baracuda 1.5 TB Sata hardrive.
Sony Blu Ray/DVD/CD Rom.
Diamond Radeon 4870 1 Gigabyte Graphics Card.
3 0CZG Triple Channel 2GB Memory cards 1600
I have double and triple checked every plug and connection. The Processor and fan is secured and powered. Nothing gets hot or overheated.
I plug my monitor into the graphic card hoping to see the BIOS screen but no Bios images on screen. I am stumped now and can't think of
anything else I can do. Don't have an OS on the new hardrive yet,but that was going to be after I viewed and setup whatever in the Bios.
Any suggestions or tips.

Quote from: kenkenni on 27-March-09, 01:24:51
Helll and I am happy to be here. I just built my first computer using the X58 Platinum. The problem is that when I turn it on the computer
will run for like a minute, turn off for like 5 seconds, and then turn itself on again. It does this until I just turn it off and unplug it. I have
connected everthing and checked them according to all the manufactures' direction. It runs fine with no error beeps,no smoking, no nothing.
I don't have a clue what to do next except take it down to Micro Center where I bought all the parts and let them figure it out,but there
will be no feeling of accomplishment for me. Here is what I have built.
Antec TwelveHundred case.
Intel i7 Processor.
750 watt power supply.
Baracuda 1.5 TB Sata hardrive.
Sony Blu Ray/DVD/CD Rom.
Diamond Radeon 4870 1 Gigabyte Graphics Card.
3 0CZG Triple Channel 2GB Memory cards 1600
I have double and triple checked every plug and connection. The Processor and fan is secured and powered. Nothing gets hot or overheated.
I plug my monitor into the graphic card hoping to see the BIOS screen but no Bios images on screen. I am stumped now and can't think of
anything else I can do. Don't have an OS on the new hardrive yet,but that was going to be after I viewed and setup whatever in the Bios.
Any suggestions or tips.
If you look else where on this forum you'll see a post from me asking the same thing as you did. However, the times on your double power up are way longer than mine. My double power up is only about 4 to 5 seconds total. We also have nearly identical hardware. Just last night I tried the overclock switch and mysteriously my double power up went away. If my temps stay stable and all continues to be well I'm staying with the overclock. I have no idea if using your overclock switch will fix your double power up, but based on our hardware similarity I'd say it's worth a try. It worked for me!

First time build, problems detecting SATA

I just got done putting together my first build, everything went well, until I attempted to boot up, I can get into the bios and the mobo beeps once, but when I'm in the bios there are no SATA detected the bios is set on IDE and toggling between all the settings is not working no dvd, and no hardrives show up. They all have power(i can hear the hard drives spin up and the dvd drive will eject)
I've attempted swapping cables and ports galore, but to no avail.
I'm out of ideas, anyone have any tips?
Also If it helps, I pulled the drives and dvd drive out of my last computer and they were working just fine.
Part list permalink / Part price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($308.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-B10-212P-G1 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z68MA-ED55 (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($157.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1GB Video Card ($228.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Raidmax 730W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (64-bit) ($91.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $957.46
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated 2011-10-01 17:50 EDT-0400)
Hard drive(s) : Barracuda 1tb / Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 1TB 7200RPM SATA II
DVD drive : Dell?
Thanks
Edit: Also Here are some photos of whats going on, in case that helps diagnose the problem.
http://imgur.com/a/yO00s#aTsnU

Quote from: HU16E on 03-October-11, 06:09:20
Give this a try. OS HDD in SATA 1 port, 2nd HDD in SATA port 2. ODD & front case can be left as is. What controller mode was the OS installed with in the other system? With a new system, it is almost never a smooth transition with a HDD that has a previous OS on it. All the chipset drivers & other drivers will be wrong for the new system. A new fresh install is always the only sure-fire way to go.
This is what i started with, the original HD is IDE, but even still, the SATA ports wont register ANYthing, it's like the connection is broke.. I'm getting in touch with them through customer support. Hopefully they will be able to help / replace the board. I posted on some other forums and they all led back to the motherboard being faulty. I even ripped everything back out of the case and laid the board on cardboard, and it was the same thing.
I appreciate your help.

Please Help!! First time builder needs help figuring out components for $2000 machine

     Hello everyone I know this question comes up alot, but after reading through much of it I still need a little help. I just graduated college, doing production, and want to do editing professionally. Learned on Final Cut but as I have used Pro for the last year on my own (on a HP HDX 16t, I know its horrible), I have decided to go with CS6 and learn everything there is. I don't have the budget for a warrior computer but at least I would like to get something that will 1)allow me to learn and develop using Pro, AE, and PS. and a little 4D in the future 2) allow me to gradually up grade as I become a professional and demands increase. Due to me current limitations, my independant projects have been for youtube exporting in FLV. (rendering a 3 min clip takes about 30-40 mins... so sad haha)
     I have about $2000 USD (not including the monitor) to invest in this. Before this week I have had no prior knowledge of computer building, I've learned a great deal from this forum, and I am ready to build this bad boy. here are my questions and some of the possible components ...
CPU - I'm going with intel i7. My question here is whether the 3930k hexa is really that much better      than the 4770k quad. Is this a no brainer must go with 3930? I do plan to OC.
MoBo - I have looked at some many versions of this, can I do the p9x79 pro along with the 3930k and      still stay under $2000? is it worth it to do so and get a gpu thats less expensive?
GPU - I've read a ton of forum posts in which many of you guys have said that in certain situations the      gtx 680 is over kill or not needed, and that something like the gtx 650 ti would do just fine.
     - If so how many Gbs?
     - should I lower the CPU or MoBo for a better GPU?
Drives - From all I gather I think the 128gb 840 pro is a given so check! I will get at least 2 WD      black 1 TB hhd. This seems to be a standard no matter what Mobo/CPU combo I go with, right?
                              Now the trickiest part for me is what combination of (see below) keeps me at $2000
                                   - 32gbs ram (to start, p9x79 gives me the option to get more later)
                                   - Case that has good air flow, a lot of bays
                                   - Power supply
                                   - Liquid Cooling (I do need liquid cooling if I plan to OC a 3930k right?)
                                   - Blu ray burner
This my delima.I'm still not sure what truly effects Pro and AE the most. Even after looking at the balance graphs, should I go with the Hexa, and better MoBo no matter what, or scale it down a little for a better GPU or memory? Also going into professional editing, what kind of space should I want in a case and MoBo? Besides USB 3.0 what else should I consider? What would I use the pci slots for? What peripherals are a standard that I need if not now definitely in the future?
Thank you in advance I know I am a complete novice, I guess we all started somewhere and this is my start. I could really use the help.
Appreciatively,
Jay

I still haven't built it (current computer is working) but "someday" I plan to build a new computer... this is my current list... does not include software
Intel i7 3930k CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492
CPU Cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
Motherboard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121552
32Gig Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231507
A note from Harm on X79 Ram - http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1089842
Full Tower Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225
This case comes with 4 fans, so you do not have to buy any optional case fans
1000w Power Supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171056
500Gig Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
-or SSD for boot drive
500Gig Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
1Terabyte Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
1Terabyte Drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
GTX670 2Gig - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130782
Keyboard & Mouse - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109232
Sata DVD Writer - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106369
BluRay writer if you want to write BluRay discs

975x pue v2, MB Issue, OS slow, first time build

Hello Everybody,
Ok I am having a problem like so many others I have tried searching for the answers but with no success, :(
now for the Specs.
System Specs
PSU – Thermaltake W0106RU 700W
CPU - Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775
Motherboard - MSI 975X Platinum V.2 LGA
Ram - OCZ Platinum Revision 2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Model OCZ2P800R22GK
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JS 200GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
CD/DVD - LG 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with Light Scribe Black IDE Model GSA-H22L
Bios Specs
Bios Ver. W7246IMS V 7.40
The bios is all defaults except for the follow
Speedstep tech – Disabled
Boot Sequence – CD-ROM, USB-FDD, Hard Disk, Disabled
JMB361 MODE – Disabled
SATA Mode – AHCI
CPU – 266MHz v.1.25
RAM – 800MHz v2.0 – set to in Bios 4, 4, 4, 15
Spread spectrum – Disabled
System Setup
IDE 1 – My CD-Rom Drive
SATA SLOT 4 – NONE
SATA SLOT 3 – Hard Drive
SATA SLOT 2 – NONE
SATA SLOT 1 – Hard Drive
Windows Vista Installed in Slot 1
Storage drive in Slot 3
Only windows is installed and the Intel INF drivers on the driver disk.
Ok now for my problem
The vista install took all day to install - stared at 10:00AM finished 5.00PM
On boot up takes about 3 - 5 minutes to see desktop.
Vista runs slower than a snail does when I click control panel it takes about a minute to show the icons.
When I click on icon it looks like nothing happened if I click again I get the working in the background icon “arrow and circle” and if I do it one more time I get the fully busy icon “full circle” if to much is done vista stop and after a while do a restart of the system
Programs get a not responding error while waiting, and fix themselves once info becomes available
Think of it as running a 486 or even a 386 that’s slow and I think in some cases they faster then my system and this is happing to the whole operating system no mater what I click on.

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Jack the Newbie
no i did not do it " not sure how to slipstream never did it " . where can i get them and can i still load windows install them. however i did look in to the device manager and see the controller in there for AHCI " took about 5 minutes to reach
I suggest you start from scratch: Remove A/C power plug from PSU, hit power-on button a few times to drain capacitors and clear CMOS.
After that, reconfigure BIOS-options. Set Intel SATA controller to AHCI-mode and also enable Force Gen II in SATA speed settings.
If that doesn't change anything, I would try to re-install Vista. Somewhere at the beginning of the Vista Install procedure you will get a chance to load additional drivers. I think it was on this screen:
Drivers can be found here:
http://asia.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=267
Look for Intel ICH7R/ICH8R SATA RAID Driver (For floppy driver) in the list. You won't need a floppy though, when you are using Vista. An USB Flash Drive should be fine.
After you are done setting up Vista, make sure you properly install all necessary drivers.
In what I said before I am assuming that you are having a mere driver problem. This could be the reason for your troubles but it doesn't have to be the only possible explanation.
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i do have sangung ram DDR2 533MHZ 4x512
Check your memory modules with memtest86 to make sure they are working properly:
--> http://www.memtest.org/download/1.70/memtest86+-1.70.iso.zip
Also try booting your system with one or two modules only.
Keep us posted about your progress!

Trials and Tribulations of a First Time MSI Builder

I'll try to keep this short and sweet (IMPOSSIBLE!), but hopefully this may make sense to some of you out there who have sought and found solice here on the MSI boards....
First off....I'm a first-time MSI MB user.....my system specs are as follows:
Voyeurmods Verge X case
MGE Vigor 500 PS
Athlon 64 2800
MSI K8T Neo FSRII
1 gig Kingston 400DDR (KVR400X64)
1- 80 gig Barracuda SATA
Thermalright SLK948U and TT UFO fan
Aopen DVD/CDR combo drive
TT Hardcano 12
Enermax 6 fan controller
Asus 9800xt
Audigy Platinum
and assorted other fans, belts, and whistles......
Now...the story and the point behind this post:
I have only built one other comp....2.4 Pentium Platform......nice, stable rig.....a few extra goodies to qualify it as a "semi-mod"...but it was a great system to cut my teeth on, and in all fairness, I had a lot of extra help with cables/bios/cpu install, etc. I wouldnt call it a "from-scratch" set up...Never one to NOT jump into the deep end of the pool, I decided to move up a bit and try a new build from scratch....I wanted a decent rig...strictly gaming......as close to state of the art as my budget would allow, but I was prepared to make exceptions......
My original MB of choice once I settled on an Athlon 64 was the Abit KV8. It was a great-looking MB; I thought the OATES cooling system was a significant upgrade from a lot of others...and I liked their "UGURU" system management tool...unfortunately, the Abit MB is now sitting in a trash bin....I have to say that, all emotion aside, Abit wont be seeing my cash any time in the future.....to call the OATES system a total failure would be an understatement...only AFTER I started reading the Abit boards did I realize that virtually every builder was removing the plastic OATES shroud and tossing it away.......the screw alignment in the OATES portion of the board, coupled with almost any aftermarket HS/fan alignment warps the board slightly and doesnt allow multiple sticks of memory to sit properly in the slots......if you folks think thats a joke, just check out the Abit forums.....I'd say that right now, the negative reviews of the KV8 boards are surpassing the "positive" reviews by a ratio of 2 or 3 to 1. And then try RMA'ing the board once its warped!
Now granted, the Thermalright SLK puts a hell of a stress load on the CPU section of the MB through sheer weight alone, but the MSI board, TO ME, seems to be a bit "beefier"....a tad thicker in construction. I dunno...maybe its the layout, or weight distribution. But I digress and this was "supposed" to be short and sweet....
Many hours of bareboning the build with the Abit board resulted in me switching manufacturers and trying MSI. Everything I tried....all the tech support....all the forums and Abit messageboards.....litterally swapping out every piece of equipment....nothing got that Abit board to boot up. I was getting error messages that werent even acknowledged by the manufacturer! Folks, you have NO idea how much better a product MSI is putting out compared to Abit.
For starters.....the board sits damned near perfectly on the standoffs.....one does NOT have to remove the video card to get at the memory slots (the Abit board requires MOST if not all video cards to be removed if swapping memory in slot 1)...the layout of the SATA and IDE brackets seemed a bit more ergonamically proficient on the MSI board.....about the only thing that appealed to me (initially)more on the Abit board was an "on board" LCD error check system that seemed to be a bit easier to use than the MSI D Bracket system. I say "seemed to be", but again, going back to basic board layout and design, the LCD's are virtually covered by the IDE cables that have to sit over the LCD's because of their close proximity to each other. Nice idea. Poorly executed.
So....if any of you first-timers have concerns about choosing the MSI board, start breathing easier.....once I switched boards, and used the exact same components as my first try with the Abit board, the K8T Neo started up first time out of the box.....everything about this board (knock wood), so far, has been great, and I also have to say that the help that all of you here dish out has made this experience nothing short of amazing.
Jocko, whoever the hell you are, you are my new Obi Wan Kenobi! Your advice in a few threads to newbies like myself was so damned "dead-on" ....so accurate...its like you know these boards and systems from the circuit on up! And I have to thank you right now for helping me even though we never exchanged emails or posts......many, many, many thanks!
Also, Mike...your thread for first-timers......it should be part of the itinerary for ALL newbies. Thanks for taking the time to share....
Finally...some additional thoughts that may help others ( or may not):
1. Configuring the BIOS is, to me anyway, always a bit scary. I like pointing and clicking...I hate pressing enter and using arrow keys...there are just too many damned choices and I'll always wonder if I made the right ones......scan back a few threads and search out any of Jocko's advice regarding the initial load of Windows and SATA drives...he makes this part easy. Also, there are several websites that give advice on optimum BIOS configs....you can find many links here on these forums.
2. If any of you want custom modded cases at decent pricing, dont be afraid to use Voyeurmods. Everything about Brian and his crew is top notch.....the customer service....the shipping.....the Verge X case is simply perfection.....I cant say enough nice things about them.
3. Kingston memory can be purchased directly from their USA website at fairly discounted pricing from just about anyone else on the web.....I paid $139.00 for 2 512 sticks of 400 DDR(not per stick...$139.00 total) a while back...pricing changes weekly so if you like Kingston product, check them weekly for specials...so far it has worked perfectly in my rig, and because you are buying direct, the warranty is as good as it gets.
4. The Thermalright SLK 948 is one hell of a heatsink, and the TT UFO fan that sits on top of it makes for one nice combo! My CPU refuses to overheat under load, and I cant say enough about how easy it was to install on the board. If any of you want a superb aftermarket product this does the trick nicely.
5. Any idea why the 2 power slots on the MSI MB are on opposite sides of the board? That was the one glitch I found on these boards that Abit did right...place the 2 power connections side by side for better cable management.
6. If on the first power up the entire system stays dark, chances are it AINT a bad Power supply...more than likely its front panel headers in the wrong slots..check your wiring. If there is just a slight glimpse of power and it cuts out immediately, its almost assuredly wrong wiring....the PS is shorting itself out.
7. On the HOT topic of power supplies....my MGE has 20 amps on the 12 volt line...I know, I know....its barely adequate to some of you....but I have to say this in as nice a way as possible: folks, it AINT always the power supply when a problem develops. I have read countless.....COUNTLESS posts/threads on both Board forums where a problem is "diagnosed" as being a crappy power supply. Some folks wont even discuss any other issue until a different PS is installed. The sad/funny thing is....if you read back through the threads here, as well as the Abit boards, I'd say 90% of the solutions to the problems didnt end up being the PS at all! Its more like: 30% user error....20% memory...10% CMOS clearing....20% component failure(including MB)....10% CPU seating.....10% PS.
8. Do....regardless of how much extra work is involved here....DO utilize a barebones build BEFORE you install in the case and hook up all the peripherals.....it cuts out SO many potential problems before they happen, and just makes so damned much sense. I know its extra effort, but if youre a first timer, and you want that first boot to take place; you want that main screen once you press "DELETE", this is the way to go.
9. Clearing CMOS. LOL! Yup......oh the errors of first- timers like myself!!!!!! Dont even bother posting here until you make sure you cleared the CMOS properly, and if youre not sure how, dont be afraid to ask stupid questions like I did here.
10. Dont be afraid to use cardboard as your anti-static material under a barebones...it works well...costs nothing...and your only potential issue is heat build up if your CPU freaks out.
11. DONT overuse your Artic Silver 5 on the CPU.....forget all the advice about "spreading out evenly" a thin layer of silver all over the CPU cover.....use the "grain of rice" method in the center.....a very small amount spreads out like you cant imagine! After I removed the HS from the CPU on the Abit board, I couldnt believe how thoroughly well the paste had spread over the CPU cover. If I had used more, or spread it out, the TR SLK would have forced it well over the sides of the CPU.
12. DONT be afraid of the BIOS. The MSI manual actually does a pretty decent job of guiding one through the initial set up, and YES...do NOT forget to press F10 to save all your changes.....it took me a couple of tries to make sure the changes "took".
13. DONT panic if you miss the F6 move on Windows install for SATA drivers.....it seems that on XP home, pressing F6 when prompted to made no difference.....30 seconds later the "add 3rd party drivers" screen comes up anyway.....for reference sake, my total Windows XP install took 16 minutes from start to finish.
14. Loading the VIA SATA drivers at that point in Windows is tricky for one very simple reason: the floppy doesnt have any "scroll down" arrows for multiple driver install. They are hidden UNDER the initial screen....press "S" when prompted for the initial driver....and then scroll down under the first batch to find the second one...highlight it and press "S"....dont panic if the screen doesnt change immediately...it "feels" like Windows lags a bit but the screen DOES change.
15. SATA cables dont always "sit" snugly in Barracuda drives...I tried 3 different cables from legit manufacturers in 2 different Seagates....they all fit...they all work...but just a tiny amount of pressure unseats them....use caution and try to keep any other cables from pressing OVER the SATA near the HD.
16. Bench test your system for at least 24 hours of continuous useage before you move it or do anything else with it......it just makes sense to see if anything shorts out or heats up......
Feel Free to email me ([email protected]) if you have any questions or want any ideas.....MSI has made my first real build a blast!
JJ

Hi
Welcome, glad you got some benefit from the threads, it all so easy once you've done it a few times, aint it.
Glad your going well, now you can help others
you could also join the folding team and help medical research.
enjoy
cheers
jocko

Building a system for the first time

I recently posted a few weeks back about buying a system from either Dell or HP http://forums.adobe.com/thread/732545?tstart=0. I quickly learned that those systems were not going to fit my need based on my budget. So, I decided after researching components that I will build a computer by hand for the first time. I am still operating on a budget of around $1000, but I'm giving the budget a bit of flexibility so I don't limit my options. I am a hobbyist who only has experience using Power Director on my laptop, but I had a lot of fun editing for the first time and I want to step up my game. With the new system, I plan to use adobe premiere cs5 and after effects. I will capture my video from either an HD Helmet cam or HD flip format is MPEG-4 AVC/H.264. So where I need help is selecting the right things to optimize my performance. The following is a list of items I'm looking with their prices. Please help me decide what will be right for me. Open to any combo of suggestions or comments. Thanks!
Processor
Intel i7 930 $200 microcenter
Intel i7 950 $230 microcenter
I don't know if I want overclock yet, but it sounds like a good idea. $30 for the upgrade to the i7 950 seems pretty good. ro do I use the money elsewhere?
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R $210
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423
Seems like a good mobo. Are there any features that this board lacks that I should look for in another board? Also, newegg offers significant deals on "open box" products. Is this a good way to go?
Ram
I have a few questions for this selection. I've currently budgeted approximately $250 for ram. I'm looking at going with 12GB. I certainly don't have the budget for 24GB, but what about 16GB?
Do I look for 1333 or 1600? 2GB or 4GB sticks? Would I be fine if I bought say 2 packs of 6GB ram, both same manufacturer and same type or would I want to buy 1 pack of 12GB?
GPU
Nvidia Geforce gtx 460 1GB $220
Is it worth it to go to the 470? I know it's a better card but being a budget is really worth the upgrade or can I get away with a 460?
Any recomendations for a 460 as there are many in the same price range?
Drives
I see these drives priced in the $55 range which would leave at around $220 for the lot of em
These are the drives I'm looking at as they are highly recommended on this board:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3
WD Caviar Black
Right now, I plan to buy 4 drives. Do I want 4 of the exact same? or say 1 cavier black for os/ programs and 3 samsung f3 for pagefile/scratch/renders? Can I also get a brief description of what these are too? Also, could have a 500gb for os/programs and 1tb for the rest or would it be advisable for 1tb for all? or 500gb for all?
I don't think I can do a raid setup based on my budget, but I saw this as an option on the thread for storage rules is to use the on-board IHCR or Marvell chip. I don't know really anything about this, but what would the price be to explore this option?
Case
Cooler Master Storm Scout $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196
I picked this case for a few reasons. I seem move about every 6 months so the handles on top would be very useful, and it seems to have good cooling. I know a full size case is recommended, but they seem to be significantly more.
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12P SE2 120mm SSO CPU Cooler $75
Everywhere I look this cooler seems to get great reviews. I figure it could be a good idea to get a good cooler if I get a mid-tower case.
The only other option I can think of for case/cooling is to combine the budgeted price for both and look at different options like a full size case with a less quality cooler. Is this a better option
PSU
Looking into an 850 W power supply. I figure to budget $80 towards as I've seen a few in that range
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817517003
so would something like this work?
Final Thoughts
So, when you add it all up its about $1350. First question, how does this look overall? Nothing I've chosen is obviously overkill, but is there anything I can afford to go cheaper on? or anything I should invest more into?
Thanks again to everyone for the help. The resources, info and people on this forum have just been awesome.

Seems like we are planning very similar PCs. My build is going to be for: amateur video editing including animation mainly with CS5, application design and coding mainly with MS Visual Studio 2008, HTPC (until I build a cheap dedicated unit for the TV), general family computing. I am new to this stuff, but can at least share some pricing and my decision making process so far.
Here is what I have selected so far regarding the parts:
MotherBoard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R x58
Seems like one of the lower cost x58 MBs and has some decent reviews. Wait for a sale, you should be able to find this for around $180.00. That is how much I got it for from New Egg (straight up with savings code no rebate), should be arriving on my doorstep tomorrow. Also, I think Fry's has it now for $170.00 in store, but that includes a $20.00 rebate and tax.
PowerSupply: Corsair TX650W
Some might think this is on the low side. On the other hand, I have gotten other conflicting advice, stating that many people overestimate their actual power needs. So who knows. I have read that a PSU works more efficient when it is matched to the power needs - meaning that a 1000w PSU that is generally seeing 200w usage might not be so efficient. Anyway, I got the PSU for $50.00 from New Egg (with rebate), and it has a good reputation, so we will see how it goes.
Graphics Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
I was planning on a lower cost card, but then noticed this card for sale over the weekend for $178.00 (with rebate), so I ordered one. I have read the GTX460 has reasonable power requirements, and can be made to take advantage of CUDA/Mercury with CS5 (although haven't done much research into that). This particular version based on reviews, seems fairly quite with the twin fans. It's possible I overspent a bit on this card considering my needs, time will tell.
Here is what I am planning to purchase:
CPU: i7 930
I am fortunate to live near a Fry's and MicroCenter ($200.00). From reading the forum, seems like this is generally the lowest CPU folks go in terms of building an editing machine. I understand the argument that for only $30.00 more, one can upgrade to the i7 950. On the other hand, that argument could be made for many of the components, and then before you know it, a little extra here and there, and the budget is shot:) So I am planning to draw the line at the 930.
Here are my undecided’s:
Memory
I am up in the air between 6or12gig/module compatibility/cost. But one thing for you to keep in mind, is the official memory certified for the motherboard you select. For the Gigabyte motherboard, I missed out on a recent RAM deal, because the RAM was not officially certified for the board. Some people tell me this is important, while others say "RAM is RAM" and no big deal. Something to consider.
HardDrives
Same as you, considering the Samsung Spinpoint F3. Good prices now at MicroCenter on the 16MB cache models in 500 and 1TB sizes. I just don't know if larger cache sizes are important or not, since they are also offered in 32MB and higher.
Anyway, good luck with your build and hope it works well.

In advanced search page for the first time choices value disapper

Hi,
I have a problem with advanced search page, in the advanced page for the first time choices field values are disapper when refresh page then all of the choice fileds value ara appear
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You can create a test case based on the JHS Demo (shipped with JHeadstart 10.1.2.2) or the HR Schema (see http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/tips/muench/jhstutorial/index.html#setuphrschemaanddata). Please e-mail it to [email protected],
* removing the cabo folder from the web root (public_html) before zipping it, it makes the zip much smaller
* renaming the .zip file to something like .zipped, otherwise our mail server will not process it
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Building a hp8673C driver (first time driver builder, coaching appreciated)

I've got a HP8673C Synthesized Signal Generator, communicating with Labview over GPIB-USB-HS cord (Labview 8.6.1 on Windows XP). There is no existing driver, so I am setting out to build one. I have never built a driver before, so here it goes.
What I've done so far:
Downloaded and installed the NI-488.2.3.0 driver.
Watched the NI presentation on the Instrument Driver Development
found the operating manual for the device (link) on the Agilent website.
created an instrument driver project, made an icon, and started testing the codes.
First question: Why does the error query vi have a loop in it? When I query the message on my device ("MG") it returns a 2 digit number error code. "00" is no error, and any non "00" code is an error. When there is an error (say, "20"), then it never stops the loop of the error query (because the return number is not equal to zero). It seems like I should just take the loop out, but I wanted to check why it was there in the first place.
Second question: Using the NI-488.2 Communicator, I query the device "*IDN?". It returns "FR03000000000HZ"; this also resets the HP8673C, and shows the error corresponding to "Invalid HP-IB code" on the device... any ideas what's happening here? Is there something I should be doing to EOS? I don't really understand what the EOI is or what my device requires.
Any help is greatly appreciated. In doing this project, I am hoping to learn more about how Labview works too, so feel free to point out things that I should know in general, especially if I'm missing steps. I hope it helps other first time driver builders too.
Attached is the driver project as it currently stands (mainly so you can check the error query vi if you want to).
Attachments:
hp8673C.zip ‏106 KB

The basic approach you are taking is the right one, since there are no existing drivers for that instrument. There are for the 8671, but I don't know how similar those instruments are.
The first thing you have to keep in mind is that the instrument you have is old. Very old.
The second thing you have to keep in mind is that the instrument driver project wizard creates a template based on an instrument that uses the SCPI standard. The instrument you have does not use the SCPI standard. Thus, several things that the template creates will simply not work correctly for the 8673C or won't apply.
With respect to your questions:
The Error Query has a loop since that's what most SCPI-based instruments work. They will have an error queue, and querying for an error will return the first error in the queue. You then repeatedly query the queue to get the next error until you get the response of "+0, No Error".
The *IDN? query is a SCPI standard. Your instrument does not support SCPI, so it does not know what that command even is. Instruments from that era had commands which were two or three characters long.
The Initialize VI performs an ID query (which you would need to chage to reflect the 8673's actual command and response) and then performs a reset or default setup. The Reset VI sends the *RST command, which, again, is a SCPI command. You would need to change this to the appropriate reset command for the 8673. A quick look at the table of commands seems to indicate it's probably the "IP" command. The default setup just sends REN which is remote enable. I think the 8673 should be OK with this, but you'd need to confirm it by looking at the manual. But then maybe you want the "IP" command here instead.
What I would suggest doing is to make things simple by creating individual VIs for each command that you are likely to use. This will allow you to test things one at a time, building up a usable library.

Photo send to journal worked first time but no longer appears as choice?

The first time that I tried to create a journals using iPhoto on my iPad-2 and put a picture on it I had no trouble. Now I no longer get a journal choice when I select a picture in an album. Anyone else having trouble adding pictures to a journal?

Never mind, I'm too stupid for words. I was looking at the pictures in the photo library rather than the iPhoto view. Works fine in iPhoto.

First time computer builder - using K7N2G-LISR

Here is my story:
I am a first time part by part computer builder, I have installed every product except a CPU and Motherboard seperately. This was my first time buying each part on its own and assembling it myself though.
The parts I am using are:
MSI K7N2G-LISR motherboard
Athlon XP 2400
512 MB 2700 DDR Corsair XMS Ram
40 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM HD
Sony 32x CD-Ron
Integrated Graphics
400W Power Supply
Vantec Aeroflow heatsink
I had some trouble installing the heatsink. I had both paste and thermal pads, since it was my first time doing this and thermal pads seemed alot easier, I tried out one of them. I continued putting the PC together and everything was working just fine.
I got to the BIOS and messed around with the settings a bit. I realized I accidently set my HD as slave to the CD-Rom. I also set it to High Performance, and allocated 128 MB of ram to the onboard graphics. Before exiting out of the bios, I checked my CPU temp and it was a whopping 64C/148F. After I powered down, I fixed my HD/CD-Rom to the proper settings, and took off my heatsink.
I removed what was left of the thermal pad and scraped as much away as I could. I then put a little layer of thermal paste on top of the CPU using the credit card method. I had a little trouble putting the heatsink back on, using its side clip.
The computer refuses to boot up at all now.
The diagnostic lights will vary depending on what settings I have, between:
(R= Red, G= Green)
R G
R R
(Memory Detection Test)
I don't know how long it is supposed to sit there, but I gave it a minute. This was the first hang-up I encountered. I had two sticks of 256 MB so I alternated between the two sticks in different DIMMs, but nothing worked.
After screwing around and putting the original settings back (with the HD/CD-Rom) I got this message:
G G
G R
(Testing Real Time Clock)
It hung there for a while too.
I left the HD/CD-Rom configuration, removed the ram, and got:
R G
R G
(Testing base and extended memory)
Again, it just sat.
No matter what I do, I can't seem to get past this stage.
My question is this:
Did I fry my CPU? If not, could you think of something else preventing me from starting up?

Well it's certainly possible that you did fry the CPU but I don't think so at this point...
Do this:
UNPLUG the machine
UNPLUG the MB from the PS
Ground yourself if possible otherwise make sure you have touched METAL on the case prior to unplugging it. And don't walk around on the carpet or shuffle your feet.
Set the HD on the Primary IDE as Single Drive/Master
Set the CDROM on the Secondary IDE as Single/Master
Take off your Heatsink and clean it really well and get ALL of the old goo off of it and the processor. Use Orange Clean as I've found it really does the best job. Put the paste (Arctic Silver II if you can get it) back on and install the fan/heatsink again.
Install 1 stick of memory in slot 3
Plug in the Floppy
Plug in the system fans and the power hookups
Plug in the MB to the PSupply
Find the jumper to reset the CMOS/BIOS and set it to clear
wait the amount of time it says in the manual and set it back. sometimes you have to remove the battery to get it to reset so you might just do that first and then do the jumper
Plug in the PS and start up the system and see what happens.
If it doesn't start you may have fried any number of things in the machine so you'll have to start replacing them one by one to figure out what the problem is.
Hope it works tho!! 8)

First time with Arch, minimal build: little niggles [solved]

Ok, I've been using *Buntu based Distros for a while now, this is my first time taking the plunge with Arch - chosen because it is a build in what you want distro.
I've wanted a minimal build install for a printserver project, this week I took the plunge with an old laptop.
I have it doing the printserver part, but there are some minor niggles. Let me detail what I have installed and what I want it to be able to do, before I detail these.
Arch Base install with:
CUPS
LXDE
Leafpad
Xorg Intel video drivers.
smartmontools
firefox
WPA_Supplicant,as this system is to be a wireless printserver.
What I want this system to do:
Run most of the time in shell, no DE running. (This keeps it cool and quiet, as it is in a bedroom)
Only run the DE when startx is called, and have the DE able to be shut down without restarting the server.
serve printjobs from the moment it boots and connects to the wireless.
What it currently does.
Boot up, wait for login
When login, require WPA_supplicant, dhcpcd and Cupsd to be initialised before it can serve printjobs.
If DE is required, Xorg must be started in tty1, startlxde ran in tty2, and then manually switch to tty7 for the DE.=
I have a script to call when i login which starts WPA_Supplicant, dhcpcd, and cupsd in that order.
I would really like the interface to have a staticip but i dont know how to do that without the handy graphical tools that ubuntu provides.
Please can you help, at least point me in the right direction with these niggles? I have learned a lot about what is required to get a basic DE up and running, and im sure with your help I will learn more.
Last edited by Rhiadratech (2011-05-20 23:07:52)

Ok, so I've gotten Cups and wicd autostarting, set the static ip from my router because else it wasnt getting DNS etc details and left it asking for that by dhcp.
Still having issues with the DE
pedro_sland wrote:
If DE is required, Xorg must be started in tty1, startlxde ran in tty2, and then manually switch to tty7 for the DE.
I run xfce4 sometimes. I just run startxfce4 and it starts Xorg and displays the DE. I think that startx runs twm which you probably don't want so you might want to take a look at that. startx has a script it runs somewhere (I forget where but the wiki will know). When I'm done with xfce I just log out and it exits.
For me, this isnt working. startlxde on its own just goes to
[root@yomiko ~]#
in tty1, and leaves me with a blank screen when i switch to tty7
I literally must call Xorg in one tty, startlxde in another and then manually shift to tty7 to see it.
startx itself:
-bash: startx: command not found
Even Xorg isnt happy being called on its own, that too goes to a blank screen, though it does at least switch to tty7
With Xorg called in tty1, when i call startlxde in tty2 i get dbug errors from pcmanfm though these seem to be just it informing its detected the HDD partitions.
there is a grumble early on in the process, before the debug errors, saying:
Importing pynotify failed, notifications disabled.
Finally, I did add the line to .xinitrc the LXDE page in the wiki said to to allow startx to run:
exec ck-launch-session startlxde
This is the only line in this file.
Currently running as root... I'm not going to complicate matters by adding a user until im sure i got it all running as root, bad practice or not!
Edit: A friend helped me solve it.
The package xorg-xinit held the startx script that was missing. I now get LXDE when i want and only when I want.
Last edited by Rhiadratech (2011-05-20 23:09:16)

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