"Fit to printable area" and aspect ratio

I have a simple question about the "fit to printable area" function: Is this selection supposed to keep a document's aspect ratio the same, or does it stretch/squash a document so it goes margin-to-margin in both directions? I am getting two different answers from my friendly nieghborhood acrobat experts.

It's the normal default option and recommended for most people because it "just works". It doesn't change aspect ratio. The only time I'd turn it off is if I had a piece whose printed size was critical e.g. architects plans, official form.

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Using Win 10 there is a need for an app to determine the full device display area and aspect ratio programitically; the dimensions are needed to create full-screen bitmap.

While Windows.Current.Bounds returns the application windows size, in order to create a full-screen bitmap my app would need to retrieve the full display area of the device. I cannot even get the aspect ratio.
Pre-Win10, using Windows.Current.Bounds I can create a bitmap of whatever size application window the user is seeing. When the user is showing my app at full screen, I can therefore get the full display area and aspect ratio of the device and create a full-screen
bitmap.
With Win10, the user would need to know to hide the taskbar and also display at full-screen before an app can retrieve the display area and aspect ratio using Windows.Current.Bounds.
Before Win10 it's obvious to the user that full-screen is or is not being used. When I create the bitmap, I create it to fit the application window. When the app is displayed full screen, the bitmap will be full screen. Also, the app starts full-screen so
I can detect the display area at startup if I need to.
With Win10, to the user the app "looks like" it is full screen with the taskbar displayed even though it's not really full screen.
I believe that in Win10 determining the full display area will be useful and not just retrieving the application window size.
musical9

Rob, Is this forum best way to get my suggestion to the development team?
Before Win10 it's obvious to the user that full-screen is or is not being used. When I create the bitmap, I create it to fit the application window. When the app is displayed full screen, the bitmap will be full screen. Also, the app starts full-screen
so I can detect the display area at startup if I need to.
With Win10, to the user the app "looks like" it is full screen with the taskbar displayed even though it's not really full screen.
Yes, Windows.Current.Bounds does work the same, but I believe that in Win10 determining the full display area will be useful and not just the application window.
musical9

In Win 10 technical preview cannot determine the full device display area and aspect ratio; the dimensions are needed to create full-screen bitmap.

While Windows.Current.Bounds returns the application windows size, in order to create a full-screen bitmap my app would need to retrieve the full display area of the device. I cannot even get the aspect ratio.
Pre-Win10, using Windows.Current.Bounds I can create a bitmap of whatever size application window the user is seeing. When the user is showing my app at full screen, I can therefore get the full display area and aspect ratio of the device and create
a full-screen bitmap.
With Win10, the user would need to know to hide the taskbar and also display at full-screen before an app can retrieve the display area and aspect ratio using Windows.Current.Bounds.
Is there any way to get the display area and aspect ratio of the device without asking the user to fully maximize the application window?
musical9

Rob, Is this forum best way to get my suggestion to the development team?
Before Win10 it's obvious to the user that full-screen is or is not being used. When I create the bitmap, I create it to fit the application window. When the app is displayed full screen, the bitmap will be full screen. Also, the app starts full-screen
so I can detect the display area at startup if I need to.
With Win10, to the user the app "looks like" it is full screen with the taskbar displayed even though it's not really full screen.
Yes, Windows.Current.Bounds does work the same, but I believe that in Win10 determining the full display area will be useful and not just the application window.
musical9

Sequence Settings and Aspect Ratios

This may be a bit of dumbo pondering but I've got a couple questions:
My HV20 camera has a DV 16:9 setting. I always use the HD setting. But if I captured such footage, what Sequence Settings would one use? If DV Anamorphic, doesn't that stretch things out? So maybe a Custom choice in Frame Setting of 640x360?
What is the reasoning for the DV Anamorphic Seq Setting to use the 3:2 Aspect Ratio (default) over the 4:3? Isn't the 3:2 converted to 4:3 when exported to dv tape, etc? But what about for internet, would 4:3 Ratio Aspect in Anamorphic (for eventually 640x360 internet movies) be a good choice?
But would that only be appropriate for Internet and if I had any hopes of other uses would 3:2 still be wisest?
What got me thinking (if you can call it that) was that I placed an animation from Archive.org in a DV Ana 3:2 Sequence. To fill the screen, Scale had to be 113, Clip Aspect Ratio: 13. Then I changed the settings to 4:3 aspect ratio and the clip fit perfectly (Scale: 100, Clip Aspect Ratio: 0).
So why not use a non-Anamorphic Seq Setting with a custom 16x9 Frame Size of 640x360?
Maybe I'm thinking too much...or not thinking at all.
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if I captured such footage, what Sequence Settings would one use?
DV Anamorphic
If DV Anamorphic, doesn't that stretch things out?
Yes ... DV 16:9 is recorded squished into a 4:3 frame so it needs to be stretched back out to 16:9 to display accurately
So maybe a Custom choice in Frame Setting of 640x360?
No, just use the DV Anamorphic Easy Setup
What is the reasoning for the DV Anamorphic Seq Setting to use the 3:2 Aspect Ratio (default) over the 4:3? Isn't the 3:2 converted to 4:3 when exported to dv tape, etc? But what about for internet, would 4:3 Ratio Aspect in Anamorphic (for eventually 640x360 internet movies) be a good choice?
But would that only be appropriate for Internet and if I had any hopes of other uses would 3:2 still be wisest?
What got me thinking (if you can call it that) was that I placed an animation from Archive.org in a DV Ana 3:2 Sequence. To fill the screen, Scale had to be 113, Clip Aspect Ratio: 13. Then I changed the settings to 4:3 aspect ratio and the clip fit perfectly (Scale: 100, Clip Aspect Ratio: 0).
So why not use a non-Anamorphic Seq Setting with a custom 16x9 Frame Size of 640x360?
Maybe I'm thinking too much...or not thinking at all.
How bout shining a little light in this dark closet!
A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing! You are trying way too hard.

Trouble Printing PDF Attachments in Outlook as "Fit to Printable Area"

If this has been discussed before, I apologize. I wasn't able to find the exact problem...
We use Outlook 2007 and Reader X here in my office. When we try to print an email w/ a PDF attachment, the attachment is not printing as "Fit to Printable Area," resulting in very tiny printed PDFs. If we open the PDF on its own, "Fit to Printable Area" is selected by default and the attachment prints as it should. The weird thing is... this is only a problem for some users. For others, the attachments always print as "Fit to Printable Area," even when printed at the same time as the email. Is there some kind of default setting for "Fit to Printable Area" that specifically applies to PDF email attachments? Is there some other reason why this problem only affects some users? Everyone is using Windows XP and we're all going to the same printer.
Thanks!
EDIT: Does any one have any ideas on this at all? Thanks again.

In the past, I have overriden the Print dialog with my own dialog..
I've called the print function with param5 = true
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/livecycle/9.0/designerHelp/index.htm?content=001383.html

Setting Acrobat/Reader page scaling to "Fit to printable area" as a default.

I know there is a way in LC Designer Form Properties>PDF Print Options to set the page scaling to "none," but is there a way to set the Acrobat/Reader option to "fit to printable area" as a default, perhaps through a script of some sort? This will aid in making sure everything on my form is printed each time. Otherwise, I'm certain some users will overlook this option and will print the doc even if it clips certain areas.
The only other option I have is to make sure the form design content fits within the "typical" print margins (i.e. 1/2" all around) and then set the form prosperities to none. There's no guarantee this option will always work as page clipping could still occur due to various printer conditions (ie. allowable print areas).
Thanks in advance.
SI

In the past, I have overriden the Print dialog with my own dialog..
I've called the print function with param5 = true
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/livecycle/9.0/designerHelp/index.htm?content=001383.html

Quality and aspect ratio with FCE and iPhoto

Project started by importing hundreds of slides shot by different cameras with difference settings. Slides were imported into i-photo where I used the slideshow function to make several segments. As I was choosing the photos and dragging them into slideshows I cropped them all into 16x9 ratio so they would all be uniform. I then sent to QuickTime movie using the built in iPhoto export button and selected “custom export” setting with DV/DVCPRO-NTSC compression with quality set to “Best” and aspect ratio to 16x9.
Then imported into FCE and did serious editing (music, effects, titles, etc.). When finished I tried exporting as both a QT self-contained movie and QT conversion (using DV/DVCPRO and 16:9) but the quality is terrible and when I make a iDVD the picture is squeezed and distorted into a 4:3 ratio despite the fact that the IDVD is set to 16:9. I have spent over a month on this project and have fellow travelers waiting for my “creative” touch. Can anyone tell me where I went wrong on both aspect ratio and quality? Thanks.
PS: Am using MacBook Pro, OS 10.7.4 FCE 4.0.1 and iPhoto-11 9.3.2

Hi
I'm not shure - but I can share my thoughts
I tried exporting as both a QT self-contained movie and QT conversion (using DV/DVCPRO and 16:9)
I DO NEVER - Use Export as QuickTime CONVERSION
I DO - Share as QuickTime .mov - straight off
I had problems with 16x9 until I understood that
• I had to select type of project as WideScreen in FC
• Browser Window in FinalCut E and Pro - can extend far to the Right with several Columns. One Column states Anamorphic. When set my material to this. THEN introduced it into TimeLine. Can not be done in after hand.
• Export as above
• In iDVD there are TWO places to set 16x9
- When creating a NEW iDVD Project - SELECT --> WideSrceen
- In iDVD Project / Projectinfo [ Shift+cmd+I ]- ALSO set 16x9
Yours Bengt W

Fit to Printable Area

When I print a document using the Fit to Printable Area setting, it puts a thin line at the top and right side of the printed page. I realize that printing with the setting as None will not put in the lines, but I'm wondering if there is a setting that will remove the lines when using Fit to Printable Area.

The second page of a duplexed page is actaully printed back end first, so from the printer's point of view the 0.08" margin actually ends up at the bottom of the page and the 0.46" margin is at the top of the page.
To print both the front and back sides with even margins would require ~0.5" margins top and bottom to accomodate the paper path when printing the back side.
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Resolution and aspect ratio.

Could somebody please help me with my problem?
I am creating a slideshow, using iMovie '08, for a party I will be attending. I am going to make copies for several guests but I am lost on the details. The master copy of my project is 1920x1080 HD. So, in what resolution and aspect ratio should I make my guest copies given that each guest will have a different television and aspect ratio setting?

Send the file to iDVD and create standard definition DVD's.

Can you set prefs in a PDF: fit to printable area

Setup: Creating sell sheets that can be downloaded from the web by all sorts of folks. Because we cannot count on all end users to choose "fit to printable area" in their print dialog, we would like to preset it in the PDF...
Question: Can we set the prefs in the PDFs so that when the customer goes to print the PDF, it always will "fit to printable area." Any ideas?
Using Acrobat Pro 8.1.2
thank you!

You cannot.
Mike

Force the "Fit To Printable Area" Option in Adobe Acrobat [Reader] Print Dialog

Hi,
I was wondering if there is a way to force Adobe Arcobat Reader to always use the "Fit To Printable Area" Option in the print dialog?
If this is possible, how can I achieve it?
Thanks...

If you only have Reader (that is different from Acrobat, the full product), then your only options would be under the preferences in Reader. If they are not there, then the answer is no. To really get a better idea, ask in the Reader forum. If you have Acrobat, then provide the version to get more specific help.

Acro 8 Pro won't Shrink or Fit to Printable Area

I have drawings that originated in AutoCAD that were saved to PDF on 24x36 sheets. I want to shrink or fit them to the printable area on 11x17,but no matter what options I check it prints the upper left portion of the origianl at full scale.
Using Acrobat 8 Pro to print to an HP 5550dn.
Printing works as expected when done from a machine with Acrobat 7.
What the heck is going on?

I have the same printer, an HP Color Laser Jet 5550dn. I am having the same/similar issue as you are. The shrink to printable area / fit to printable area option does not seem to work. If I manually input a scale that I beleive will work, it prints fine.
Apparently the options previously mentioned are not being translated to the printer properly.
For more info on my similar problem, you can read my original thread by searching my user name. I have only one thread posted.
A quick fix is to input the scale manually, but I'm still searching for a permanent solution.

Way to keep original size and aspect ratio?

I've got 3 clips (from Snapz 2) I've created for a video tutorial at 507x196 and I'd like to use iMovie to put it all together. The problem is iMovie appears to only allow 3 aspect ratios which clips out both sides and then resizes it to fit, which isn't what I need. Is there any way to keep the original aspect/size as the clip? or a suggestion for a Mac app (free or low cost) that does?
Thanks!
Dan

iMovie assumes you want to output for TV or iPhone so you are limited to 16:9. 4:3, or 3:2.
With QuickTime Pro version 7, you can choose any dimensions you need. It costs about $30. You can get it online from Apple.

Need help changing size and aspect ratio for 500+ images

Thank you for reading this! I have about 500 images of people in different poses. They're all extracted on a transparency as PNGs. They vary in aspect ratio, dimensions and position of the person within the frame - for some the feet are very close to the bottom of the frame and for some, they're higher up. I need to equalize all 3 of these qualities, so that if superimposed, they look like a video unfolding with the same zoom. My ideal size would be 800x800 at 300ppi.
Is there a way to batch even a part of the process and keep the png format? I had the images in PSD initially but they were too massive so creating catalogs with them was prohibitive.
If not possible to do a batch, what would be the best (easiest) and fastest way to do it? I'm thinking that maybe creating some template where an oval shape the size of the head can help create consistency of the size of the person and a line that helps set up the distance from the bottom?
I so appreciate any help you have to offer. Part of my problem is that I don't know what these processes are called so I don't even know what to search for. If you can even name the actions that I need, it would be of great help. I already paid a designer to do the extraction and they were supposed to do this formatting as well and they didn't so my budget is shot. I'm hoping that if I understand what the steps are, I can do them myself.
Thank you!

If you download my crafting actions package you can record an action that uses one of my plug-in scripts to do that process. You could then batch that action and process your 500 png image files.
Crafting Actions Package UPDATED Aug 10, 2014 Added Conditional Action steps to Action Palette Tips.
Contains
Action Actions Palette Tips.txt
Action Creation Guidelines.txt
Action Dealing with Image Size.txt
Action Enhanced via Scripted Photoshop Functions.txt
CraftedActions.atn Sample Action set includes an example Watermarking action
Sample Actions.txt Photoshop CraftedActions set saved as a text file.
More then a dozen Scripts for use in actions
Example
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Step 1 Select layers transparency
Step 2 Copy
Step 3 Paste
Step 4 Select all
Step 5 Align Layer s to selection vertical center
Step 6 Align Layer s to selection horizontal center
Step 7 Select bottom Layer
Step 8 delete current layer
Ste9 9 Fille>Automate>AspectRatopSelection... In the dialog set 1 1 ratio center rectangle replace selection feather 0
Step 10 Image Crop
Step 11 File Automate>Fit Image. In dialog enter width and height 800
Step 12 Image size in the dialog uncheck Resample and enter 300 in the resolution field.
I'm sure the should work you mane not need the copy paste and it depends on how Photoshop treats the PNG layer the canvas size or just the pixels.
This may also work
Step 1 Select all
Step 2 Align Layer s to selection vertical center
Step 3 Align Layer s to selection horizontal center
Ste9 4 Fille>Automate>AspectRatopSelection... In the dialog set 1 1 ratio center rectangle replace selection feather 0
Step 5 Image Crop
Step 6 File Automate>Fit Image. In dialog enter width and height 800
Step 7 Image size in the dialog uncheck Resample and enter 300 in the resolution field.

Letterboxing and Aspect Ratio problem

I'm authoring a feature film DVD. All menus and movies are 16:9
When I play the Simulator in "16:9" everything is fine.
When I play the Simulator in "4:3 Letterbox" my menus are letterboxed as desired, however every movie is for some reason squished into 4:3.
Any ideas?
The Video Asset box in the Inspector tells me all my movies are 720x480 16:9.
All tracks show in the Track Inspector as display mode 16:9 Letterbox.
All Menus show in the Menu Inspector as Aspect Ratio 16:9
Also of note, one of my tracks is used both as a movie and as a motion menu. Although it's the same track, with the simulator in 4:3 it's correctly letterboxed as a menu, yet squished as a movie!
I exported from a 16:9 Anamorphic project in FCP (as a QTmovie set to Anamorphic NTSC DV) and imported straight into DVD Studio Pro. (I've noticed on these forums most people go through Compressor. I didn't. Would that be the cause of my headache?)
The movies display in my QuickTime Player as 16:9 clips with a size of 853x480

The Simulator is very far from accurate. Burn a disc, then pop it into a DVD player.

"Fit to printable area" and aspect ratio

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