Fiters applied with Time Remapping don't work?

Guys,
I'm finding when I use the "Time Re-Mapping" on a clip and then apply another key-framed filter it doesn't work .. although they do work if you don't key frame them. I guess it kind-of makes sense... but is this purely because the clip is time-remapped? Is this a 'bug' or is it like that with any NLE? As a work-around, I can export that time-remapped single clip to an AVI (or other format), re-import the now remapped clip and apply the key-framed filter and it works fine .. which I suppose proves my hypothesis.

The way Premiere works.... probably so. I think it could be reasonably argued either way. If it is "normal", I guess I'd like to see an error message or something say "hey, you can't do that on a time re-mapped clip" .. or something like that.
But then, I'd like to see a progression bar fill up as AME loads a project too just so I'd have that warm & fuzzy that something is happening and know my machine hadn't frozen.
Thanks...

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