Fitting text properly in frame

Hello all,
I am having trouble getting text to fit correctly into a text box fit into a specific width column and I was wondering if there are options for overriding the automatic flow of text from line to line without resorting to changing spacing between specific letters/words.
There is space to fit the word "sustainable" on one line but indesign pushes it to the next. The word fits when I add letters to the word, making it longer (and obviously able to fit in the frame), but not when I add a space before the word. I'd like to force the word "sustainable" to fit on the top line.
Suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

What you are seeing is one of InDesign's best features, the Pragraph Composer, at work. Just becasue a word WILL fit doesn't mean putting it on a particular line is going to give the best overall balance to a paragraph. The Paragraph Composer looks at the entire paragraph and breaks lines in such a way as to create the best overall spacing for what the paragraph contains.
You might be able to force the word up by using a non-breaking space in front of it instead of a regular space.

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