Flash to Illustrator - colors change!

Flash CS3: I export an image in Flash as Illustrator file (6 or 88).
When I open such an AI file in Illustrator CS3, it keeps the shapes and layers from Flash, but turns out to have lost the brillant RGB colors and shows very "greyish" CMYK colors!
I can't find any settings in Flash or Illustrator to avoid this conversion of colors. Illustrator doesn't ask me if I want to open the file with RGB or CMYK colors.
Can someone tell me what to to in order to keep the original Flash RGB colors when exporting a frame as Illustrator file?
Thanks in advance!

Well… AI won't place .swf or .fla. Export from Flash (CS4) to .ai format & it opens fine in AI except you get the horrible color shifts. Strangely these files won't place in AI, at last for me—I get an error even though other .ai files place just fine.
I have what I consider good & sufficient reasons to want to do certain illustrations in Flash, but then I also need to use them as separate files…
Interestingly, the color shift appears to happen when exporting from Flash, not on opening in AI. At least if you do this the shift still happens… Export from Flash in .ai format. Place the resulting file in an RGB InDesign document & the colors are, well, sad…
I could totally understand this right after Adobe bought Macromedia… but it's been long enough that it really seems these sorts of interaction glitches should be worked out… hey it's been a year since the first post on the topic.
I did find a sorta kludge that at least doesn't change the colors & let's ya place the file in InDesign, but not edit the vectors: Save from Flash as a .pdf—I use print to PDF. Unfortunately it saves the Flash stage along with the artwork so your lose all transparency in a paper sized area (depending on your print paper settings).
The other option I've used, if you have CS4 at least, is to use AI's Color Guide > Edit Colors to adjust the colors. It's easier than doing them all individually at least. For me I find working with the colors in LAB is easiest if you don't need exact matches with Flash (just something that looks decent)—it let's you resaturate & adjust brightness easiest without changing the base color.
If anyone has a solution, please please post… and many thanks in advance.

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