FLASH video conference large scale over 100k simultanous connections

Hello
I am involved in project managment for a large video conferncing project involving over 100k simultanous connection and most likely to be increased 4 times by next six months.While figuring out the scalability area ,it was concluded that smart selection of hardware and origin-edge clustering will be suited most. Well while studying this documentation says it supports thousands of calls but unfortunately I could not determine the actual numbers. Can you tell me how many edge server will be needed for 100k simultanous calls/number of sessions per edge server and will we need license (4500$) for each edge server?
Quick support will be appreciated.

There is no limit by theory on number of clients edge can support. It all depends upon your server machine i.e. hardware you are using like RAM, Processor , Network card and also other factors like your network bandwidth might also come into play. Also kind of work you are doing at server like what kind of applications are loaded would also matter.
Yes you have to buy license for each server but I am not sure about exact pricing, You can contact Adobe Sales to get exact details about pricing.

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0x97388000 - 0x97472fff com.apple.viceroy.framework 277.0 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VideoConference.framework/Versions/A/VideoCon ference
0x97ba3000 - 0x97ba5fff com.apple.DisplayServicesFW 1.8.2 /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DisplayServices.framework/Versions/A/DisplayS ervices
0x97dd0000 - 0x98a9efff com.apple.QuickTimeComponents.component 7.1.5 /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeComponents.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTim eComponents
0x98ce8000 - 0x98ceafff com.apple.QuickTimeH264.component 7.1.5 /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeH264.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeH264
0x98cec000 - 0x98e97fff com.apple.QuickTimeH264.component 7.1.5 /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeH264.component/Contents/Resources/QuickTimeH 264.scalar
0x98f07000 - 0x98fcafff com.apple.QuickTimeMPEG4.component 7.1.5 /System/Library/QuickTime/QuickTimeMPEG4.component/Contents/MacOS/QuickTimeMPEG 4
0x99461000 - 0x9946cfff com.apple.IMFramework 3.1.3 (429) /System/Library/Frameworks/InstantMessage.framework/Versions/A/InstantMessage
0x99476000 - 0x995e2fff com.apple.MessageFramework 2.1.1 (752.3) /System/Library/Frameworks/Message.framework/Versions/B/Message
i dont know if anyone owuld understand that but if any one has any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. thanks!

Hi elementsk8er506,
Welcome to the Apple Discussions
This bit
Chat ended with error -8
Video Conference Error Report:
Video Conference Support Report:
Video Conference User Report:
Binary Images Description for "iChat"is the important bit. (And then the Binary images bit is only listed so you know where we are talking about)
The three "titles" have no info inside their sections.
This means that the ports are not open somewhere.
As to which end (other than changing to AIM 5.9 as well) the problem lies is difficult to say.
1) If you Mac Firewall is On do the stuff around the Second pic here http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/page4.html#_ports
2) Have you set these ports or set UPnP to work in your Modem or Router ?
3) Have you gone to System Preferences > Quicktime > Streaming tab and set the drop down to 1.5Mbps/T1/LAN
These are the most common reasons on a Mac.
That is not to say that AIM 5.9 does not need setting up.
A) AIM 5.9
B) Tuning the Camera and Mic to app.
Press F3 and follow the instructions in the link form message #570
Most of this is covered in "What if your Girlfriend..."
C) Then the XP firewall needs none Microsoft apps allowed as Exceptions
The basic FAQ on this http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406147
A longer version
http://www.mvldesign.com/videoconferencetutorial.html
8:02 PM Thursday; March 22, 2007

Large scale Connect Session, 3 Continents, 1000s of participants, tips?

I am doing a large scale webinar using Adobe Connect with 20 different presenters in three different continents. I will be the host, but will give up host duties to others who will act as technical team members in the three regions (Europe, Americas, Pacific). This sounds like alot of moving parts, and it is my first show with this software.
Does anyone have any tips on this level of participation? Any information would be helpful...
Thanks

Congrats. Lots of customers are doing that today. How many participants? 1000's?
And you are running this on your own server or Adobe Hosted?
You using VOIP or using an integrated audio provider?
Suggestions:
1. Hosts should avoid using wireless connections as they are always risky for interference. Best practice is to use wired ethernet.
2. Keep the use of webcams to the start but after the meeting gets going reduce the use of webcam video as sometimes it can be distracting....all depends on the focus of your meeting
3. Mute everyone but the hosts to keeo audio interference and noise to a minimum
4. Suggest that VOIP users have proper headsets designed for VOIP. This is s best practice.
5. Make sure you add a nice background image to the room using preferences...personalize it
6. Use the Q&A Pod to field questions.....download the multi-language chat pod from the Adobe Connect Exchange....trnaslates chat into various languages on the fly....very cool with the U.N.

IChat video conference connection problem

I am having trouble connecting in a video conference. I get to starting connection then it just hangs, or it will say that I did not respond. I have a netgear router which I know causes problems but i opened up every possible port that iChat uses. I am using a webcam supported by ichat, my video comes up fine

Hi,
This page is for how to Access and to view only.
It shows UPnP.
Make sure it is enabled and the setting saved.
Repeat. (Enable it again and save) as setting it twice on some firmware seems to make a difference.
This will allow the ports to be open when the Application wants them.
Make sure there si nothing set in the Port Forwarding section.
6:59 PM Friday; December 29, 2006

Placing object over flash video flv

Hi folks
I am trying to place a link and an image over the top of a
FLV component using css
HOWEVER the objects are always covered by the flv
I have achieved it before with CSS when working with an image
(i.e. image in one DIV and positioned relative and the overlaying
objects in another DIV positioned absolute to the image DIV) but
never with an SWF or FLV
Can anyone tell/advise me how to achieve this IF it is indeed
possible.
Or alternately another way apart from putting the flv in a
swf with the link embedded in the swf
Any help or advice much appreciated
Cheers
J

IE6 playing at the same frame rate as Firefox.
"julie.jenkinson" <[email protected]> wrote
in message
news:frcq50$ig3$[email protected]..
> Hello!
>
> I've got a problem overlaying an image over a Flash
Video.
>
> You can view a test page
http://ll-lllll.com/essai_TEST.html
> It's just a video playing, and when you hover over it,
it displays some
> info
> on top of it.
>
> I'm using DIV layers in DW for both the video and the
image, and I've
> added
> the wmode=opaque parameter in the code so that the
z-order of the layers
> is
> taken into consideration.
> Now, everything's look ok in Firefox, but in Internet
Explorer the video
> plays
> at a very slow frame rate (the semi transparent info
image isn't the
> source of
> the problem). Do you maybe know another way to do this,
so that it works
> fine
> in all browsers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Julie.
>

Preloader Countdown (5...4...3...2...1) for Large Flash Videos

My website progressively downloads some large flash videos.
The videos appear jumpy for people with slower internet
connections. Does anyone know of a way to create a preload
countdown (like in movies) that would give the video some more time
to load?

Hi
Not as a transition but as You got iMovie HD 6 there might be a plug-in that does this
(in FinalCut Express or Pro when export back to Camera this can be selected)
Stupendous software http://www.stupendous-software.com
GeeThree http://www.geethree.com
cf/x. http://www.imovieplugins.com
Apple http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/video/ezediapluginsforimovievol1.html
http://www.imovieplugins.com/fxhome.html
Yours Bengt W

How Smooth Should Flash Video Play over a 6Mbps DSL Connection?

Hello,
I am noticing a lot of stuttering on my Flash videos viewed over the internet, Win 7 64bit and IE 8, Opera & Chrome.
Here is a link to some tests - http://watchmymvp.com/Encoding%20Test/EncodingTest.htm
Please give some feedback on your playback experience if you would!
Some background:
I am a video producer who shoots, edits, encodes and manages a few websites. I am very familiar with bitrates and encoding.
The videos I am seeing stuttering on are created from HD content and were encoded in Adobe Media Encoder at a bitrate from 775kbps down to 400kbps. When I play these through my 6meg DSL connection there is a constant random stutter like the video is stuggling with a low buffer. This happens even after the download bar shows the entire video is downloaded.
So am I expecting too much from Flash video? Will it always be an "internet" experience and not smooth?
When I double-click the .swf files in Windows Explorer they play just fine, very smooth. Maybe a SWF Publishing setting?
The Flash player is the latest which was uninstalled and re-installed
Thanks!

Hello Vicente, thanks for your reply.
So the videos did not show stuttering when you watched them? Could I ask what your computer specs are? - Mac/PC, browser etc...
I get a random stutter which shows up more when there is camera movement.
I am trying to track down why this is happening when the .swf file played locally plays perfectly.
Since I an in the video industry, I would like these files to play as if they are on a television is that is possible.
Thanks for your input.

Firefox for windows won't display absolute positioned divs over flash video

I have a website that has a brightcove video player. About a month or so ago, I was able to float divs over the video player so that they would display on top of the video player, using absolute positioning.
You can see the player here:
lifeminute.tv/evv/8+9+10+11+12+34/widget300s
In Firefox (mac), Chrome (windows), Internet explorer (windows) and Safari (mac) it all still displays properly. In Firefox (windows) the video player ignores the Z-index I assign it, and always places the divs underneath it, UNLESS I give the floating div a solid background color.
When I assign the following styles to the div containing the overlay, I can see the text properly, but of course the video is obscured.
background-color: #FFFFFF;
height: 158px;
position: absolute;
top: 4px;
width: 275px;
If I remove the background-color element the whole overlay pops to the back of the stack behind the video again.
Is this a FF windows bug or am I just missing something obvious?

At times you have to add wmode="transparent" attribute to the flash video embed code.

Computer freezes when I'm moving the mouse over flash videos

Hello,
Sometimes when I move the mouse over a flash video to pause it or to even start it, my computer completely freezes. I'm using a laptop and the LED that lights up whenever the HD is being used completely stops lighting, indicating that the hard drive is no longer being used.
All buttons stop working, including combinations like CTRL + ALT + Delete. The Caps Lock LED does not light up when pressing Caps Lock, and my mouse completely stops moving. All I'm left up is with a frozen image, and the only way to stop the computer is by pressing and holding the stop button on the laptop.
When I restart the computer, the websites and tabs restore on the next Firefox start-up.
I thought this only happened to YouTube videos, but now I've experienced it with another type of video.
This only happens in Firefox and with flash videos. Does anybody know how I can fix this?
Thanks!

Hello, thank you for the response.
I could try that, but the thing is, this only happens rarely. I don't know if there is any way to deliberately cause this, but freezing the computer is not the most pleasant thing, because it requires closing it by using the physical button on the computer, rather than the Windows Shutdown command.

Advantages of QT over Flash Video?

I am of the opinion that from experience Quicktime is the best codec system available by far.
However when dealing with some clients re video for their sites they state that according to their webmasters flash video is sufficient.
Another argument put forward also by some webmasters also is that video is too expensive for their clients websites in general! (which I disagree with)
Can anyone back up my case for QT with some supporting technical arguments re 1 ) the benefits of QT and 2) the "cost" argument.
Long live QT!
ps ( I am not being critical of Flash but the quality of files I have compressed using QT is excellent)
Thanks
Mike

Both formats require third party browser plug-ins so some users may require download instructions.
Video quality of QuickTime is vastly superior to Flash video. MPEG-4 and H.264 even allow "HD".
QuickTime allows more video and audio codecs. This helps maintain backward compatibility for older OS's.
QuickTime can use "reference movies" which help in streaming video (RTSP) settings. One file can go a long way and reach nearly every version of the Player or the browser plug-in.
In the creation aspect QuickTime is highly scriptable which can speed up your workflow.
Flash video (.flv extension) requires you "build" a browser "player". QuickTime comes with its own player window.
Not many of us are sure of Adobe's (Macromedia's new owner) level of commitment with Flash software. Do they have some new plans? Will this require new software purchases? Will our old stuff continue to work?
Show your clients the quality by using QuickTime. Then show them the .flv "conversion". If quality matters they'll use QuickTime.

Flash videos on facebook freeze when mouse rolls over

When I move my mouse pointer onto a flash video on facebook, the video freeze. The audio does not. Mostly noticed with youtube videos posted on facebook. No other sites showing this problem.

I just tested this on an existing install of FF 35 on another computer (a headless win 7 x32), one that has been working just fine. I RDP'd to it from both this new computer and a 3rd computer (also Win 7 x64 but does not have FF installed). When I RDP'd to the headless unit via the 3rd computer, FF 35 played FB videos just fine (though I did get the weird play button thing). But when I RDP's to the headless unit from this new computer, FF 35 will not play FB videos. So it must be something here on this computer that is messing things up.

Live video conference over internet

hi frndz,
i have done a video conference application which works fine in LAN.
i have a static IP server to host the video conference application.
my problem is that i was not able to recieve the video transmitted from the server. in vise-versa if i send it from client which is in different network, i am able to recieve it frm the server using the public IP of my ISP,
can any one help me how to transmit in rtp:// from server and how to recieve it in the client side
i have checked this transimission and receiving by JMF studio and my code
rgds
-venkat

hi,
first get clear idea on JMF archietecture and wot it does,
Start with creating a player,
learn about processors, DataSource, realizing a player, media types supported by JMF and RTP protocol,
by learning above things u ll be clear about how to start ur video conference app,
for further clarification revert me back
rgds
-Venkat

Resizing flash video within flash site

http://marketing.interactmag.com/3/interactmag-Features/#2
How can the pixelation in the video on this page be stopped? I'm assuming that this is a resizing issue. But if you are creating pristine video and it gets pixelated like this, what's the point?

Text, when added in a video editing program, are usually give a font size... meaning they will look best when displayed at that particular size... 24pt... 60 pt... whatever.
One option that will sometimes provide better quality is to create the text in a .png (with transparent background) file in PhotoShop and then convert the text to a "shape". Main menu, Layer, Type, Convert to shape.
Then import that graphic into your video editing program... it will scale better than set font size text.
900kbps for a 640x360 video would provide only average quality at best. Then the quality would degrade at any scaling up because as you scale up, to maintain the same quality, you would also need to increase the video bitrate.
For review:
Video bit rate
One of the principle of goal setting is to "Begin with the end in mind". In this case it'll be very hard to give good recommendations because the end is not defined. So I'll just make a few assumptions and you can correct me as needed.
First, I'll assume that since you are converting to Flash, you want to deliver this video over the Internet. If that's true, then we'll have to make some assumptions on the Internet connection download speeds of your potential viewers. Let's just say that most have at least a 1.5Mb connection or faster.
OK, that would mean that a video bitrate of half that should usually provide a video download that is not interupped by buffering (most of the time anyway). So assuming a video bitrate of 750kbps, what would the optimum display dimensions be?
Before we decide, here's a little info about bitrate. For highest quality playback, the video bitrate is tied directly to the display dimensions. That is, the larger the display, the more incoming data is required to properly display the video. Think of bitrate in terms of a can of paint. If you have 1 quart of paint, you might be able to do a very nice job on a 32 X 24 foot area. But if you try to stretch that same amount of paint out over a 64 X 48 foot area, the coverage will not be nearly as good and you get poor results.
In the same way, a video displayed at 640 X 480 pixels will require 4 times the bitrate as a video displayed at 320 X 240 pixels to produce the same quality. So for example a video with a bitrate of 100kbps, displayed at 160 X 120 will produce the same quality results as a video with a bitrate of 1600kbps if displayed at 640 X 480.
So to boil it all down, video bitrates of 750kbps, even up to 1000kbps can usually get delivered of the Internet on most high speed connections. Higher bit rates may work for really fast connections but will cause problems for viewers with slower connections. Video display size has a direct bearing on the final quality. In the 750 to 1000kbps range, display size should be kept around 450 or 500 width max (and whatever height the aspect ratio calls for). Yes it can be displayed larger, but the quality will suffer.
Sound like your audio settings are fine, especially for Internet delivery.
As for framerate, maintain the original raw video framerate for best results. So if the video was shot at 24fps, leave it.
As for video converters, do you have the Flash 8 Video Converter? It works just fine for video to be delivered over the Internet. Remember, you are taking a Cadillac version of video (h.264 HD) and stuffing it into a Chevy body to get it to work over the Internet.
Best wishes,
Adninjastrator

How can I tell that AutoQOS config is adequate on a video conference switch

I have a Tandberg video conference bridge and gateway connected to a 3750 switch. The audio is marked EF and the video CS3. I configured AutoQos on the switch and trust DSCP on the ports. When we reach a large video conference of 25 or more attendies, we begin to have problems. The Tandberg starts to ratchet some of the video streams down, some to below 180kps, and the conference quality begins to suffer.
The only change to the default AutoQOS config I've made is changing the "mls qos trust dscp" on the uplinks, adding a QOS policy on the Tandberg ports to mark the video with CS3 and trust the audio DSCP (Tandberg had a bug that didn't mark the video packets) and adding
queue-set 2
priority-queue out
to the uplinks.
Will the default AutoQOS queue/buffer/SRR share and shape commands be adequate for 25 to 30 simultaneous video streams? We allow about 500k per stream.
I read through the 3750 QOS guide, but am a bit confused with the explanations of the queuing and SRR workings. I know that CS3 is mapped to COS-3, but don't know which queue it goes in and whether or not it gets shaped/disgarded when too much video is present.
Once I am sure that the 3750 QOS is working OK, and not causing problems with our large conference calls, then I'll expand my troubleshooting to the rest of the network.
I've attached a text file with the 3750 config, and 'show mls qos int statistics' that show the packets are being marked.

I mistyped in my first post. I do indeed mark the video as AF41 (Cos4). It is the call control that I mark CS3 with the policy map to get around the old Tandberg bug that doesn't mark the call control.
So do you think the queue 3, where Cos4 goes to, is big enough to handle 30 video streams of 480k? If my calculation is correct that would be 14.4mbps of video on a 100mbps port.
With this config.....
srr-queue bandwidth share 10 10 60 20
srr-queue bandwidth shape 10 0 0 0
...is it telling me that queues 1 & 2 get 10% bw, queue 3 gets 60% and queue 4 gets 20% bw and is shared? If that is correct than 60% is more than enough for 14.4mbps of video.
What happens if too much video overruns the queue?

FLASH video conference large scale over 100k simultanous connections

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