Flash vs Flex

Can anyone sum up what is the difference?
As far as understand it, flex offers slightly more components
than flsh i.e. data grid etc.
For a simple web based application which would be best????
Thanks

> To put it in a perspective, Flex is a bit more powerful
in
> terms of extending and customizing things you can do in
> Flash, but Flash is still for designers and Flex is for
> programmers. At least that's how I see it. ;)
I wouldn't say Flex is more powerful, necessarily. Both apps
create
content that runs on the Flash Platform (i.e., the Flash
Player). Flex has
no drawing tools at all, so if your customization involves
graphics, then
Flash is more "powerful" in terms of customizing graphics.
The Flex
*framework* is very powerful, in terms of UI Components that
play nicely.
You can use Flex to write SWFs with the Flex framework
included, or to write
ActionScript classes that stand on their own -- in which case
you're doing
what you could do in any of the freeware scripting IDEs
geared at
ActionScript.
Flex is much more aimed at programmers. To my thinking, it's
the Visual
Studio or JBuilder of Flash. But you're not going to see very
many Flash
games done in Flex -- at least not for a while. Flex apps
have a certain
look to them -- the way PowerPoint presentations have a
certain look to them
(not to compare Flex to PowerPoint ... sorry!) -- and this
look is there
because of the pre-packaged UI Components and overall
structure Flex
provides. Flex *definitely* has a nicer scripting IDE. If you
do a lot of
programming in Flash, you may quickly want to try something
like the
freeware SE|PY instead (
http://www.sephiroth.it/python/sepy.php).
If you're planning to make winform-like apps, you may want
to try Flex.
If you're planning to write highly customized, visual
"experineces," you're
likely to feel more comfortable with Flash.
David
stiller (at) quip (dot) net
Dev essays:
http://www.quip.net/blog/
"Luck is the residue of good design."

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For the last few years I have been developing applications for project reporting. To explain this in simplest terms, my clients give me hundreds of reports and supporting documents, graphics, videos, etc. which I then condense and reorganize into a presentation/application in Flash. The project is then published as an .exe to be burned to CD ROM or DVD along with any supporting files and is then distributed to project stake holders, investors, etc.
I'm considering the possibility of a switch from Flash to Flash Catalyst/Flex and want to outline what my needs are, here in the forum, in hopes that others now using Catalyst/Flex can help me decide if this is an appropriate move.
Features needed:
1. Basic animation, transitions, etc.
2. Full Navigation (up to 3 levels) for up to 300 slides.
3. Keyboard navigation (PageUp/PageDown) to navigate sequentially through the entire presentation.
4. Linking into other applications and documents - Word, Excel, Power Point, etc.
5. Full Screen Mode
6. Slide Show Mode
7. Search Features
8. Slide sharing (via email)
9. Video and audio w/controls
10. Pan and Zoom w/controls (panning and zooming of graphics and .swf files)
11. Scrolling (scrolling of text, graphics and .swf files)
12. Interactive forms
Can anyone please comment specifically on these features and wether or not they are possible using Catalyst and/or Catalyst/Flex in combination.
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With the exception of making fre-form animations (like a cartoon for example), everything you can do in Flash can be done in Flex considerably faster.
The downside is that Flex applications (especially ones designed in Catalyst) are generally larger, and consume more memory. Personally, I never publish anything made in Catalyst without optimizing it in Flash Builder first.
If the drop in operating performance isn't a deal breaker (most of the time you can't even notice it), then I would certainly consider moving to Flex going forward on new projects.

Posing a question for those well versed in flash and flex

I would like to start an off-line communication chat with those of you who are well versed in Flash and Flex.
I've worked with Cold Fusion but I am not up to date on all the technologies available. This seems like the perfect forum for this question.
I simply want to build an application (web or desktop is unknown) in which a person can learn a foreign language, in this case English.
I need some technical advice as to whether Flash, Flex, or a combination of technologies (Cold Fusion for server side functionality) is the best choice for this application. I do not understand the technical aspects of Flash or Flex in building applications so I need the advice of you experts.
As with most foreign language textbooks, audio, or foreign language video training, the material is not interesting, not pertinent to daily life, and is great for late night insomnia. I've never seen any type of foreign language training that is interesting, fun, or uses current events as part of the curriculum.
I would like to illustrate my idea with an example. I want to use an existing English beginners textbook (for kids), scan the images in the textbook, store the content (rules of grammar) in a database and store example sentences in a database.
I would like to record basic audio sentences from the textbook (Do you know tomorrow's weather), incorporate some animation (baseball player hitting a home run), incorporate some basic video (purchasing an item at the grocery store), add a quiz, test question or puzzles, etc..
In addition, since this is a classroom setting and the kids are split into groups, I would like to store a seating chart with the kids names and pictures in a database. After the first segment is finished (e.g. purchasing a toy at the store) the kids next perform an activty. I want to use a combination of audio, video, and animation to explain the activity, give instructions, split the class into groups,and perform the activity.
As I mentioned before, I would like to start an off-line discusion for those of you who are willing to share some of you knowledge and experience with both Flash and Flex. Since you are extremely busy, maybe you might be able to point me in the right direction.
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This is an abitious project even for some-one well versed in flex/flash, i have to give you points for outstanding courage on this .
You need to cover quite a few areas in a project like this both for the client and the back end, you need a strong understanding of animation(either through code or the flash timeline), data parsing, logic trees for the quiz/test elements and a lot more before the first line of code would be written.
In Australia there are already a few companies using flex for online educational applications and at least 1 state educational Authority. A search on the internet will find several sites pertaining to flash/flex based online education software and this would be a starting point to give you an idea of the strength flex has in this area.
Beyond this it is not the sort of project that 'help' would be readily available for unless it was relating to very specific issues you could readily define. Also this is not the best forum to request this type of help as the forum is more about testing a beta product. I am sure that if you start learning about flex and have trouble understanding different aspects of how things work there will be plenty of support from the flex community.
Message was edited by: David_F57
by forum I don't mean the whole forum just this branch.

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the swf file in web, how to tell it was made by Flash or
Flex? accurately!

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Why change from flash to flex?

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I'd like to know why is flex a better alternative to build
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the reasons to change, since flash can do almost anything that flex
can to, so please explain it to me. thanks

Let me try a short answer: I think Adobe targets two
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Stefan

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https://iamjosh.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/embedding-flash-in-flex/
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Found the answer (sort of). it's only partially possible. The
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James

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Missing base class Events (flash.events) | Flex 4.1 SDK | Flex Builder 3

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Will BlazeDS work with Flash (not Flex or AIR)?

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James

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ELIPS Studio from Open Plug to develop with Flash or Flex

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Sorry, but you will not get any sort of official responses from Apple here. These forums are for user-to-user technical assistance and are not an official method for communicating with Apple.
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