Flattening causes Empty Audio Region

I've been trying to flatten a few of my comps and when I do, an entirely separate comp on the board disappears. It's weird. I click flatten and merge and a comp that's completely separate on the board disappears and turns white. Does anyone else know what I'm talking about? I read that the 9.1.3 was supposed to fix this issue, but I've updated and it doesn't help.
Thank you for your help

The pencil tool won't work in this case, because it hasn't added 2 bars of blank audio file , just 2 bars of a blank region. You can't glue audio and MIDI regions together.
A fairly simple way of doing this is to use the ruler bar, and cycle the one measure you want the loop to occupy. Then solo that track, and bounce, making sure you have "Add to Audio Bin" selected in the bounce window.
Then go to the audio bin, and drag the new one bar audio file to the arrange page, replacing the original 2 beat loop segment.

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How do you make an audio region longer ? Is a region a container ?

i hav a sample of a kick drum, i repeat it 4 times to make a loop (classic house/techno kicck loop) .. now the samples are shorter than one beat so i have gaps in my loop .. i choose'Merge' to 'weld' them together, it asks me to create a new audio file .. but the resulting region stops fter the end of the last sample, so there is a whole until the end of the cycle, so i can't use the loop feature (cause when i do the next loop will start immediately after the last sample end .. so everyhthing is out of sync.
it seems i need to add some silence to the audio file at the end so that my region is exactly 1 bar long and i can loop it ...
can't i just create a region from the samples without having to resort to audio editing ... isn't a region just a container, like in cubase ?
thx for any help

yes, a region is just a container or a reference pointing at the original audio file.
However, this means the region cannot be longer than the original audio file.
What you want to do is set your locators from say bar 1 to bar 5 (for a four bar section), solo the track, and select File > Export or File > Bounce...
In the later, you can ask Logic to add the resulting file to the Audio Bin.
Now you will have your 4 bar loop.
Another way, would be to cut out a piece of empty audio. Copy it to the end of the beat to create a perfect 4 bar loop and merge the all the regions. Logic will mix down to a file.
Alternatively, if you want to repeat regions (instead of Looping them), select the region, and in the local menu select Region > Repeat regions.
Cheers
Rounik

Copy/pasting audio regions between different tempo projects

hi, ran into a strange problem when working on a film voiceover...
did the recording the other week for a new language version. when done i converted the takes to 48khz as that's the rate in the original logic file. edited together the new, english version cutting and mixing together the best parts of 5 takes. ended up with about 200 nice audio regions in a row.
what happened is that when i tried to copy the new english version in the old logic project it gets totally screwed up. the reason being (i think) that the new project is 120bpm and the old one 77,7476 (?), which i didnt notice before.
is there any way i can
1) paste the 120 bpm stuff into the 77bpm stuff so that it ignores the tempo difference? – now the ends of the regions change, causing sentences to to end funilly, and there a gaps between regions.
or
2) change the 120bpm projects tempo to 77bpm without screwing it up?
or any other solution?
thanks,
/r

Hi Rikard,
Beforehand, forgive me for any overexplaining I might do. In case of underexplaining, just ask.
200 regions in a row? On one track, right?
1) If so, you could simply merge all the audio regions into one fixed file. Select all regions on the track and hit the '=' shortcut. Logic will tell you that it is gonna make a new file. This new file you can then import into the other project. Audio (not loop) files are independent of Logic's tempo. It is just that the bar division doesn't line up with the tempo anymore. But if that is not a problem...
Also I do not understand why the new project is at 120 bpm? Is there a reason for that, other than that it is the default value when opening an empty project? If not, just set it to the 77 something of the old project. If there is already stuff in your new project and now you want to add your 200-region audio, use method 1). If you change the tempo, two thing change: the tempo of any mioditrack, and the time between audio regions. The audio regions itself will not change.
regards, Erik.

Why do my EMPTY audio tracks playback ANOTHER audio track?

Why do my EMPTY audio tracks playback ANOTHER audio track?
Example: A vocal track (audio 2) being played through an empty guitar track (audio 1).
The vocal track is magically being played through the guitar track with distortion. WHAT possible feature is this good for and how do I get rid of this annoying problem? I looked at the reassign tracks menu and it doesn't say its connected or anything... I don't know if this has been addressed before on this site but I can't find the answer any where on Apple Discussion's website. Please help.
Thanks

A key concept to understand is that Logic is more flexible when it comes to "tracks" than most other DAWs.
For instance, most DAW use a fixed "one arrange track is one audio channel" approach.
Logic doesn't. You can have many arrange tracks all assigned to the same audio mixer channel (although only one will sound at a time).
You probably have two arrange tracks assigned to the same audio object (key command "New arrange track with same object") rather than creating a new arrange track together with a new independent audio channel (key command "New arrange track with next object").
Try this. Hit the + button at the top of the track list, and create a new audio track. This creates a new arrange track and assigns it to the next available audio object.
Move your second region to this new track - does that work as you expect now?

Logic wont play back audio regions under certain tracks.

Hello! I am rearranging my audio files (throwing them all to my secondary hard drive, where I record to ). I did this, and now certain audio files to do not play back in my logic projects, but there is no warning that says the file cannot be found--which is what I am used to happening. At that point I would either hit the Search button, or the Manually Find button. Instead, the region appears as per usual, just with nothing playing back. I know I could import the audio back into my projects manually--which would be fine for those that start at a specific, clean-cut time, but what about all those spliced and diced regions that are cut up and laid out all over the place!?
I discovered new details to the weirdness . . .
It seems, in the few projects that I relocated audio, that the affected regions cannot be played back unless I move them to another audio track. What??? For example, the vocal track in one song, which is all set up with its plugins and such as Audio Track 2, will produce no sound unless I drag it to another audio track, say Audio Track 3 or 4. It is bonkers!! What the heck is that about?
This is what happened in all of the projects affected by my source audio rearrangement. Sure, I could easily just copy my channel strip settings to a new track, relocate my audio region to it, and hope all goes well thereforth, but I would much rather get to the root of this oddity so it doesn't somehow buck me later.
What do you think it could be?
Oh yea, in one of the projects, all the other audio tracks seem to play back fine, except for the recorded bass track. Okay, so just to check, I drag the bass audio to another track--yep, it does play back. But I realized that the track that held the bass region (Track 4) is actually playing back the vocals (which are also playing back normally in their intended track). I initially didn't notice the extra vocals underneath my normal vocals track, with their low-key bass plug-in settings. Funny thing is, there isn't even a region on Track 4 any more! How is it playing anything back at all?? Not that it makes any more sense that it would be playing back vocals with a bass region.
Also, the fact that Logic Pro keeps quitting unexpectedly does not inspire much confidence. This has just been lately, and I've only been playing with these projects lately, trying to figure this out.
Is my Logic haunted? =(
I welcome any and all objective suggestions! I am feeling just the slightest bit overwhelmed by this odd behavior.
Thanks!
(i checked, but did not see that the tracks were muted in anyway, including the region itself)

I figured something out that might tell someone what I did to screw things up!
I think I did something to mess up the environment or something. I know this much now: When I created a new project, I created 6 new audio tracks. I noticed that a piece of previously recorded audio that I imported into the project would only play back on ever other track! I than noticed that on the every other track (that would not play back the audio when it was dragged to it), there was neither a single circle (indicating mono for the track) or the two overlapping circles (indicating stereo for the track) beneath the channel's level meter.
There must be some significance to this that I do not quite understand!
I then went back and launched several of my problematic projects to see if the tracks that would not play back audio also did not display either the mono or stereo circles on their respective channel strips. They did not! What kind of global setting did I change that would cause this?
There was one project that had one track that bared neither mono or stereo an played back its audio (Although, in this same project, there was another track that bared neither symbol that was not playing back its audio). Anyway, I noticed something that was weird to me, but will likely tell someone what the heck I must have inadvertently done to cause all of this:
When I change one audio track (that bares the mono symbol) into stereo, the next audio track (that didn't display either symbol) seems like it is combined with the previous track's output!
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know this is a very old topic but this, "Clicking noise before audio regions with third party AU plugins" Does this happen to everyone with Logic or is this just for special Logic owners?

Ronny hughes wrote:
Ok folks just needed confirmation that it was not just me getting this.
But can i put this to you? I'm doing some Beta testing on a set of plugins and i am having loads of problems that no one else seems to be having,
So it is plugin specific i.e it doesn't happen on all 3rd party plugs and also now that you have confirmed it's not just my Mac.
I would say it's not your Mac but a combination of Logic and specific plugins.
Quick explanation...
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As I understand it from a couple of developers I've talked with (also doing beta testing) the AU spec was at some point modified to accommodate Logic's behavior. It's now up to the plugins/VI to empty buffers when Logic is stopped. Part of the noise you're hearing is leftover plugin data being dumped as Logic approaches the region and activates the plugin.
Again, this behavior is specific to Logic.
Make sure the developers you're beta testing for have the latest AU developers tools/spec.
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Unable to edit an Audio Region (just want to change gain)

Hello,
In a particular audio region I am unable to change gain in that the "Change Gain" command (as well as all the other functions) are Grayed-out FOR THIS REGION. I am in Sample Editor>Functions>Change Gain.
There are over 200 audio regions in this file. Most of them have NONE of the edit functions grayed-out.
A few other regions have all the edit functions Grayed-out except for Change gain.
Almost all of the audio regions are from apple loops. I have not edited any of the regions except for some regions ending points, and volume automation added.
Why would this one particular audio region ("Country Night") by un-editable?
(NONE of the tracks are locked.)
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Is it a file in .caf format? If so, note that compressed Audio formats can't be edited destructively. Convert to aiff/wav before.
Btw, there is a Gain function in the Region Inspector since Logic 9, so there is no need to change the gain in the sample editor anymore.

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The manual is pretty clear on how to do this but it talks in terms of one bar audio regions vs. an entire song. I'm trying to do a remix of a song that has subtle although very definate tempo variances throughout. The audio file of the original is imported into Logic and I've tried Options>Tempo>Adjust Tempo using Region Length and Locators but it's giving me one global tempo which does not match up when I compare the audio file to the click. It's not telling me where the tempo changes occur in my tempo track either. I'm wondering if it's even possible to do this. I could beatmap it? I don't know. Should be an easy thing to do.
I suppose a workaround could be to bus the audio file to an aux and then record that aux's output like I was recording it live but that seems like overkill.

The best tool for this is the beatmapping track. It's pretty easy to do, depending on your material, and it will conform Logic's clock to your audio's tempo, with appropriate tempo changes.
Once you beatmapped your track, Logic is in sync with it and you can then add sequences and use quantize etc.
If you are not sure how beat mapping works, shout back...

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Hi,
I'm having trouble finding a solution which I hope turns out to be fairly simple. Here's my problem:
I often make drum beats from audio files that looks something like this:
What I'd like to know is if there is a way to highlight say all of the snare audio regions and snap or quantize the "audio region start" to the nearest beat or division. I've been looking everywhere and I just can't seem to find a way to do it to multiple regions at once. It seems like somehting that should maybe be fairly simple. Turning "Flex" on doesn't work as that quantizes the transients as opposed to just the start of each audio region.
The reason I ask is that sometimes when zooming in fully, it turns out some of the regions are not exactly on the grid line.
I hope I made sense there and I'd appreciate any help. Many thanks in advance.

Hi
The "traditional" way to quantise audio regions is to use the quantise functionality in the Event List.
CCT

Midi notes or audio region do not play at the start of a bar?

I am having an issue with a midi loop I have created. If I let the song play a bit until it reaches the loop, logic works just as you'd expect it and everything plays correctly. But if I stop the song, or if I set the song into cycle mode so it repeats, the very first note of the midi loop is ignored, and not played.
So for example, if I set the cursor to start at bar 9, the starting point of the loop, the first midi note is not played. But if a set the cursor at bar 8 and let it play into bar 9 and the loop, all of the notes in the loop play correctly.
I found the following description of the same problem on another forum, but it seemed to suggest that there is no fix for this, which if true, seems kinda bad for a pro application. I was wondering if anyone knew of a workaround or fix to this, because its really annoying missing the notes, or having to expand the cycle region just to get all of the notes to play. Here is the text from the other forum:
_Logic doesn't play the very start of my audio regions when I start playback_
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I'm having the same problem.
one workaround is to change the delay to +1/192=20 in the delay box in inspector on the given midi track...but this is a terrible thing to have to do over and over again.
PLEASE help if you know what's going on.....I ran logic on my macbook and this NEVER happened. I just bought a macbook pro 2.5 and it's apparently now an issue?
I have searched the net for fixes, and none work....logic does have a pre-play buffer, but it's range isnt large enough to buffer the instrument I'm using...which means the range is less than 1/192...come on....that's messed.
If anyone figures this out, please message me back at [email protected]

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I just today learned about beat mapping in Logic. I used it on one song that i'd recorded previously without a click track and it worked like a charm. I'm trying to use it on a different song now (same situation: previously recorded with no click) but for some reason with this song, it's changing the speed/length of my audio region to match the metronome instead of changing the speed of the metronome to match the speed of the audio. What's going on?!
Thanks a bunch.
David
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Well after many hours of searching through Logic Forums and flipping through the Logic Reference Manual, all to no avail, I've finally figured out what the problem was. I needed to uncheck the "Follow Te(mpo)" option in the Region Parameter Box for the region I was trying to beat map. The beat mapping process wasn't actually changing the length/speed of my audio region like I said it was in my initial post; it was simply playing over it slower or faster in order to preserve the audio-to-tempo ratio as I made the tempo slower or faster. All I needed to do was uncheck that little box and now beat mapping works exactly as described in the Reference Manual. WHY ON EARTH is the "Follow Te(mpo)" box not mentioned when discussing beat mapping?! More importantly, why is it not mentioned ANYWHERE in the entire Reference Manual?!?!? NOT ONCE!!! unbelievably frustrating.
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Im trying to overlap multiple audio regions on one track, so that the next one starts before the previous one ends but when i do this, each consecutive overlap basically replaces the remaining region of the one before it. to be more specific in order to maybe paint a better picture of what i am asking... i am creating machine gun audio for a video clip and i have a loop of a single shot plus the shell falling to the ground. im trying to overlap the loops so that the single shot of each come together in rapid fire succession to create the machine gun firing sound, but i want the sound of the shell falling for each shot to continue to play under the multiple copies of the overlapping loop. the problem is, when i overlap multiple loops, its not finishing the noise of the shell falling to the ground for each shot, it only plays the falling shell at the very end when there is no other overlap. i hope i did an ok job explaining what i am asking, haha trying to type this out was much more difficult that initially anticipated. thanks in advance for any help.

That's normal. Audio tracks are not polyphonic. Use several tracks or EXS24.
Christian

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I think i must of changed settings accidentally or somewhat, because prior to this, there was no problem. However, now when i record i cant see soundwaves (im not sure what they're called) in the audio region. please help, its really giving me problems cos i really wna record audio.

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2gHz Core Duo, OS x 10.6.2 GB 09, no innaface just core audio~

goatfoot wrote:
one on the top of window that is the standard track with no effects.
the "timeline"
the second one is the audio region that is larger and at the bottom of window.
the "track editor"
it appears when i try to slide upper track to new track in the upper area.
slide the "track" or slide a "region"?
i can resize the audio region with hand icon but it will not reduce in size.
grab the bottom left or right edge of the region and drag
SOMETIMES the audio region will remove itself when i slide the upper track down but MOST times it will not remove.
sorry, no idea what this means.

HELP!! Certain Audio Regions aren't playing

HELP!! certain audio regions in my session just suddenly stopped playing. other ones around them play its like they're on mute but they're not! I dont know wat to do

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Go to the "My Songs" view to save your current project, quit GarageBand, and the open the "Settings" app. Scroll down to the applications and select "GarageBand". Enable "Reset".
Check, how much free memory is left on your iPad. Playing certain instruments requires a lot of memory. You may need to make more space by deleting apps or documents, i.e. videos, photos, music.
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