Flex for gaming.

Hi,
Is that a good idea to use flex for 3D gaming? if yes, please give me some links for resources.

I don't think so

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3D Interactive UI, Papervision w/ Flex for Games and more- hands on, from intro to expert

In SF on 11/20.
more info at:
http://papervision.proj.com
A 10 hour bootcamp in Flex to learn 3D using Papervision.
Taught by professional trainer Vic Cekvenich.
We will cover hands on labs from scratch:
* Setting up the SDK
* Warm up: 2D Motion
* 3D Primitives
* 3D Math
* Materials
* Make a complex objects (Collada)
* Interactions
* Shadows/Reflection
* Flash 10
* Calling a remote (web java/data ) service
* and more.
This is an intensive all day class stressing techniques
useful for gaming and traditional 3D. You will walk out comfortable
creating simple 3D games or a Rich UI Web site.
You must provide your own laptop, over 1 GB ram recommended.
Power will be provided for each laptop. We will mail you class prep
materials on a usb stick 10 days before the class. You will also
have support after the class.

In SF on 11/20.
more info at:
http://papervision.proj.com
A 10 hour bootcamp in Flex to learn 3D using Papervision.
Taught by professional trainer Vic Cekvenich.
We will cover hands on labs from scratch:
* Setting up the SDK
* Warm up: 2D Motion
* 3D Primitives
* 3D Math
* Materials
* Make a complex objects (Collada)
* Interactions
* Shadows/Reflection
* Flash 10
* Calling a remote (web java/data ) service
* and more.
This is an intensive all day class stressing techniques
useful for gaming and traditional 3D. You will walk out comfortable
creating simple 3D games or a Rich UI Web site.
You must provide your own laptop, over 1 GB ram recommended.
Power will be provided for each laptop. We will mail you class prep
materials on a usb stick 10 days before the class. You will also
have support after the class.

Which Imac would be better for gaming?

So i've got a choice between these two models -
£1329.60
3.1GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.9GHz
TB Serial ATA Drive @ 5400 rpm
8gb Ram
NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 1GB GDDR5
Apple care
27 inch model
3.2GHz quad-core Intel Core i5
Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
8GB (two 4GB) memory
1TB hard drive1
NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M with 1GB video memory
Apple care
£1407.60
Basically, the decision is down to, do I want a slightly better graphics card and bigger screen, or a smaller screen and better processer?
I just want to gauge opinions, i'll be using it as my day to day computer as well, some video editing, but nothing too strenuous. How big is the difference in graphic and processing powers.
Thanks for your help

With all due respect the question was "which iMac would be better for gaming?". Key word here is 'better', not 'perfect', not 'ideal'; just 'better'. Unqualified answers and/or sweeping statements do very little to contribute to a discussion, let alone answer the question under consideration.

New Macbook Pro 2014 for Gaming / casual use

Hello there! I currently have a 2011 13" Macbook Pro with
Intel HD Graphics 3000 512 MB
16GB RAM
500GB Harddrive
and a 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5
I really like to play video games but with this current setup ^ its very sluggish and I get very low FPS
I'm considering getting the 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display and with the 3.0GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost up to 3.5GHz
My questions:
Will this computer be able to handle a constant 60fps in most games? (Borderlands 2, portal 2, Bioshock Infinite)
And I've heard other places that this computer also has a Nividia graphics card that it switches over to when you play anything that requires more than the Intel 4000 that it comes with.
Thanks for the help!

Hi there!
No it wont.
Macbook Pro's hardware are mediocre for gaming. In your specific case, the 13" does not offer the possibility of a dedicated graphics card, only comes with Intel Iris. The 15" one does, the NVIDIA GT 750M with 2gb, yet it's weak for gaming above 40-50 fps, also dual-core processors are not very powerful these days either and you will most likely experience heating issues on intensive gaming sessions. If you like gaming Mac is not very efficient for it, unless you get a mac pro, but of course you would loose portability. The 27" iMac can be set with the GT 780m, it has 4gb but its still weak since its a mobile graphic chip as well, even the 5k iMac uses almost identical hardware setup than the regular iMac but with an AMD chip (also 4gb ram), while the 5k looks great with such hardware it is unable to handle smooth gaming on that resolution as well.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not here to trash Apple, at the office we work with around 8 to 10 macbook pros but none of them, not even high end ones are able to game smoothly, in fact, some games run better on windows via bootcamp than OS X.
Hope it helps.

I want to instal windows 7 using bootcamp on my mac book pro and how large do i have to make the partition if i want to use it for gaming?

i want to instal windows 7 using bootcamp on my mac book pro and how large do i have to make the partition if i want to use it for gaming?

"At least 16 GB of free space on the disk onto which you’re installing for 32-bit, or 20 GB for 64-bit (for Microsoft Windows and Windows-based applications)."
That's what Apple proposes in here Boot Camp: System requirements for Microsoft Windows
Personally I would double these amounts and add to that the diskspace needed for your Windows games.
Stefan

IMac for Gaming using Win XP Pro

Early 2006 I purchased an iMac 2.0 w/ 2G RAM using x1600 ATI card w/ beta boot camp using XP Pro for gaming purposes.
Now I want to expand my horizons a bit to a new iMac with the same idea as above.
My gaming includes Battlefield 2, COD4, and soon Crysis. So here is the system I want:
iMac 3.06 w/ nvidia 8800 GS which I read is NOT the 8800 but some other nvidia card. I want to expand to 4G RAM, BUT replacing all the RAM with either Crucial or Kingston for Dual Channel. Will XP Pro be stable w/ 4G dual channel? Will this system utilize DX 10. w/ the nvidia card on this Mac? If I get Crysis, I want to be able to set everything on HIGH. Are there any Driver problems that I should be aware of?

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Can I "do" Flex for free?

Excuse if I have posted this in the wrong area... I am
looking over all the Flex info and am a bit confused on
a) all the pieces involved to "do" Flex, and
b) what is free and what is going to cost big $$$.
I see there is an express (dumbed-down?) version of the
Eclipse IDE tool which appears to be free. And some components that
are free (for any use?) if they are limited to a single CPU . And I
also see there is a Flex server for $20,000! So if I wanted to
create an internal flex app for my small business, is that possible
for free? What if I wanted to create an app for our
"outward-facing" web site for our clients? and what if I wanted to
create a Flex app for another client for their web site? I guess I
am really asking what kind of $$$ would it cost to Live in Flex,
and if this is more for enterprise budgets and not small shops or
free lance developers.
Thanks!
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Hey Man,
I hear you it can be a bit confusing. So lets break it down a
bit. There are several flex products and each has a couple
versions. So the first one is the Flex 2 SDK. This is freely
available and includes all the framework files and a command line
compiler. This allows you to use notepad or any other text editor
to write your mxml and as code and compile it. This is completly
free on non-restrictice of what you do with the swf you create.
However tools are a big part of any development language so
the next product is Flex Builder 2. Flex Builder (FB) is an IDE
(Integrated Development Environment) that has all sorts of tools
for writing your code including a visual wysiwyg editor for your
flex application. Its has a built in debugger and lots of features.
Flex Builder 2 costs $499.
Both the flex sdk and flex builder allow you to create flex 2
swf applications which you can deploy to as many servers as you
like, they get uploaded just like a swf made in the Flash 8 IDE..
Or heck sell them at your discretion (the swf not the sdk or
flexbuilder ). With both of these you can communicate with a
backend server using RPC (remote procedure call) invocations. These
can be done over http using the httpService, soap using webService,
and AMF using RemoteObject to talk to ColdFusion.
Then next peice of the software puzzle is the Charting
Components. By themselves I think they are around 300 dollars. but
You can also buy them bundled with flex builder and get both
products for (I think) around 50 less than buying them seperate.
The last peice is the Flex Data Services. This is a J2EE
server and allows for exceptional functionality including
messaging, colloaboration, and data syncronization. There is a free
version of this application taht is limited to 1 cpu servers and
100 connections. This product is called FDS Express. Then there is
the full version of this server that costs in the range ow $20,000.
So as you see there are a couple routes you can take to use
Flex for free, but to get the "Enterprise" features and tooling you
will need to shell out a little dow. Depending on what you are
looking for, it could be alot of dow :)
Hope that helps,
simeon

Macbook Pro and 30" Cinema display for gaming?

Does anyone know if a Macbook Pro (17" i7 2010) would be powerful enough to drive the 30" Cinema display (or a Dell 30") specifically for gaming to a reasonable performance FPS with a game such as Call of Duty 4?
Would I have to knock down the resolution from the native 2560x1600 and if so is the image quality still acceptable or blurry? I realize I need either the dual link adaptor or the display port to achieve the max resolution but just wondering if it is asking too much of the graphics card?
Thanks in advance, any info much appreciated.
Rick.

Hi. The graphics card will be able to handle it. I would suggest using a Min Display Port to HDMI adapter. Most new adapters will even transfer the sound too so you can use the speakers built speakers on the TV.
I often use my 2008 model MacBook Pro with a Mini Display Port to HDMI on my 62'' Samsung DLP. Perfect 1080p quality.

Is the MacBook Pro with retina display good for gaming?

I was looking at the MacBooks and I was thinking about the one with retina display. I wanted to know if it was good for gaming also. Just something like skyrim or maybe WOW.

If you're not a heavy gamer, then yes it will be great.
I play WoW at full retina display with the performance I noted above - if you have trouble, you could always revert to 1440x900 just for WoW and Skyrim.
I know WoW lets you choose a resolution within the game so nothing wo worry about outside - not sure about Skyrim but maybe so?
I am a light gamer. I used to have a 2011 MBA, just an off the shelf model with no upgrades, and it played WoW very well for its size etc.
An iMac would be great too. For the price of a rMBP you could go for an iMac for games/home use and a base spec MBA for working on outside...?
However iMacs are pretty outdated atm - not allowed to say much on here but might wanna wait for something to happen...

How good is a Macbook Pro with dual video cards for gaming?

I've been a PC guy my whole life (aside from my iPhone which I love). My gf has been pushing me to try out a mac and considering how my PC laptops have a pretty good track record of dying on me or encountering some other problems after a year or two, I can't help but consider making the investment. The only thing is, I'm a big gamer and usually get the latest games. I'm not super tech savvy though I do my research and get a sense of what kind of specs are better and worse.
In terms of gaming, I always assumed that more ram = better. In that sense, I'm a little put off that even the most expensive MacBook Pro only comes with 4 gigs of ram (which is what my year and a half old laptop has now) especially when it seems most newer laptops have 8 gigs minimum for a fraction of the price (and 16 gigs if you're willing to spend as much as you would on the most expensive macbook pro). Does RAM somehow work differently on a Mac or is it truly that little?
Also, how does the whole dual video card thing work, does that mean I'd be having the power of those two cards put together?
Personally, I've been leaning towards the Asus G53SX-NH71 because I can buy it for less than the cost of the cheapest macbook pro and as far as gaming purposes go it seems to have more power than even the most expensive Macbook which costs over double the price.
Am I missing something here? Do the dual video cards really bring that much to the table or for gaming purposes am I better off with a PC?
Thanks.

I've been watching this forum for years, and I'll have to say that gamers are not a big group around here. A few things. First, getting 8GB of RAM for the MacBook Pro is cheap. Most people either don't care, pay Apple to do it, or, like me, DIY. The max you put in a MBP is 8GB, so no 16GB, unless you were looking at the iMac or MacPro.
Second, there is no dual video card in a MacBook Pro. There is an integrated video card, an Intel HD3000, which shares RAM with the CPU, or a discrete video card, an AMD, various versions on different MBP's. The Intel is for low battery usage. The AMD is more powerful, and it's to be used when you've got power. The video card has more applications than just gaming, but also in video and photo editing.
No one here is going to talk you into one platform or another. If you are only going to game in Windows, then it's a waste to get a Mac. If you're going to game in Windows but want the Mac side to do everything else, the build quality and elegance of the Mac will far exceed most products out there. You can run Windows in Boot Camp natively, and as I understand, gamers love it, because the Mac is actually a better Windows machine than most Windows machines. But I don't play games, so I have no proof.
So the choice is yours. And we could argue all day long about the side by side comparison of a cheap Windows machine vs. the Mac. You are using the price vs. price comparison that is a false dichotomy, ignoring how one values various features. For example, the trackpad on a MacBook Pro far exceeds (and I mean light year exceeds) anything on any other laptop out there.
I spent 10 minutes answering your question. I'm not debating you on x vs. y. The choice is totally on what you're going to do. Most of us are trying to contribute to the world, so gaming is low on the needs list.

Macbook Pro 15'' options for gaming and college

Hi there Apple Community!
I'm having trouble choosing the best cost benefit for a new Mac. I'm a college student and my main priority is to have a mobile unit to cary with me for classes. I'm also a gamer, and since this will be my main computer I'd like to have one that could also run games like Civ 5 and WoW smoothly. Therefore I believe the best option for me would be the cheapest 15'' MBP.
However, both the price and the extra weight scare me. I'm not confortable with walking around with a R$ 6,600.00 notebook (about US$ 3,300.00 - I'm in Brazil and thanks to taxes all the prices are overrated ).
I'm studying options to reduce the risk of walking with such a valuable piece of hardware around while giving me what I need where I need, and after some time I've matured the idea of having more than 1 device.
My first option would be to get me cheapest 13'' MBA along with a Mac Mini - the one with the Radeon 6630M videocard on it. They cost together about the same as the 15' MBP, and would give me both a lighter option to go to college and a dedicated videocard for games, though this card is weaker than the one in the MBP - and I'm not sure how well this card would handle the games I want to play.
Another option would be to get myself the both cheapest 21'' iMac (with the same videocard as the MBP) and the cheapest MBA. This would be a bit more expensive than the MBP, but no big deal, and I'd still have both a decent unit at home for games and the mobility I need for college.
My last option would be to get the 13'' MBA and use the rest of the money to assemble a gaming Windows 7 PC. This would be my last resort, though. I know I can assemble a terrible machine with this budget, but I believe I could have what I need - decent (not extreme) gaming experience at home - from a Mac, even if I have to use Bootcamp.
I'd like to know from you who own Macs what you think about these options. I intent to make my purchase this month or the next, as my classes begin in August. What would u think to be the best combination? Or is the MBP the best option? Thanks in advance for any thoughts.

Thanks for the reply, OGELTHORPE. Refurbished products were the 1st thing I thought when I saw the cost of a 15''MBP. Unfortunately there's not even a link for this store in Brazil's store. I'm not sure, but I believe this is because of the mistrurst we brazillians have upon refurbished equipments sold by many other companies that fail to meet quality specs - some companies even try to push them as 'new' to the customers... I know that US Apple follows refurbishing rules to the letter - not hard to find people around the web saying that they got a nice deal for buying a refurbished Apple and that they would do it again. I wish I could buy a refurbished unit from the american Apple Store and have it delivered to Brazil, but I believe this is way too much to ask for the 'free shipping' they offer...
As for gaming, I do like it, but I'm not looking for a gaming station - otherwise I'd look for a PS3, Xbox 360, etc. I do want a computer to complement my studies at home - this is my main focus after all, and it would be desirable if this new computer could also run some games for me to play when I can.
I'm just not satisfied with the Intel HD 3000's performance (some people say they are even weaker than the previous nVidia models they replace). This is why I'm trying to get my hands on one of those new Radeon videocards.
Anyway I've heard that Apple may show some new products on this week's presentation at WWDC.Let's hope something good is coming.

New desktop computer for gaming as well as normal stuff

I am looking for a new desktop computer that I could use for gaming--such as League of Legends and anything else I might find in the coming months/years, as well as eventually being able to hook up ps3 games eventually, but probably not right away. I am looking for suggestions on what specific systems to get and/or what specifications for a desktop i should be looking at. I am entirely new at this and could use help from every direction. Any help is appreciated

The biggest things you need to look for are CPU(for gaming and your budget look for Core i7's or AMD x6's), RAM - most gaming computers come with 6-8GB now, and a discrete video card. I am partial to nVidia chips, but an ATI card will work just the same.
As for brand, I prefer ASUS for gaming machines as they do have a gaming line.
Are you going to be looking for a package, monitor, tower, etc? Or do you already have a monitor?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Essentio+Desktop+/+AMD+Phenom%26%23153%3B+II+X6+Processor+/+8GB+M...
Just at a quick glance, this is a decent system to kinda base what you're looking for off of. The CPU is decent, good amount of RAM. The graphics could be a bit stronger, though you could always upgrade that.
If you like my post, or solution to your issue/question, go ahead and click on the little star by my name and/or accept the post as the Solution. It makes me happy.
I'm NOT an employee of Best Buy, or Geek Squad, though I did work as an Agent for a year 5 years ago. None of my posts are to be taken as the official stance that Best Buy will take on your situation. My advice is just that, advice.
Unfortunately, that's the bad luck of any electronic, there's going to be bad Apples... wait that's a horrible pun.

Optimize Mac for Gaming with Bootcamp?

Hi, I have a Mid 2012 MacBook Pro with Windows 7 installed using Bootcamp. Because I'm a student my parents aren't exactly thrilled with the idea of getting me a Gaming PC, but since I'm not a hardcore gamer I think I can make do with what I have. How would I be able to optimize my gaming experience with my Mac? In other words, whether it is with software, or upgrading some hardware, how can I make my Mac usable for gaming. And trust me, I'm not hoping for 60FPS having games on the highest setting kind of thing, something that is decent quality is all I want. I feel that my Mac's current specs and hardware is almost at where I want it, but some optimization to increase efficiency and performance would be really nice. Thanks in advance!

you are stuck with whatever graphics it has which is usually the main resource.
Did you buy with just base RAM? which processor? you can't change the cpu.
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/macbook_pro/index-macbookpro.html
RAM Upgrade Kits:
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade/DDR3_160 0MHz_SDRAM
Some SSD tests http://www.barefeats.com/hard193.html
https://www.maxupgrades.com/istore/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ ID=437&ParentCat=367
Windows can't be installed on an external drive but it can be cloned and booted off Thunderbolt interface.
Boot Camp
A PC with i7-4790 and 16GB + SSD (case, psu, copy of Windows) and X89 motherboard would of course give you freedom and not have to dual boot, plus you get to choose the GPU you need. Windows on Mac often run hot, hotter than they do already. And later you can upgrade just the parts you need to.

2.4Ghz Quadcore, 8GB RAM, 650M Graphics.. Good enough for Gaming?

Hi Guys,
Im looking at buying the retina macbook pro with the above specs, i like to play call of duty 2/4 and counterstrike, would i be able to game comfortably with these specs, i.e high fps/smooth, i wont just be using macbook for gaming as im a graphics designer but i do love occasional multiplayer game.
many thanks

Pete77777 wrote:
do processors make a difference to fps ingame?
Not as much as the performance of the graphics chip, because that is what does all the heavy lifting as far as rending on the screen. Intel HD 3000, 4000 etc., only graphics is really poor as it's only CPU based.
It's really not advised to use a expensive Mac laptop for 3D gaming, especially the Retina because it's sealed.
The reason is the hotter the Mac gets, the more air it has to draw in to cool the machine, which more vent clogging dust it inhales which overheats the machine and tends to shorten it's lifespan. Also using the inferior bubble membrane keyboard too much tends to wear it out.
If you want to 3D game, either buy a dedicated Windows 7 3D gaming tower so you can clean the dust out, upgrade the graphics card and be compatible with everyone else, use tougher keyboards (clicky clack types) and so forth, or if your budget can't do that and the Mac, then a PS3 or a XBox.
3D games are always improving, new ones come out and require better video cards, you can't upgrade a video card in a laptop. So you won't be playing for long.
OS X changes every year, so it breaks games. Windows 7 will remain so until 2020.
http://www.cbscores.com/index.php?sort=ogl&order=desc
TigerDirect will help you build a gaming PC, and with this video card you'll likely never have to upgrade it.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/campaigns/deals.asp?campaignid=2524

Costumizing a mbp for gaming/video

Hi could someone tell me what would be the best costumization for gaming and video editing/playback for the macbook pro? And would a regular macbook be just as good in proformance? I am trying to spend as little money as possible while getting good proformance!
Right now i have a G5 imac with 2GH, 2x512mb memory, and a ATI Radeon 9600 128mb it cant play call of duty 2 without lag or it says "file handle none free" Im assuming that means not enough video memory?

for video editing, you really need the 2gb of memory. But don't go 2gb from apple. The most you should get from apple is 1gbx1dimm because everything above that is way overpriced. You can get a 1gb stick for about $80 and upgrade it yourself.
If you want the best deal, I would go with the 2.16 15"/100gb 7200rpm HD (need a fast HD for video capturing)/1gbx1dimm. I think that's $2599 non-edu.
If you want the 2.0ghz to save money...then just go with the cheapest memory option but still get the 7200rpm hard drive. then buy 2 1gb sticks of ram after-market. I purchaed transcend memory and it works fine and has a warranty.

Flex for gaming.

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