Flex Time and Groupings

Is there a way of keeping Flex Timing from editing all the tracks that are within the same grouping other that removing the group from the track being modified? I think it's a great idea for Flex Timing to modify all grouped tracks simultaneously, but when Group Clutch is disabled it should disable the Flex Edit feature in this regard as well. I think this needs an updated fix.

Firstly make one instrument the "groove-master" so to speak. You'll have to decide on this to start with. Once you are done editing this "reference track" you can start synch all other material to it, one at the time. Depending on the complexity of your material, you can use different alignment techniques to accomplish this, such as tempo curving and flexing to name but a few. If you are not sure how to do that, you'll have to hop on the Internet to find useable guidance.
And from a producers point of few I would also consider if it wasn't more efficient and musically rewarding to get a new record session going?
MTC
Have a nice day!

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Clicks and pops with flex time and fades

I am getting clicks and pops on tracks using flex time and fades. Any suggestions?
Thanks

Probably the simplest solution to this bug (it appears to not be creating zero crossed edits when creating a fade over flexed audio) is to cut the area to be faded into small region and render (or bounce in place) the small section, then fade it.

Flex time and minor tempo adjustments

Hey y'all!
So I'm working on a project in which vintage analog synths were run through tape before being digitized and brought into logic. Because tape is tape, this introduced some drift into the tempo. Instead of it being a nice clean 120bpm, it's 120.0103 and I want to use flex time to slow it down by 0.0103.
So when I have the flex algorithm set to polyphonic (or anything other than "off") and I have my flex markers in place, I'm expecting to see that when I change the project tempo to 120bpm, the waveform turns orange, indicating that the audio has been stretched.
The audio is NOT turning orange and when I listen to it, it doesn't sound like any adjustments have been made. Is Logic just disregarding this tempo adjustment as negligible?? Or is it actually stretching the audio but there's just a bug in how it's being displayed?
Thanks in advance for any help y'all can provide!

is it actually stretching the audio but there's just a bug in how it's being displayed?
Logic is indeed stretching the audio. It's just not showing the color change. This is because the tempo change is so slight. You will notice the same thing if you drag the edge of the region to cause a tempo change to only this region. If you zoom in close in order to make a very small change, you'll notice that the color change doesn't happen as soon as you start dragging. The color change only appears after your dragging creates a change of a certain magnitude.
So it's the same phenomenon, whether you're changing the project tempo, or just changing the tempo of one region. The threshold seems to be about 0.5%. Is this a bug, or is it just a design choice? I think probably the latter.

Flex time and fades at the same time?

I can't seem to use fades and flex pitch at the same time on an audio track? Is this a bug or is this the way it should be? Or am I missing something? Or is there a way to work around this?

You need to do the flexing, bounce in place and continue with fade work. Or vice versa. Only heaven knows, when this will be fixed.
DaCaptain

Is there a way to completely undo all flex time mods to an audio file?

I have an audio drum track that i thoroughly destroyed messing around with flex time and audio quantizing. I believe these are nondestructive edits, but i can't find anyway to get it totally back to its original state. Is this possible?
Thanks

No you can bounce in place and ease processing..
but thats still non-destructive cause logic creates a new file.
I'm sure our friend has a file about somewhere just doesn't know how to get to it
TXBDan are you looking for the audio file name thats the same as your region file?
If so than try remembering what the original file was called and look for that.
if you can't remember the name than try organise the files by date in your audio file folder and checking the files that were created on the day of the recording..

Need flex time help, lots of songs, lots of BPM's multiple tempos

Newbie here, trying to finally make the switch from Pro Tolls to Logic and flex time really sold me but I'm having some growing pains that I need to speed up for my current project.
I have about 20 songs that I need to:
first, find the bpm for each (quickly)
second, be able to mark them in a way that the bpm for each song would change to match the tempo track (which will fluctuate through out the editing process)
third, some how still have control of the anchor point in flex time which seems to get locked
In the end I am trying to create a remix of multiple songs that start off with different bpm's and fluctuating tempo.
I am able to do most of this but I think I am missing some steps, or perhaps the order of steps, that would make this process go much faster. I have worked other programs such as Ableton Live and elastic time in Pro Tools and at times it seems I can handle whole songs better in those programs than in Logic but I'm sure it more user error than the actual program.
I welcome any and all suggestions. Thanks.

Received this advice and responded on another forum but still need help.
Thanks for the response!
Had a few problems trying your suggestions.
*"Finding BPM: select the audio region and choose from the local Arrange area menu: Audio > Detect Tempo."*
Since it is a whole song and not just a part, such as drums, with well defined transients, it either can't detect the tempo or when it does it is wrong.
*"Make it follow the tempo track: Use Flex Time (in the track parameters, choose a Flex mode). "*
This would be fine if I didn't have to redefine all the transient markers as correct flex markers. Since Flex Time has problems defining the correct transient markers for complete songs it can be very time consuming.
Maybe I'm still missing something?
*"Third: what anchor? Do you mean the transient? Or the flex markers? You can move the transients in the Sample editor, and the Flex markers right on the track in Flex view (Click the Flex button in your toolbar)."*
The audio region anchor in the sample edit window, the orange arrow. I think this is some how turned off after turning on flex time and I am unable to move it. I use this to line up the first beat if there is something before the music starts, such as someone speaking or a lead in with a different tempo than the song tempo, that I would still like to keep. That way I can move the region in the arrange window and it will line up according to the first beat and not the beginning of the region. Am I making any sense?

Flex time: manual moving of some notes?

I'd like to select 3/4 notes of a guitar solo and move them up (because they are too delayed in relation to the tempo) but I can't find the way to do it. I only get a stretching effect on all previous notes. How can i do?

Received this advice and responded on another forum but still need help.
Thanks for the response!
Had a few problems trying your suggestions.
*"Finding BPM: select the audio region and choose from the local Arrange area menu: Audio > Detect Tempo."*
Since it is a whole song and not just a part, such as drums, with well defined transients, it either can't detect the tempo or when it does it is wrong.
*"Make it follow the tempo track: Use Flex Time (in the track parameters, choose a Flex mode). "*
This would be fine if I didn't have to redefine all the transient markers as correct flex markers. Since Flex Time has problems defining the correct transient markers for complete songs it can be very time consuming.
Maybe I'm still missing something?
*"Third: what anchor? Do you mean the transient? Or the flex markers? You can move the transients in the Sample editor, and the Flex markers right on the track in Flex view (Click the Flex button in your toolbar)."*
The audio region anchor in the sample edit window, the orange arrow. I think this is some how turned off after turning on flex time and I am unable to move it. I use this to line up the first beat if there is something before the music starts, such as someone speaking or a lead in with a different tempo than the song tempo, that I would still like to keep. That way I can move the region in the arrange window and it will line up according to the first beat and not the beginning of the region. Am I making any sense?

What does "Analyze audio for flex time editing" in Garage Band? It's taking so long(3 days)! and I can't shut down my pc.

What does "Analyze audio for flex time editing" in Garage Band? It's taking so long(3 days)! and I can't shut down my pc.

Did you ever figure out what was going on? i've got the same issue.
I record 2 hour choir practices then edit the talking out to make more useful accompaniments for personal practice. During my editing process my MacBk Pro (0r GarageBand) decides it needs to "Analyzing audio for Flex Time Editing". It will finish doing it and immediately start over again. I can not cancel it so I just have to force quit Garageband and lose eveeryrthing I have editied since my last Save. I've shut my mac totally off and rebooted and to no avail. Any suggestions?

'Clicks and Pops' using Flex Time?

Has anyone experienced this? Whenever I use Flex time on a vocal, I get clicks and pops, at very random places. It happens more when the vocal is powerful, (although not overclipped),
has anyone experienced something similar, and knows of a fix or a solution?
thank you.

Probably the simplest solution to this bug (it appears to not be creating zero crossed edits when creating a fade over flexed audio) is to cut the area to be faded into small region and render (or bounce in place) the small section, then fade it.

Why can't I cut and edit a track anymore without Flex Time activating by itself?

Everytime I try to cut a track Flex Time activates itself. It's like I am forced to use Flex Time even though I don't want to. If I unticked Flex Time, it keeps activates itself no matter what. This garageBand 11 is just horrible. I wanna go back to the old one

Davideprp wrote:
Everytime I try to cut a track Flex Time activates itself.
http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#noflex
This FAQ entry also offers a Minute GarageBand video tutorial
(Let the page FULLY load. The link to your answer is at the top of your screen)

Flex Time with variable tempo not working correctly.

Hey,
Has anyone else noticed that Flex Time doesn't work as intended if you have variable tempo?
To clarify, I recorded a band playing their song and then figured out their various natural tempo changes and adjusted the Global Tempo Track accordingly.
Then, the drummer recorded his part to a click on that track, obviously keeping with the natural tempo changes that the band played to.
Quantization of MIDI works just fine, as in, it matches the increases and decreases in tempo.
However, attempting to quantize an audio track using Flex Time does not work properly.
I was just wondering if there is something that I'm doing wrong or if this is a known bug.
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William

Thank you for your answers!
But there are several Problems using a dummy field in an IDOC structure. We have got a naming convension so that we can't create an IDOC-like structure named ORDRSP.ORDERS05.
But perhaps I am thinking to complex and there is an easier way to add a dummy field to an IDOC structure.
Could you perhaps also suggest a solution for that dummy field problem?
Many thanks and kind regards,
Steven

GarageBand 11 - Flex Time a real pain in the ****

Ok, in GarageBand '09 I was able to cut bits out of a MP3 file mainly from acapella but when I try do do it in GarageBand '11 I just can't do it because of this stupid Flex Time crap, it just keeps wanting to turn it on all the time and you can no longer cut out bits from MP3s I absolutely hate it. Anyone know what can be done yet?

Is anyone else puzzled as to what this zero line actually is. If I knew that it would be a lot easier to click below it.
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WORKING example of BlazeDS with Flex 3 and FlexBuilder

Can someone point me to an actual working example with BlazeDS used with Flex 3 and Eclipse?
The examples on livedocs are broken or imcomplete. Others work to varying degrees but fail at some point.
What I'd like to see is the following:
1. How to create a project using
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     b. BlazeDS
     c. Eclipse - FULL project creation and deployment instructions.
     d. An example where the project is NOT created within the BlazeDS webapp that comes with the BlazeDS/Tomcat combo.
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This shouldn't be too much to ask if Flex is to be expected to be taken seriously in data-driven applications. I've looked all over the web for weeks for something likethis and have come up with nothing. I don't need Spring or Hibernate at this point. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I'm working on a proof-of-concept at this time and the pressure is mounting to come up with something.
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here is some stuff I wrote while back(they both have recorded video you can watch);
http://ledtechdesign.com/2009/02/blazeds-tutorial-part-i-simple-remoting/
http://ledtechdesign.com/2009/02/tutorial-blazeds-simple-remoting-part-ii-flex/

Flex Time error: Too many disk I/) tasks (Elastic Audio)...

I've been using flex time to take a sample in straight time and make it swing, but I've been having playback issues. I get two different error windows 1) Extreme compress factor detected during playback (Elastic Audio) (-10025) and 2) Too many disk I/O tasks (Elastic Audio). Also, I occasionally get a loud static sound when playing the sample. I don't have this issue when in Flex mode if I only loop the sample twice, but if I try to loop it more than twice, I'll get the errors and/or the static sound. At no point do the stretches make the audio color red, so I don't think I'm over-stretching or over-compressing the audio Is there any way to solve this? Does flex time have limitations to the number of markers used?

Yeah, the I/O error is because you're basically pushing it too hard, it can't read what you're doing fast enough to process it. I got this the other day when I was trying to use flex within a take folder over multiple comped takes.
If you want to swing the audio, why don't you cut it into regions, send it to the EXS 24 and then quantise the samples with swing in the piano roll. That way you're not putting so much pressure on the processor.

Error 2032 in communication between Flex Client and WCF

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I'm trying to establish communication between Flex Client
and WCF service.
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