Flickering with Onboard Graphics on 790GX-G65

Hi Everyone,
I recently put together my own AMD based machine and am very happy with it. It's the first desktop I've had since I switched to a laptop for uni in 2004 :D.
The problem that I'm experiencing is that whenever the UAC window pops up, there is some flickering (Almost like static in an old video tape). Worse, it sometimes (Very rarely) happens even when the UAC window is not there :(. Has anyone else experienced this same problem? I did a quick search in this board before posting this and I haven't found anything similar. I have already tried the monitor with another machine (My laptop) and it does not show the same issue. It seems to me to be a problem with the on-board graphics card. I'm trying to get a DVI cable to try connecting the monitor that way. Any help would be much appreciated.
Here is some more information on the computer:
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2 GHz
Motherboard: MSI 790GX-G65, MS-7576, AMI Bios 1.3
RAM: Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 1333 MHz 2 GB x 2 sticks (KVR1333D3N9/2G)
Video Card: None (Using onboard graphics)
Hard Drive: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB 7200 RPM SATA (HD103SJ)
Wireless LAN Card: D-Link DWA-510 Wireless G PCI WLAN card
Sound Card: None (Using onboard sound)
HP DVD1260 DVD-Writer
Monitor: Samsung 2233SWPlus (21.5" Widescreen), connected via normal VGA connector (This one)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
PSU: Corsair TX-750 750W 80+ PSU
I hope to be getting an XFX 5870 soon, so hopefully this will disappear and won't plague me then ;D.

Quote from: Hans on 04-February-10, 01:31:23
@websherpa: different board, start your own topic. Do not hijack this one.
Actually, I will post elsewhere if necessary, but I respectfully submit that I did NOT intend a hijack. I did not ask readers to find a solution to my particular problem. I indicated that I have a very similar problem and am seeking a solution through experimentation. My solution may help this users issue. I think it's likely a problem that's not entirely board specific (since I have found numerous posts about this very same issue with onboard Radeon chips and Windows 7 and x64) and therefore an understanding of a solution for any one set-up or combination may result in a solution for all. I provided system information solely to indicate whether there is some common causality. I think it's only really appropriate for the original author to determine whether a post is off topic or not unless a post is obviously way off base (your mileage obviously differs).
My appologies to lohita if you think I was trying to hijack your post. I was simply trying to contribute to see if there is a common cause.
Bas: you have a very good point. "Patient: Doctor, Doctor it hurts when I do THIS! Doctor: Well...then don't do THAT."

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nt650
I could understand the psu struggling if i had load of othe things running off it, but it's just the board and chip.
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And who created IO-meter and AHCI?
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That's not a lot, should be way above 40MB/sec.
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Max Transfer [MB/s] 109.7:109.6
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Samsung SyncMaster 245B Plus connected through DVI on the onboard Radeon HD3300[/li]
Thanks in advance!

Ok seeing how nobody knows the answer to your problems and which I know, nobody wants to be in a position where a bad flash has gone awry. I have to tell everyone here that MSI has screwed up bigtime on its latest bios revision for this mainboard! there seems to be a fatal error when flashing with the M-flash. MSI seriously needs to add a note to the new .150 bios and add DO NOT FLASH THIS BIOS WITH M-FLASH AS IT WILL BRICK YOUR MOTHERBOARD, USE HQ MSI USB TOOL INSTEAD well thats the sad truth about it all. I was in your same position and all of this could have been avoided with a little note attached to the new bios update. Now here´s the good news you can recover it with the help of some czech programmers and a little ingenuity. follow the trail and put it all together in order to learn how to flash the damaged bios through the spi diagnostic port, no need to desolder or anyother physical hack. heres a diagram of the boards diagnostic port, numbers are based on a parallel header. you will need 4 150 ohm resistors 1/4 watt, skip the 1uf cap in the schematic from here http://www.fccps.cz/download/adv/frr/spi/msi_spi.html as you do not need an external power source. VCC is unused in our case as the motherboard still boots standby power. Run CWSDPMI.EXE before SPIPGM.EXE
SChematic in order to build the cable
the following commands are used to identify, erase and finally flash the dead bios chip
SPIPGM.exe /i
SPIPGM /e
SPIPGM /p bios.120 (i used bios version 1.2 to be on the safe side)
MSI JSPI1 PIN HEADER ASSIGNMENT
Vcc |o o| Vcc <-- (both not used)
10 SO |o o| SI 9
7 CS# |o o| SCLK 8
GND |o o| GND 18
n.c. |o |
`---'
summary
1. Build an SPI Cable and install header pins on jspi1 port
2. Leave the computer connected in standby power and attach the cable to the jspi1 pinout and attach the parrallel end to another computer booting DOS (for example I built a custom freedos bootdisc with said programs)
3. run the spi server then run the spi software
4. detect, erase, flash
5turn pc on and learn from your mistakes
Optional flash the new 150 bios with the HQ MSI USB TOOL!
Cheers , RadiatedAnt

790GX-G65 will not post

I have been through pretty much all of these forums posts relevant to the 790GX-G65 and AMD Phenom II cpu combination trying to get my 4 sticks of OCZ 1333 gaming RAM to work in any stable configuration and my board appears to have finally given up the ghost. It now refuses to post no matter which RAM chip I place in the first slot and whether the CMOS has been reset. I reduced the load on the PSU by removing the radeon 4850 and using the integrated graphics but no joy. I have also tried some 1GB patriot Ram sticks that I was using for a couple of months before upgrading the RAM (I am regretting that now) and nothing works. I wasn't even trying to overclock the system, just get a stable 8GB for some gaming and Photo editing.
This board is going to be returned to the supplier but for future reference could someone shed some light on the function of the five LEDs beside the RAM slots. LED DB1 (someone called it LED Debug1 in anther post) and LED1-4 as I take it they are diagnostic LEDs but I could not find any mention of them in my manual (yes it does get read occasionally). They might be of help in figuring out problems like I have experienced.
Any help would be appreciated

Quote from: Henry on 06-April-10, 16:19:13
Another thing for you to keep in mind is that you will find that AMD systems are much better if you only use 2 sticks of RAM and not 4 and spec'd for AMD instead of Intel.
It seems you are another one. "Each module is 100% hand-tested for quality assurance and compatibility with the latest Intel P35 motherboards"
Sadly when I was buying RAM I went with the advice of the local computer specialist shop (and no dublin is not the centre of the computer modding world but this place did specialize in overclocking etc) also as I had tried ADATA modules as well before switching to the OCZ I had looked at the MSI tech sheets and found
http://www.msi.com/uploads/test_report/TR10_1739.pdf which has the platinum OCZ sticks working with 4 DIMMs, so I had made an attempt to check this out. I underestimated the differences between the platinum and gold OCZ sticks which comes down to the timings 7-7-7-20 for the platinum at 1.8v PN - OCZ3P13331G (msi approved for 4 sticks) and 9-9-9-20 for the gold at 1.7v PN - OCZ3G13331G (not working for me)
I can't remember if the outside of the box states use 1.5v RAM, I know the manual does in two places pages 1-2 and 2-6 (yes I missed them) but it seems that a lot of people have been caught out by not realizing that DDRIII has such a range of specifications. I used to think that the memory classes were fairly tightly specified (my mistake). I have never heard of any of the mainstream computer magazines or websites (ars techina, ANandTech and Toms Hardware) mentioning memory problems with these chipset/CPU/RAM combinations and there probably should be at least an "important box" added to the upgrade memory portion of the manuals linking to the approved RAM list for future AM3 systems if any of the MSI tech people are reading this.
While I am waiting for my new motherboard I suppose I should see about returning my OCZ memory for four Kingston MSI approved 1.5 v sticks, I am not ready to give up on this and return to my old macbook and mac mini.

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