FM Derivation FMDERIVE,FMRULES,RFMXPR47,RFMXPR49

Hi,
Please confirm what should be the sequence for the derivation steps in DEV environment:
FMRULES (To select pre-defind rules)
FMDERIVE (To select some function module)
RFMXPR47 (conversion program)
RFMXPR49 (Conversion program)
or
RFMXPR47
RFMXPR49
FMRULES
FMDERIVE
How derivation rules (all) can be transported. I am using SCC1 and getting error. As DEV client does not have data , is it possible to run conversion program after tranporting FMDERIVE rules to QA .Is there any other tool for tranport.
Please advise.
Saeed
Edited by: Saeed Ahmad on Feb 8, 2010 4:37 AM

Hi,
Usually, you do not transport the rules (the values themselves), but only the strategy. The values of the rules are updated directly in the target client. However, you can go to FMDERIVE, enter into the strategy, choose Menu - Extras - Transport and it will be transported.
Regards,
Eli

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881202 FM derivation tool: Derivation of foreign acct assignments
Symptom
Using the Funds Management (FM) derivation tool (transaction FMDERIVE),
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account assignments.
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account, the cost center, or the business area. However, the affected
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Other terms
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Reason and Prerequisites
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First thing I's do is to activate the FMDERIVE trace and see what is this commitment item derived from.
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My name is Samad Farooq , currently we are using the SAP version 4.6C.
We have Funds Management active in our system.Everything was working fine but recently this error is coming.
We had assigned all the profit&loss G/L account of expensse category with commitment item via cost element group.
To explain further any new g/l account of above mentioned category is created , along with cost element is also created. We assign this cost element to the one the groups we have mainted. Then assignment of this to Funds Management is made using FRC1.
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FMDERIVE is the transaction code for configuring the derivation rule in to ECC 6.0, FMDERIVER is the transaction code for maintain the derivation Values,
Here we have to check recent changes in to FM area and respective cost element group.

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Diagnosis
Fund From Commitment Item
No entry in a derivation rule was found for the specified source fields.
The derivation rule was set up that an error message appears when this happens.
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Commitment Item
xxxxxxx
Procedure:
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I was able to duplicate your error by creating the following.
I went to transaction FMDERIVE and created a derivation rule and named it "Fund From Commitment Item".
On the definition tab, I selected committment item (COMMIT_ITEM) for the source field and the target field selected (FUND).
The condition tab was left blank. NOTE: On the attribute tab I selected the option "Issue Error Warning If No Value Found).
I entered no rule values (F9) within the rule (for example such as commitment item XXXXXXX = fund YYYYY) and saved.
After creating this derivation rule, I get the same error message because there were no values in the derivation rule (the source commitment item used was not found in the rule).
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GR/IR - Commitment item derivation

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In our case (ECC 6) the GL acct number and CI number are always the same. However, when i look at a couple documents that have GR/IR posting, the GL account and commitment item are different. I cannot see any possible derivation rule that can possibly cause this. I did see other discussions in this forum about a 'fmderive-bypass' for GR / IR transactions. Can someone explain in more detail what this is and if it is relevant in my scenario? Secondly if if GR/IR GL account 123 derives commiitment item 456 (instead of CI 123), then wher exactly is this set? what setting do i need to look into to find out where and why this is happening?
Thank you,

Hi ,
As per the issue that you are facing , you have defined the same commitment item for same GL A/c .
The possible reasons for the same are the derivation rules that you have defined in FMDERIVER .
Kindly check the derivation strategy that you have defined - FMDERIVE .
Secondly check the relevant GL A/c what is the commitment item that you have enterd there .
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for activating the trace do the following : go to FMDERIVE - double click the relevant derivation strategy - click on the test button and in the bottom u will see an option for trace activate that and you will find that a green signal is populate at the right end corner .
do take care to check the transaction from the same user ID where in you have activated the trace .
Cheers ,
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