FM Derivation form cost center to fund center

Hi,
I have defined in FM DERIVE cost center = fund center. In pm order cost center is derived from the work center. But the fund center is not coming there, which is defined in FMDERIVE for this cost center .
Please help to resolve the issue.
Thanks

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dear all,
during invoice postings with wbs element account assignment system do not derive assigned cost center from wbs element master data.
how can the system derive the cost center automatically??
Is there any BADI available to this issue.
regards
saqib

Dear,
WBS is Real and cost center in the master data is for statistical postings i.e. responsible cost center in WBS.
How to make substitution (OKC9) deriving the cost center in document line items / invoice posting etc.
Kindly give detail process for its configuration steps and is there any BADI available which can be useful in this regards?
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The function area was input in the cost center master data. Cost center A ( Function area 1000), Cost center B (Function area 2000)
Then creat a PO with Account Assignment Category(K), Item Category (B), input the cost center A in the PO.
When I do MIRO, I change the cost center (A TO B), but the function is still 1000, not change to 2000. But if I delete the Function area in MIRO first, then change the cost center, the function area update to 2000.
There is no default function area in GL account and cost element, also no substitution.
Is it standard in SAP? I want the Function area can be updated with the cost center. Any method?

Here is what SAP help says about this.
Functional area field for postings - ready for input?
You can enter the functional area directly when entering G/L account postings, provided the "Functional area" field is shown in the field status group of the G/L account.
SAP recommends that you do not show the "Functional area" field in the field status group of the G/L account, but rather that you have the system determine the functional area of the account assignment. This eliminates the risk of the user entering incorrect functional areas.
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can anybody share the process to derive fund center based on cost center assigned to functional location/equipment of a plant maintenance order
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Hi Eli,
Thanks for your response.
Scenario is as follows:
Cost is booked to PM order & settles to cost centers. I don't have budget at PM order level. But will have budget in fund management for cost center. So whenever I book cost to PM order it should check budget available in fund center. Fund center should be derived from cost center assigned to functional location of PM Order
I have not used function module before for derivation. I have created a derivation rule based on functional module but there is no place to assign fund center in derivation rule. Please explain the process to derived fund center through PM order in above scenario.
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i post a GR (Return item) and i have a difference of price, i want to assign this difference (assined to a Gl Account) to a Cost center please how to do that ? i have a Funds Center entered in this GR, can i derive the cost center from this Funds Center ?
Please Help.
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Hi,
There is no 'derivation' funcitionality as such available. Thoough, you can build a CO substitution via OKC9 and, based on your fund centre, set the cost centre value.
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I have just configured CCA and PCA for one of our new company code.
I have created 3 cost centers like A, B, C and subsequently same have been created as profit centers too.
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No other derivation rules has been configured so far.
Now i am trying to do a expense posting with F-02, after entering cost center, system is updating profit center field with a dummy profit center only.
Even i f a changed the dummy to normal profit center, again system replacing the normal PC with dummy PC.
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Hi Chintan,
Thanks for your quick response.
We have already implemented the said SAP note.
Let me explain my requirement again.
We have IOA, CCA, PCA active in our system.
For every expense or revenue line item Internal order is mandatory.
apart from we have 3 cost centers and 3 profit centers ( 1:1 )
in cost center master , profit center is assigned.
1) users are going to decide the cost center, while posting FI direct entries only. So while doing F-02, they will enter CC, and IO manually and at the same time PC should derive from cost center master data ( as it is 1:1 only).
2) as specified above, we have IOA, CCA, PCA active. In this case IO, CC, PC are to be set as mandatory fields for Field Status Groups G004 and G029?
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OKB9 does not work to derive a Profit Center from Document splitting

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I am trying receive customer payment with payment difference. Original invoice has two Profit centers so Customer line items have these 2 PCs derived by Doc splitting. I have defined Document splitting characteristic as Profit Center in General Ledger and In Controlling as Cost center. While posting Customer payment with payment difference , It gives me error that CO object does not exist. I have done OKB9 assignement to the above 2 profit centers but it still does not derive a Cost center.
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I have done OBXL and then OKB9. In OKB9 you have feature as "Mandatory fields for detailed account assignments.Field for specifying detailed account assignments." Here you can define for a Cost element/by Profit center assignment and then to a Cost Center. This works when you have a Cost element/Profit Center combination. But the situation above it does not read the PC derived in Customer line item.
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As per standard SAP documentation, when both cost center and WBS elements are present in the same accounting document, WBS element will take real posting and cost center will take statistical posting.
But in the MIRO document cost center took the real posting even the WBS element is present in the line item of the accounting document.
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Partha Pratim Bhar

Hi
If the WBS element is not statistical, then the real posting should be to the WBS element. However, if you see, when the WBS element becomes a statistical,(when the check mark is added in the control tab) the field cost center becomes active and needs to be input.
In your case since you are deriving the cost center through a substitution rule. Normally if you rules of priority during a document posting, the substitution and validation rules takes a higher priority. So apparently the cost center will get the real posting!! Since the real posting is already made to the cost center, the entry to the WBS element would become a statistical one...
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Hi,
Cost center & Profit Center are organizational units within the enterprise structure , created for better internal control.
As the name suggests Cost Center is the lowest level of the organizational unit representing a defined location of cost incurrence or otherwise to which you can meaningfully assign the cost(both direct & Indirect).
Profit Center is an organizational unit in accounting ,where management would require to see the profitability & fix the responsibility. It may be each plant/division of the company .
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Where as Segments are used for legal reporting of your accounting standard as per IFRS. Both Business Area & Segments are more or less same with some technical difference.
Business area is a free organizational unit. It can be derived through cost center or can be entered manually.
But segment is a dependent organizational unit. It is defined & attached inside the profit center master data. It can’t be entered manually.
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Hi and thanks for the reply.
We will test with an ALE replicated structure so that the object ID becomes the same in the two systems as soon as possible.
Pending that we will try the BADI option. Here I am however not sure what it is we really expect the BADI to do. Which field should be populated with the cost center (the fields available are mainly project characteristics)?
I also eventually found some information regarding this in the PPM 4.0 help. I enclose info regarding this below.
a) http://help.sap.com/saphelp_ppm400/helpdata/en/index.htm
b) choose Collaboration projects>Accounting Integration>General Information about Accounting integration>Derivation of Organizational data.
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1) Look for the two BADIs mentioned to derive the cost center
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3) If no result there the system looks for a "requesting cost center" in the account assignment object (WBS element or internal order)
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dear experts
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No profit center posting when posting to GL (only cost center documents)

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Derivation of Funds Center from cost center for Asset PR/PO in FM

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We configured new FM area and relevant BCS settings. It is working fine except PR or PO for Account assignment category A.
Issue: system is not able derive funds center from cost center in the asset master. cost center is not updated in EBKN table for Asset PR.
we have maintained the following;
1. Funds center is activated in Asset account assignments
2. Maintained derivation rule with function module: FMDT_READ_MD_ASSET
3. Derivation rule for cost center to funds center also maintained
If maintain funds center manually in PR it is working fine and consuming budget also.
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